Adam, you started this:could we have their names &email, Please:defending psychodrama

Anne Schutzenberger perso anne.schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr
Sun Jul 30 20:03:24 CDT 2006 

deaqr Manuela,
we do NOT  need a consensus,
we need their name and eMail address,
and write separately to them
it seems that you found a "Current Psychotherapies"
on internet, thus you can give me/us
  the name and eMail of the publisher ,
please
thaks,
and old timer having seen many things
and having various ways to react,
but after we get the name, and eMail first of things

anne, 87 years old and in psychodrama and grouppsychotherapy since 1951
University Professor and co-founder of IAGP
Tout de bon – Best of best
Anne   (Argentière-Chamonix Mont-Blanc) (French Alps)
----------------------------------------------------
Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger, PhD, TEP
Anne.Schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr
anne.schutzenberger at worldonline.fr
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/a.ancelin.schutzenberger/


Le 30 juil. 06 à 13:13, Manuela Maciel a écrit :

> Dear Anne, Adam, Jorge and all
>
> I do believe that it is important to gbe proactive in this  
> situation and do something fast about it. It doesn`t make sense  
> that we let "psychodrama" fall out of the current Psychotherapies  
> handbook in the USA. What can we do then? Can we find a consensus?  
> I want to cooperate!
> Warmly
> Manuela Maciel
>
>
> Anne Schutzenberger perso wrote:
>
>> Re:Adam,you started this:could we have their names  
>> &email,Please:defending psychodrama
>>
>> You were right  to get us alarmed, as it is a bad sign to take off  
>> psychodrama from the annual USA book "Current Psychotherapies",  
>> after Corsini, others and Blatner , as some revisers suggested
>> You did your very best and what you could, as you write below, but  
>> may be others could find an other way of speaking about  
>> psychodrama and its unique usefullness, for research reasons, -  
>> research done in high sphere of universities, and research  
>> centers, and not by psychodramatists
>>
>> May be some of us could write an excellent collective letter to  
>> them, with other arguments than yours : `
>> you started this, so, please, let us follow it  and up to them ,  
>> who ever are the new successors of Current Therapies in USA  in 2007
>>
>> - You say that you did your best (thanks fir doing it )
>>
>> - May be it is the turn of completely different approach of  
>> scientific resear done here and there in the world
>> that is needed to convince these "clinical councelling  
>> councellors" (who are the'y ? please ??
>> do help to follow up  your old  good job
>>
>> warmly, anne, 87 and in group work and psychodrama since 1951
>> co)-ounder if IAGP(and International Council member before),
>> IActual IAGP honorary archivist
>> University Professor(France), group-analyst, psychodramatist TEP
>>
>> Tout de bon – Best of best
>>
>> Anne   (Argentière-Chamonix Mont-Blanc) (French Alps)(France)
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger, PhD, TEP
>>
>> Anne.Schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr  
>> <mailto:Anne.Schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr>
>>
>> anne.schutzenberger at worldonline.fr  
>> <mailto:anne.schutzenberger at worldonline.fr>
>>
>> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/a.ancelin.schutzenberger/
>>
>> ========
>>
>> Le 28 juil. 06 à 05:55, Adam Blatner a écrit :
>>
>> Dear Jorg and others,
>>   The survey was of leaders of counseling programs,
>>
>> and I question whether writing a letter to anyone will
>> help. What's needed is a far more vigorous program of
>> writing papers for journals, doing research,
>> affiliating with academic programs, presenting at conferences,  
>> again writing it up--
>> just presenting doesn't do it-- - to begin to impress colleagues  
>> in the USA that psychodrama is practical and effective.
>> So far, many of them in psychology and other fields are
>> not impressed. I have done what I can, writing papers
>> in many journals--e.g., the international journal of
>> psychotherapy has a paper by me addressing the state
>> of the art in the field, coming out in the November
>> issue this coming Fall.
>>>     By the way, I sent out a request for news and
>>> publications, and indeed have been sending out such
>>> requests for over 10 years, with very few people
>>> answering each time. It has been like "pulling teeth."
