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Isabel Malone imalone at nphs.com
Wed Jul 12 18:06:47 CDT 2006


Cathy:

A good idea.

        IZI Malone
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> Hello, everyone - This is Cathy Nugent, a psychodramatist in Maryland.  I
> have been silent on the listserv, but have enjoyed the stimulating
> interchanges.  I wanted to comment on the issues raised by the Alaska
> Supreme Court decision and Adam's commentary.  One promising innovation in
> the psychiatric field has been the use of "advance directives."  In the
> mental health arena, these are similar to advance directives that people
> develop in relation to serious illness and use of extraordinary measures
to
> sustain life (i.e., people sign directives indicating whether or not they
> wish to be resusitated, etc.)..... In psychiatry, clients who are at risk
> of decompensating and becoming mentally incapacitated, have the
opportunity
> when they are in a clear state to develop a plan for how they would like
> family, friends, significant others, and mental health professionals to
> intervene if they have a relapse and become psychotic or otherwise
> disabled.  The client may indicate in the advance directive that he or she
> wishes to be given medication, or that other interventions be tried before
> medication, or that other steps be taken.  Some mental health hopsitals
and
> systems are using advance directives with success, and consumer groups
seem
> to favor the idea since it promotes client integrity and autonomy.....
>
> I hope everyone is well and in good spirits.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Cathy
>
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>    1. new article (Adam Blatner)
>    2. involuntary psychiatry (Adam Blatner)
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> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> Subject: new article
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> Hi, for anyone who may be interested, I just had published a new article:
>     -- Blatner, A. (2006). Enacting the new academy: sociodrama as a
> powerful tool in higher education. ReVision: A Journal of Consciousness &
> Transformation, 28 (3), 30 - 35.
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>      I'm working on some other things, probably due in Fall.
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> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> Subject: involuntary psychiatry
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> This article speaks to an interesting and quite complex problem, a problem
> of social
> policy. As the only MD psychiatrist who is also a psychodramatist in the
> USA, I have mixed
> reactions.
>      On one hand, I'm somewhat inclined to support such challenges. I
agree
> with about a
> third to a half of the arguments of Thomas Szasz, the libertarian
> psychiatrist. I fear
> that there is a tendency to support the convenience of the administration
> in any large
> organization or institution, whether it be a hospital, religious
> denomination, political
> structure, ASGPP, ANZPA, whatever. There are almost always reformers
within
> most large
> organizations, and this tension keeps things cooking.
>       The problem often deals with the folks who are at the edge of
> breaking the law in
> several ways: Those who are chronically homeless and create for those
> around them, not
> only themselves, a hygiene hazard, smells, excretion in public, etc.
>       Others are clearly suicidal and we must come to a public policy
> decision as to what
> we collectively must do.
>
>      Others are a drain on their family for the aforementioned reasons,
and
> the family
> members are seeking some relief--these stories can be quite heart-rending.
> The number of
> free-spirited folks who don't hurt anyone is rather limited. The problem
> often involves
> types of harm that are in a fuzzy area of not quite criminal.
>
>        The dual-diagnosis problems of illness compounded by drug taking
has
> all become
> worse with the growing epidemic of methamphetamine addiction.
>
>          And so forth...
>
>         I'm concerned because although I am wary about tendencies within
> psychiatry to
> over-medicate, there is an equal if not greater tendency in our culture
> towards a rather
> global anti-psychiatry stance. The best policy requires the spirit of
> spontaneity,
> responding in the moment to the needs of the situation, unhampered by the
> cultural
> conserves of overgeneralizations, abstractions, artificial categories.
>          I expect to see some further news about this and will be open to
> questions.
> Warmly, Adam
>
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> Subject: Alaskan Supreme Court recent ruling
>
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> > Hello from Alaska.  I love this group talk...It helps me feel connected
> up here in the
> > NOrth.  This is an article about a recent ruling here...
> >
> > *FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> >
> > June 30, 2006
> >
> > *
> > ****FREEDOMS FOR ALL,
> >                 IN TIME FOR THE 4th???***
> >
> > Alaska Supreme Court Strikes Down Forced Psychiatric Drugging Procedures
> >
> > *
> > In a resounding affirmation of personal liberty and freedom, the Alaska
> > Supreme Court issued its long-awaited decision in /Myers v. Alaska
> > Psychiatric Institute/ today.  The court found Alaska's forced
> > psychiatric drugging regime to be unconstitutional when the state forces
> > someone to take psychiatric medications without proving it to be in
> > their best interests or when there are less restrictive alternatives.
> >
> > Faith Myers, the appellant in the case, reacted to the decision saying,
> > "It makes all of my suffering worthwhile."
> >
> > Myers' attorney, Jim Gottstein, said "By requiring the least intrusive
> > alternative to forced psychiatric drugging, this decision has the
> > potential to change the face of current psychiatric practice,
> > dramatically improving the lives of  people who now find themselves at
> > the wrong end of a hypodermic needle.??o   While he acknowledged that
some
> > people find psychiatric drugs helpful, Gottstein said he pursued this
> > case because, in addition to the drugs' serious physical health risks,
> > he is concerned about the rights of those who find them both unhelpful
> > and intolerable.  He continued,   ??oFor people who want to try non-drug
> > approaches, the research is very clear that many will have much better
> > long-term outcomes, including complete recovery after being diagnosed
> > with serious mental illness.  This decision restores the rights of
> > those people to pursue that potential."
> >
> > The Alaska Supreme Court decision noted the trial court's concern that
> > the statute did not allow the court to consider the problems with the
> > drugs even though "a valid debate exists in the medically/psychiatric
> > community as to the safety and effectiveness of the proposed treatment
> > plan."  With this decision, trial courts are now required to consider
> > the safety and effectiveness of the drugs in deciding whether the
> > proposed psychiatric drugging is in the patient's best interest.
> >
> > The Court's Decision also makes specific mention that Alaska Statutes
> > require the hospital to honor a patient's previously expressed desires
> > regarding psychiatric medications.
> >
> > The full decision can be found on the Internet at
> > http://psychrights.org/States/Alaska/CaseOne/MyersOpinion.pdf.
> >
> > Detailed background about The Law Project for Psychiatric Rights, a
> > non-profit organization, is available on the PsychRights web site:
> > http://psychrights.org/.
> >
> > #   #   #
> >
> > CONTACT:
> > Jim Gottstein
> > 907 274-7686
> > jim at psychrights.org <mailto:jim at psychrights.org>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > James B. (Jim) Gottstein, Esq.
> >
> > Law Project for Psychiatric Rights
> > 406 G Street, Suite 206
> > Anchorage, Alaska  99501
> > Phone: (907) 274-7686)  Fax: (907) 274-9493
> > jim at psychrights.org
> > http://psychrights.org/
> >
> > * * *Psych Rights* ??
> > *             Law Project for
> >        Psychiatric Rights
> >
> > *The Law Project for Psychiatric Rights is a public interest law firm
> > devoted to the defense of people facing the horrors of unwarranted
> > forced psychiatric drugging.  We are further dedicated to exposing the
> > truth about these drugs and the courts being misled into ordering people
> > to be drugged and subjected to other brain and body damaging
> > interventions against their will.  Extensive information about this is
> > available on our web site, http://psychrights.org/. Please donate
> > generously.  Our work is fueled with your IRS 501(c) tax deductible
> > donations.  Thank you for your ongoing help and support.
> >
> >
> >
>
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