Carole Oliver is dreaming of a different world and differentpsychodrama than reality[ List Digest, Vol 1, Issue 15

[carole oliver]

if i give up having visions, then i just give up

it is our responsibilty as psychodramatists to work thru and resolve issues in our organization

however, i value all your feedback....
Thank You
Carole Oliver
973-744-0693
www.caroleoliver.net
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anne Schutzenberger perso 
  To: Grouptalk Tom TREADWELL(2006) 
  Cc: Anne Schutzenberger perso 
  Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:05 PM
  Subject: Re: Carole Oliver is dreaming of a different world and differentpsychodrama than reality[ List Digest, Vol 1, Issue 15


  Carole , dear sweet Carole Oliver

  how naive and sweet of you not to have noticed that time is changing and that wonderful people, devoted to their ideas and work are rare- and that past ASGPP Preisident was exceptionnal and the new one different, and that Tom is exceptionnal and that nobody says thank-you to him (Tom) as much as he deserves


  `--;I do not think that you could change ASGPP for a different one in 2006 = cards are done and the hand is poor 
  and very different from past years and many, many old timers feel bad and sad and hurt about what is happeniong 
  (I am 87, an old timer, since the fifties in group-psychotherapy, psychodrama TEP, international associations etc, and I could cry to see what is happening )- 
  but it is not a question of talking, but of persons and their interrests or lack of interrests - 
  -so, noting doing, but cry over spiled milk(or how do you say in America
  (I write from Europe, but I was trained in usa  in the fifties ) 
  and thanked and honoured by ASGPP many times, and by IAGP(I am one of the co-founders)
  `but times are different and they are throwing out ouor life w<irk without evebn realizing the harm theu do to the field(but they see things differently, foillowing a shorter and different training  
  and different perspectives, or lack of perspectives for the long run
  anne
  anne ancelin schutzenberger, PhD;TEP
  Professeur des Universites(University Professor of clinical and social psychology)
  co-founder of IAGP and its actual honorarty archivist 




  Tout de bon – Best of best

  Anne   (Argentière-Chamonix Mont-Blanc) (French Alps)

  ----------------------------------------------------

  Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger, PhD, TEP

  Anne.Schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr

  anne.schutzenberger at worldonline.fr

  http://perso.wanadoo.fr/a.ancelin.schutzenberger/





  Le 10 juil. 06 à 19:00, list-request at grouptalkweb.org a écrit :


    Carole Oliver

  === from Carole Olivier = 

  question?
  with all our expertise as clinicians, can we help to iron out the 
  differences with asgpp and group talk?
  I know you are extremely hurt and frustrated and I don't blame you.


  I think we as psychodraamtists can work hard on the sociometry and come to a 
  resolution for you and for us.


  what do others think of this idea?
  Thank You
  Carole Oliver
  973-744-0693
  www.caroleoliver.net
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: <grouptal at earth.s3servers.com>
  To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
  Cc: <ttreadwe at tomtreadwell.com>; <ttreadwe at mail.med.upenn.edu>
  Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:44 AM
  Subject: Grouptalk Status - Alive and Running on a new server


  To list members:


  Group talk went down one week ago as a result of the ASGPP changing webmasters.  ASGPP does not support Group talk financially 
  & does not plan to do so in the near future.  T


  As a result, I decided to keep Group talk running and have purchased
  server space to keep it alive.  I think the need for Group talk is
  essential and the major reason to keep communication alive among the group
  creative art therapists.


  We have about 260 subscribers and I would like you to help me support
  group talk financially.  I will develop a web page for group talk and
  house Jim Sack.s Bibliography at the site.  
  I can also add many more options to the 
  group talk web page as you might like to see.


  To financially support group talk . if we received one dollar from all
  subscribers that would keep us running for two years.  
  So I am asking for a small donation simply to keep the 
  communication channel open.
  I will take care of the web page and monitoring group talk . 
  something I have been doing for over 10 years.


  Send checks to me
  Tom Treadwell
  5216 Arrowhead Lane
  Drexel Hill, PA 19026
  I Ban ?????


  All financial support is very very much appreciated.
  To send email to grouptalk the address is as follows
  list at grouptalkweb.org


  Tom...thanks in advance..
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