>>>  It seems as if too many people are "busy" and feel
>>> little obligation to network on the internet or
>>> respond to email.  As a result of what I take to be a
>>> casual attitude about the need to respond to emails,
>>> contribute, go out of one's way to think about how to
>>> promote the field, in certain countries its reputation
>>> among non-psychodramatists continues to slip. It is
>>> too bad, but I assure you that letters of protest to
>>> the survey committee or editors will just be seen as
>>> pathetic rather than compelling.
>>>     I'll be interested in what you all think about
>>> these ideas. Warmly, Adam Blatner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- bulmonte21 <bulmonte21 at bluewin.ch  
>>> <mailto:bulmonte21 at bluewin.ch>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Anne, Adam and colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> I am ready to contribute with determination to all
>>>> those attempts which are going to keep safe the quality, the  
>>>> scientific
>>>> base and the unique originality of the psychodramatic  
>>>> psychotherapy to
>>>> the editors of the textbook. For that purpose I suggest  to write a
>>>> letter signed by several of us (including colleagues from other
>>>> approaches) and attaching the latest survey on scientific  
>>>> research on
>>>> Psychodrama reviewed by Michael Wieser. Do you agree with that  
>>>> procedure?
>>>>
>>>> If yes Adam could you please draft one letter as I
>>>> am not english mother tongue speaker? This would be marvellous.  
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>>
>>>> Jorge Burmeister
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anne Schutzenberger perso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Help:how defend Psychodrama Status and have it
>>>>
>>>> remained in USA
>>>>> textbook(Anne-France)/List Digest, Vol 1, Issue 60
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Adam and collegues
>>>>>
>>>>> it is worrying that they are considering in USA to
>>>>
>>>> delate Psychodrama
>>>>> from "CURRENT psychotherapies" text book (see
>>>>
>>>> below) in the succesors
>>>>> of " Current Psychotherapies," edited by Ray
>>>>
>>>> Corsini & Danny Wedding.
>>>>
>>>>>  -then -2nd edition, 1973, by Leon Fine.-then by
>>>>
>>>> Adam Blatner for the
>>>>> 4th (1989 , 5th editions (1995), and for the last
>>>>
>>>> 7th ed (2005).
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, ADAM, WHO ARE THE SURVEYORS OF THE NEW Cie
>>>>
>>>> AND WHAT IS THEIR
>>>>> EMAIL -OR SOME OF THE EMAILS - I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IT
>>>>
>>>> UP WiTH THEM
>>>>> AND I THINK THAT MANY OF US, (ESPECIALLY OLDTIMERS
>>>>
>>>> AND HEADS OF
>>>>> SCHOOLS) SHOULD WRITE TO THEM AND PROTEST ABOUT
>>>>
>>>> THE DELATION
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> many of our collegues are for the moment in
>>>>
>>>> Brazil, in Sao Paulo,
>>>>> for the IAGP congress, and its psychodrama
>>>>
>>>> section, so may be they
>>>>> could help and do something,
>>>>>  now,; together, and take this up as a question during the
>>>>
>>>> psychodrama various meetings
>>>>> in Brazil t this congress
>>>>> -A psychodramatist(Jorg) just has been elected as
>>>>
>>>> President elect of
>>>>> IAGP, International Association for Group
>>>>
>>>> Psychotherapy(from July 2006 on )
>>>>>  an old timer, Anne (97 years old and in
>>>>
>>>> psychodrama and groupanalysis
>>>>> since the fifties and co-fouonder of IAGP also,
>>>>
>>>> and its honorary
>>>>> archivist(2005-2006 and actually)
>>>>>
>>>>> for the present, a little unwell and resting in
>>>>
>>>> her high mountain home
>>>>> of French Alps(France)
>>>>> Professor Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger, PhD,TEP
>>>>>
>>>>> Tout de bon – Best of best
>>>>>
>>>>> Anne   (Argentière-Chamonix Mont-Blanc) (French
>>>>
>>>> Alps)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger, PhD, TEP
>>>>>
>>>>> Professeur des Universites(France)
>>>>> Psychodramatisty, grpoupanalyst,
>>>>> Anne.Schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr  
>>>>> <mailto:Anne.Schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr>
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:Anne.Schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> anne.schutzenberger at worldonline.fr  
>>>>> <mailto:anne.schutzenberger at worldonline.fr>  
>>>>> <mailto:anne.schutzenberger at worldonline.fr>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/a.ancelin.schutzenberger/
>>>>>
