Ambition

[thana ag]

Grace,Kia,Peter,or Adam,
Putting  my 3cents into your lively exchange about ambition; ambition, 
carries often that pesky  connotation  of ruthlessness, a possibilty of   
exclusion of caring for others or senstivity to the nuanses  of  of 
situation etc.
I tend to experience "ambition" as a blessed state of non ambivalence, a 
direction to my efforts, a fuel for my "wishbone",  that which helps 
mterialize what i think of...I am well aware of the danger of being blind to 
others,other possibilities etc at the same time. Being  ambitious  while  
open to all and everyone - now that  would be a state worth aspiring to. For 
me: ultimate spontaneity.
If wishes were horses beggars would ride...If beggars had ambtition....
Anath Garber, nyc


>From: "Grace" <2grace at actrix.co.nz>
>Reply-To: grace at graceworks.co.nz, list at grouptalkweb.org
>To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>Subject: RE: Ambition
>Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:49:32 +1200
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>Kia ora Peter,
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>I too have thought long and hard on ambition.  Here are some thought from
>me:
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>When I worked fully in the community and education sectors I always
>considered I had little ambition, and I took this as a given about myself.
>Having taken the plunge into creating a lifestyle for myself that centres 
>on
>promoting psychodrama and Morenian processes in ALL I do, I find that my
>ambition to make it work is what gets me up and going in the morning!  It 
>is
>also what sustains me when my flaws and foibles get away on me and I don't
>manage to create what I am seeking (i.e. I fail).  It also assists greatly
>assisting me to identify the criteria for making choices, whether it be who
>I associate with, how I construct my support networks, what work I do etc.
>Yay for ambition I say!
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>I have found that the tendency for psychodrama to be practiced mainly as a
>therapeutic and community-based method here in Aotearoa New Zealand (and
>probably Australia) has had a significant influence on a range of factors
>influencing in promotion of the method.  This includes, I would suggest 
>with
>a little trepidation, a somewhat conserved response to what 'forms' of
>ambition are 'acceptable' and what do not 'go' with their notion of the
>'spirit of psychodrama'.   I have observed people from other sectors come
>into the community and initially become very excited about the potential
>application of the method for their own work.  However it seems they tend 
>to
>go again after a relatively short period of time satisfied that they have
>gained personally but discouraged and sometimes disillusioned that there is
>any application in a wider context.
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> >From my own experience my observation is that ambition is an expression 
>of
>spontaneity, not sparked by comfort (a little like spontaneity), nor
>nurtured by isolation (ditto).  I have watched my ambition grow as I get
>closer to being able to live spontaneously in all aspects of my life.  My
>understanding of Moreno's method and his notion of sociatry, is that it is
>'inclusive' of all that exists as human endeavour, and when I read his 
>work,
>such as Who shall Survive? and the Words of the Father, I feel encouraged
>that Moreno saw his method applied widely for the benefit of humankind
>whatever the context.  I find this very exciting!
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>I'm not sure if this is the sort of thing you were asking about, but here
>you go anyway.
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>Cheers
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>Grace
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>From: list-bounces at grouptalkweb.org [mailto:list-bounces at grouptalkweb.org]
>On Behalf Of Peter Howie
>Sent: Friday, 21 July 2006 11:47 a.m.
>To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>Subject: Ambition
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>Hi all,
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>I've been thinking recently about what keeps me going at times, what keeps
>others going and thing of this nature. Watching Frank Lowy in a 
>documentary,
>a multi-billionaire Aussie with 180 mega-shopping complexes around the
>world, who funded the turn-around of Australian soccer/football and helped
>get us to international status, when asked what kept him going he said he
>was still full of ambition.
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>I'm imagining that J L Moreno was also full of ambition, ambition to do 
>many
>things, one of which was to promote and teach his remarkable method and to
>try and set up systems to support its ongoing practice, teaching,
>methodological review and improvement and philosophical development.
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>I'm thinking on this and wondering about my own level of ambition.
>Psychodramatists with ambition that I know of would be Kate with the Spiral
>model work, Marcia Karp, Max Clayton - and there would be heaps of others. 
>I
>am not thinking about abilities or skills as a trainer, educator or
>practitioner. More about their ambition to relentlessly push forward in
>creating a world that they would like to live in, surrounded by colleagues
>who support and challenge them and keeping going despite their own human
>flaws and foibles.
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>Anyway - this rises for me as I contemplate doing things a bit differently
>around here with how I spend my time promoting psychodrama and Morenian
>processes. How much do I have. Ho much do those around me support or
>parallel me. Things like this.
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>So how does this idea of ambition sit with some of you?
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>Cheers for now
>
>Peter Howie
>Brisbane, Australia
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