Gestation Period
gong at artsci.wustl.edu
gong at artsci.wustl.edu
Mon Dec 11 01:31:20 CST 2006
I had similar results in clients I worked with combining psychodrama with
Chinese energy medicine. Clients have done journal records. They have not
only changed physically but in their social inter action. One of the client
is in the field of medicine.
Shu
> Dear Adam and Manuela--In regards to the "gestation
> period" question. Pesso reported last year that not
> only changes in social and emotional behavior took
> place almost immediately following a psychomotor
> therapy session, but measurable changes in the brain,
> per PET scans, took place after only two psychomotor
> sessions. I had an amazing experience last December
> in work with him, that resulted in me moving to
> Washington state and starting a new training program
> there, also after one psychomotor structure. This is
> why I continue to be fascinated with the combination
> of psychodrama and psychomotor therapy, and the
> potential of the combined approaches in helping people
> heal from trauma, as well as make new and simple
> everyday life decisions and changes. Happy holidays
> to all! Georgia Rigg
> --- Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Manuela,
> > I've not encountered any research in any type
> > of psychotherapy, much less psychodrama, that
> > addresses this rather intriguing question you bring
> > up.
> > The problem with gestation is to piece out
> > what impacts any elements of the therapeutic process
> > may have had from the ongoing process of development
> > in life.
> > Sometimes, though, as you suggest, people do
> > report a dramatic or at least noticeable change--
> > but this is anecdotal. It would be interesting to
> > hear what folks say about that, in their experience.
> > I suspect many directors have some stories about how
> > clients have reported significant shifts after a
> > moving session.
> >
> > Trying to do research on therapy itself is
> > most tricky, because the problem is that people
> > often react to other circumstances, change due to a
> > mixture of variables, in or outside of therapy.
> > Example: Recent research on back surgery
> > shows that there is little difference after 6 months
> > in outcome between those who have had surgery (which
> > does show statistical improvement in symptoms in the
> > first 2 months) and those who just do physical
> > therapy, exercise, etc. So it is well known that
> > people tend to heal. This is often true in
> > psychotherapy, also, that many symptom complexes
> > resolve or lighten in time even without therapy.
> > There are also the many variables of
> > group therapy noted by Yalom, so it might not be the
> > procedure itself which was the change agent, but the
> > mixture of the group, hopefulness, expectation, rise
> > in morale, group sharing, etc.
> >
> > I'll be interested in what comes from
> > others.
> >
> > In addition, on a slightly different level,
> > I'm so happy to see a bridge-building between the
> > communities in Europe and the communities in the USA
> > in psychodrama because of your work with Connie
> > Miller. Thank you for that, too!
> >
> > Warmly, Adam
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Manuela Maciel
> > To: List at grouptalkweb.org
> > Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:21 AM
> > Subject: FW: Gestation Period
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> > De: Manuela Maciel
> > [mailto:manuelamaciel at mail.telepac.pt]
> > Enviada: sábado, 9 de Dezembro de 2006 15:13
> > Assunto: FW: Gestation Period
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Psychodrama Colleagues
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know about "gestation period" studies
> > /research for the full impact/effectiveness of a
> > psychodrama session?
> >
> > Please let me know.
> >
> > My impression is that it changes the length of
> > time that it takes to really have an impact on a
> > person`s life.
> >
> > But my amazing bexperience with the last Souldrama
> > workshop in May (with more than 30 people) is that
> > people (many of them my patients in group therapy)
> > started to report real change after September
> > (around 90 days after). Does this make any sense to
> > anyone?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your comments.
> >
> > Maybe Michael Wieser (Research Coordinator in
> > FEPTO and IAGP Psychodrama Section) may inform us if
> > there was any specific research on this topic?
> >
> >
> >
> > Manuela Maciel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > De: Mark [mailto:mark at colourforlife.com]
> > Enviada: quarta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2006 11:45
> > Para: Manuela Maciel
> > Assunto: Gestation Period
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Manuela,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm checking out information on how long it takes
> > for changes to be noticed in people's lives, ie
> > families, relationships etc.. after they have done
> > Dynamic Theare.
> >
> >
> >
> > In Family Constealltions they have this suggestion
> > that it's around 90 days for changes to be fully
> > noticed, example is a lady I know did constellation
> > work on her son who she put up for adoption when he
> > was 4 months old - 90 days after she did the work he
> > 'found' her for the first time. Wondering what the
> > time frame is on psychodrama? Is there anything
> > written that I could read?
> >
> >
> >
> > Did a fantastic DT session yesterday with a lady
> > which involved a shadow life, spirits and divided
> > masculine/feminine - am in the process of writing it
> > up as a case study, have asked people who did the
> > course to start keeping notes on sessions so we
> > collect information..
> >
> > Speak soon
> >
> > Mark xx
> >
> >
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> >
> > The
> > journey through the rainbow is worth its weight in
> > gold
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > WWW.COLOURFORLIFE.COM
> >
> >
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