>>>>> ==================
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 20 juil. 06 à 19:00,
>>>>
>>>> list-request at grouptalkweb.org <mailto:list- 
>>>> request at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>> <mailto:list-request at grouptalkweb.org> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Send List mailing list submissions to
>>>>>> list at grouptalkweb.org <mailto:list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>
>>>> <mailto:list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide
>>>>>
>>>> Web, visit
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>
>>>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or
>>>>>
>>>> body 'help' to
>>>>
>>>>>> list-request at grouptalkweb.org <mailto:list- 
>>>>>> request at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>
>>>> <mailto:list-request at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>>>> list-owner at grouptalkweb.org <mailto:list-owner at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>
>>>> <mailto:list-owner at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so
>>>>>
>>>> it is more specific
>>>>
>>>>>> than "Re: Contents of List digest..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. psychodrama status (Adam Blatner)
>>>>>>    2. Re: psychodrama status (Peter Howie)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> --
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 22:11:20 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com <mailto:adam at blatner.com>
>>>>>
>>>> <mailto:adam at blatner.com>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: psychodrama status
>>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org <mailto:list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>
>>>> <mailto:list at grouptalkweb.org>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Message-ID: <006d01c6abaa$2d804990$2f01a8c0 at dell>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Colleagues, for your information, one of the
>>>>>
>>>> major textbooks for
>>>>>> training psychotherapists and counselors has been
>>>>>
>>>> Current
>>>>>> Psychotherapies, edited by Ray Corsini & Danny
>>>>>
>>>> Wedding. This series
>>>>>> is now preparing its 8th edition. Chapters on
>>>>>
>>>> psychodrama were first
>>>>>> included in the 2nd edition, 1973, by Leon Fine.
>>>>>
>>>> I wrote chapters for
>>>>>> the 4th (1989) and 5th editions (1995), and for
>>>>>
>>>> the last 7th ed (2005).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       This series has been taken over by a
>>>>>
>>>> textbook publisher who
>>>>>> reviews the relevance of each approach so that
>>>>>
>>>> the editors can add
>>>>>> new ones that seem to be in fashion, take out
>>>>>
>>>> ones that are dropping
>>>>>> out of favor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           Here's a report done by their
>>>>>
>>>> surveyors:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     This was a pre-revision survey that included
>>>>>
>>>> questions on chapter
>>>>>> organization, general issues, ancillaries, and
>>>>>
>>>> website features.
>>>>>> The survey respondents were drawn from a pool of
>>>>>
>>>> all those who have
>>>>>> been sampled the seventh edition of the book,
>>>>>
>>>> excluding the authors
>>>>>> of this and competing texts.  There were 95
>>>>>
>>>> participants, 60% of
>>>>>> which were users of the book, while 40% used
>>>>>
>>>> competing books.  They
>>>>>> came from Psychology, Counseling, Nursing,
>>>>>
>>>> Education, Human
>>>>>> Development, and Social Work departments,  and
>>>>>
>>>> represented 41 states.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Results
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The least-assigned chapter was Chapter 13:
>>>>>
>>>> Psychodrama, which was
>>>>>> assigned by a little under a quarter of
>>>>>
>>>> professors.
>>>
>>> === message truncated ===
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> -------------------
>>> Orange vous informe que cet  e-mail a ete controle par l'anti- 
>>> virus mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete  
>>> detecte.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> -----------------
> Orange vous informe que cet  e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus  
> mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte.
>
>
>

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: /pipermail/list_grouptalkweb.org/attachments/20060730/44921077/attachment.html

More information about the List mailing list