FW: Gestation Period

[bulmonte21]

Dear Manuela,

I have done a lot of outcome research but this question is new to me. 
Usually you look on durability of changes or "transference of changes 
into real life" rather than on "gestation" period. Nevertheless I 
remember that approaches which do not use a "complete" processing after 
sessions, like for example drama therapy or playback, do claim a process 
of "self organization" of changes due to the impact of the emotinal 
experience on the person rejecting a "rationale" working through of it. 
I ignore if you do a processing in souldrama. If not it could be one of 
the possible explainations for that fenomena even when it is hard to 
proof on scientific grounds as an undisputed attribution to the session 
itself. Now even assuming that this kind of non-processed emotoional 
impact need some time of gestation for leading to a change it could not 
explain a clear time relationship between sessions and changes with a 
"mude gap" (like 3 or 4 month). Structural brain changes do usually 
occur according to the ratio of the "emotional dosis" and the exposition 
time of experiences (e.g. in trauma) - like a colleague already stated 
for Pesso`s work - and in very close time relationship to the experience 
itself. Still it could be fascinating to develop here a kind of 
"different" model for changes (maybe in connection with a sequence of 
repited and intermittent new experiences due to a "break through" of the 
older "coping system" also after the session itself. Still the question 
of the time-effect ratio would remain unclear to me.)

I share mostly experiences like Anne told with immediate recovery in the 
same session or in the next 24 hours (e.g. in Brazil we had a woman in 
our workshop which had a severe sleep disorder for more than 30 years; 
after staging and re-scribing her terrifying birth scene during world 
war II she could sleep in the following night for the first time without 
problems). For me it is another very vital question how can we 
contribute to uphold and maintain the change because not every change is 
stable.

All the best, warm greetings

Jorge




Manuela Maciel schrieb:
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *De:* Manuela Maciel [mailto:manuelamaciel at mail.telepac.pt]
> *Enviada:* sábado, 9 de Dezembro de 2006 15:13
> *Assunto:* FW: Gestation Period
>
> Dear Psychodrama Colleagues
>
> Does anyone know about “gestation period” studies /research for the 
> full impact/effectiveness of a psychodrama session?
>
> Please let me know.
>
> My impression is that it changes the length of time that it takes to 
> really have an impact on a person`s life.
>
> But my amazing bexperience with the last Souldrama workshop in May 
> (with more than 30 people) is that people (many of them my patients in 
> group therapy) started to report real change after September (around 
> 90 days after). Does this make any sense to anyone?
>
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> Maybe Michael Wieser (Research Coordinator in FEPTO and IAGP 
> Psychodrama Section) may inform us if there was any specific research 
> on this topic?
>
> Manuela Maciel
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *De:* Mark [mailto:mark at colourforlife.com]
> *Enviada:* quarta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2006 11:45
> *Para:* Manuela Maciel
> *Assunto:* Gestation Period
>
> Hi Manuela,
>
> I'm checking out information on how long it takes for changes to be 
> noticed in people's lives, ie families, relationships etc.. after they 
> have done Dynamic Theare.
>
> In Family Constealltions they have this suggestion that it's around 90 
> days for changes to be fully noticed, example is a lady I know did 
> constellation work on her son who she put up for adoption when he was 
> 4 months old - 90 days after she did the work he 'found' her for the 
> first time. Wondering what the time frame is on psychodrama? Is there 
> anything written that I could read?
>
> Did a fantastic DT session yesterday with a lady which involved a 
> shadow life, spirits and divided masculine/feminine - am in the 
> process of writing it up as a case study, have asked people who did 
> the course to start keeping notes on sessions so we collect information..
>
> Speak soon
>
> Mark xx
>
> The journey through the rainbow is worth its weight in gold
>
> WWW.COLOURFORLIFE.COM <http://www.COLOURFORLIFE.COM>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Grouptalk mailing list
> List at grouptalkweb.org
> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>