citation

[thana ag]

Dear Elaine,

Sorry it took me so long to send this off to you.

While I  am unaware of protocols re resolution of quilt,nor do I adhere to 
any protocols  in my application of psychodrama ,yet I became aware that  I 
do have a tendency to deal with similar situations in the  following 
sequence:

   1. PROLOGUE: A brief interview re  presenting problem : P is  feeling 
guilty about Mothers death ,b/c of the argument  they had  the day before M 
died of of brain aneuyrism. P was 12 at the time.

2. scene 1:  The  argument between mother and daughter

3. Scene 2:  Surplus Reality

   Director: Lets undo the scene: You can change the scene any way you 
want/What would you     like to have happenned instead? You can do anything 
you want..
Dir  sets the scene with utmost  atention to every detail  so as to make the 
experience as vivid as possible , anchoring the experience  in every  
possible sensory modality ( NLP) . P  plays first herself as 12 year 
old,then as her mother ,then she  steps out and watches the scene as herself 
(current age). encouraged to step in if need be.

Dir:Are we ready to exit?
     If yes: end of scene
     If not: Need  to find out what else is needed to bring the scene  to 
completion.

At this point the Q will come up: since we undid the scene does the Mother 
have to die?

  From here the PD could brench off  into many healing and diagnostically  
important  directions,but because of time constraints and the contract  we 
established to address  quilt:
    Dir - let's ask your Mother.

    Scene3: The  Interview
Director  interviews  Mother (played by P), gets the medical history and  
both  establish that there is  no possible causative connection between the  
argument and the death of  brain aneuyrism
Dir : Lets make it clear to your daughter. Ok?

   Scene4:  The  Encounter
Mother (played by P)  explains to the  12 year old self. that her  death had 
nothing to do with the argument,  she would've died regardless,plus her  not 
taking good care of herself contributed to her untimely death,for which she 
is sorry and hopes to be forgiven.   Role reversal ,so P has a chance to 
hear it as a 12 year old. Dir  may want P to step out of scene and watch  
the encounter,encouraged to step in  if need be.
SHARING
SHARING CAN TAKE PLACE HERE ,BUT IF TIME PERMITS THE FOLLOWING WOULD BE 
HIGHLY DESIRABLE:

Dir:Are you sure the 12 year old understood that her  mother's death had 
nothing  whatsoever to do to do with the fight they had? If hesitation is 
detected:

                    Scene 5: Encounter bet P and 12 year old self:

P repeats the explanation,absolving 12 year old self of all quilt . RR -to 
make sure she can hear it again as a 12 year old again.( Please note: it is 
self ridding self of faulty beliefs  cognitive psychodrama*)

If no hesitation detected: Dir: Is there anything you'd  like to ask  or 
anything  you'd  would like to tell your 12 year old self?   Yes:
                    Scene 5: Encounter bet P and 12 year old self
  NO: .
                                SHARING
                        ------------------------------

*Cognitive  Psychodrama:  A Presentation at ASGP Meeting,San Fran 2006, 
anath garber

elaine sachnoff [mailto:esachnoff at sbcglobal.net]
>Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 01:04 PM
>To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>Subject: citation
>
>I am looking for an article that spells out the
>sequence of scenes in a psychodrama for dealing with
>guilt.
>situation
>the Protagonist had an argument with her mother and
>yelled at her. the mother yelled back and the next
>day while the P was at school the mother sufferered an
>brain aneuyrism and died.
>the P was 12 when this happened and is now 27 and
>still feels guilt.
>The drama was as follows:
>the P chose an auxilliary to be mother.
>role reversal-speaking as the M [with some interview
>questions from director]
>the P said she was in heaven looking down on her child
>and not happy that daughter felt guilt.
>continuing as M talked about a long standing medical
>condition with headaches, many md visits some with
>child accompanying her. M continued to drink and drug
>and eat prohibited foods. Very insistant on daughter
>not feeling guilty.
>forgiving herself.
>RR P hears auxilliary as mother repeat most of this.
>
>P chooses auxil to be self at 12 yrs old. who comes
>up and joins them
>P watches and listens as M tells 12 year old same
>things.
>P is encouraged herself to tell 12 year old she does
>not need to feel guilty any more.
>RR P with 12 year old self who repeats messages
>P hears as 12 year old from adult self and Mother
>RR return to adult self and release child from guilt.
>forgives self
>final hug all 3 and
>sharing.
>This is the way I have always done this-especially
>with incest victims/survivors, believing that the P
>must experience the forgiveness as a child and not
>just as an adult that s/he needs to forgive
>herself/himself.
>I know that TSM does a more involved and lengthly
>process for this, but since I work alone and rarely
>have more than 1 hour to work within-this is the
>framework I use. I have become extremely directive at
>times-telling A what to say by doubling statements .
>There is probably something written on this and my
>students have asked for an article they can read on
>this.
>I would appreciate any citations you all can come up
>with
>thanks
>
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