List Digest, Vol 4, Issue 4S topic:societry

HV Psychodrama hvpi at hvc.rr.com
Tue Oct 3 17:40:38 CDT 2006


Linda and everyone,
If anyone is interested in putting an display ad about their practice of 
training workshops or a directory listing of their training program in the 
ASGPP conference brochure, please get in touch with me NOW!! This is a great 
way to get information about your program out to over 20,000 people 
interested in psychodrama.
Rebecca
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From: "Linda Ciotola" <vegmom at closecall.com>
To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: List Digest, Vol 4, Issue 4S topic:societry


> Interesting that in a training I did last week for staff at an addictions 
> tx
> center, I introduced Natalie Miller's placement of the Stages of Change 
> into
> Action( which she presented at the ASGPP).There is, of course, a role
> training element here - e.g. the person "walking the wheel of change" 
> takes
> on the role of the "determined preparer", the "action-taker" and so on. 
> Nice
> marriage of the two. My thanks to Natalie for teaching this so well at the
> conference. Linda Ciotola
>
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>   1. psychodrama thesis help (Adam Blatner)
>   2. PD and Panic Attacks (HV Psychodrama)
>   3. Theoritical categories (k.kade at att.net)
>   4. Re: Theoritical categories (edwschreiber at earthlink.net)
>   5. Re: PD and Panic Attacks (BARNETT WEISS)
>   6. Re: PD and Panic Attacks (HV Psychodrama)
>   7. Correction in Panic attack web site (BARNETT WEISS)
>   8. Re: [SPAM] Re: PD and Panic Attacks (W Randy McCommons)
>   9. Re: Theoritical categories (Adam Blatner)
>  10. Fw: Re: Theoritical categories (edwschreiber at earthlink.net)
>  11. AWP Conference (Sylvia Israel)
>  12. Psychodrama Open Sessions (HV Psychodrama)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 15:49:39 -0500
> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> Subject: psychodrama thesis help
> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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> If anyone can help this colleague in Turkey, please do so.
>         Other than referring him to Jim Sacks' bibliography, I don't know
> how to do this. Warmly, ADam
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: serefalgur
> To: adam at blatner.com
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:19 AM
> Subject: thesis
>
>
> I am ?eref Algur.I study pscyhodrama in ?STANBUL PSCYHODRAMA INSTITUTE of
> pscyhodrama.
> now I am in the step of thesis.The subject of my thesis is;"The treatment 
> of
> pan?ck attack in pscyhodrama" Regarding  this subject  if you have any
> writings or any written document,I will be
> very pleased if you will send to me.Because  in Turkey there is not any
> studies.I tought that
> you could have this.  Best regards.
>
>
> My address:KOCAS?NAN MERKEZ KIZ MESLEK L?SES?             E
> MAIL:serefalgur at mynet.com
> PDR SERV?S? ?STASYON CAD. NO :26
>     KAYSER? TURKEY
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> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> Subject: PD and Panic Attacks
> To: <serefalgur at mynet.com>, "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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> Dear Seref,
> If you Google psychodrama and the exact phrase" Panic disorder"  you will
> get all sorts of information about the use of psychodrama with folks who
> suffer from panic attacks. You might also try the exact phrase "panic
> attack" Good luck and let us know what you find,
> Rebecca Walters,
>
> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
> 68 DuBois Road  New Paltz, NY 12561
> (845) 255 7502   hvpi at hvc.rr.com
> visit us at our website:  www.hvpi.net
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> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:57:51 +0000
> From: k.kade at att.net
> Subject: Theoritical categories
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> Hello there, I asked a question regarding what theoritical framework 
> people
> think that Moreno should be included, Humanistic, Behavorial, 
> Psychodynamic
> etc.  I got a few replies which I enjoyed and appreciated.  I would love
> feed back on this idea:
>
> A whole new sub group that would be called:  Role Theorists basing it on
> sociometry and sociatry and the resulting treatment modalities of
> psychodrama, sociodrama, and other action orientated models that have
> developed from this theortical basis.
>
> What are people's initial response to this idea?
> Do have ideas to include?
>
> I will be presenting the different approaches this week and next to my 
> class
> and I am seriously contemplating just adding it in as required a new
> theorist perspective that just happens to be not included in our
> books...yet.
>
> I appreciate what anyone has to say...Kaya
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> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:03:19 -0400 (EDT)
> From: edwschreiber at earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: Theoritical categories
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> My question is:  how do you understand and/or define sociatry?
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: k.kade at att.net
>>Sent: Oct 2, 2006 6:57 PM
>>To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>Subject: Theoritical categories
>>
>>Hello there, I asked a question regarding what theoritical framework 
>>people
> think that Moreno should be included, Humanistic, Behavorial, 
> Psychodynamic
> etc.  I got a few replies which I enjoyed and appreciated.  I would love
> feed back on this idea:
>>
>>A whole new sub group that would be called:  Role Theorists basing it on
> sociometry and sociatry and the resulting treatment modalities of
> psychodrama, sociodrama, and other action orientated models that have
> developed from this theortical basis.
>>
>>What are people's initial response to this idea?
>>Do have ideas to include?
>>
>>I will be presenting the different approaches this week and next to my
> class and I am seriously contemplating just adding it in as required a new
> theorist perspective that just happens to be not included in our
> books...yet.
>>
>>I appreciate what anyone has to say...Kaya
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 17:34:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: PD and Panic Attacks
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> Message-ID: <20061003003416.14260.qmail at web84110.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> THe single most effective work with Panic attacks that I am aware of far
> beyond anything I have experienced both in its elegance and staying power 
> is
> that of Dr. Ron Robbins who was the first person hired by Zerka and Dr. to
> run the MOreno Institute in Beacon when They were thinking of retiring 
> from
> continuing the training themselves back in the 70s. Ron is an
> internationally famous trainer for Bioenergetics and has developed his own
> form of therapy out of his experience which he calls Rythmic Integration 
> and
> has published a book by that name. The APA is in the process of reviewing
> Ron's protocal for the one session treatment of Panic attacks. The web 
> site
> where you can learn more about this is www.paniproject.com
>  As I say, It is quite an elegant protocal and I among others am working
> together methodically with Ron in its use in other kinds of syndromes 
> which
> have similarities to pannic attacks. One in particular in which I have an
> interest is stuttering.
>  Blessings all, Bud
>
> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>          Dear Seref,
>  If you Google psychodrama and the exact phrase" Panic disorder"  you will
> get all sorts of information about the use of psychodrama with folks who
> suffer from panic attacks. You might also try the exact phrase "panic
> attack" Good luck and let us know what you find,
>  Rebecca Walters,
>
>  Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
> 68 DuBois Road  New Paltz, NY 12561
> (845) 255 7502   hvpi at hvc.rr.com
> visit us at our website:  www.hvpi.net
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> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 20:48:58 -0400
> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: PD and Panic Attacks
> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Message-ID: <00ab01c6e685$b672e620$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
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> If anyone wants to get in tough with Ron he lives on Academy St in
> Poughkeepsie, NY. Judy Swallow, Larry Winters and I trained in rhythmic
> integration and bioenergetics   with him and his wife, Gloria, who was 
> part
> of the original Playback Theater troupe with Jonathan Fox. Small world...
> Rebecca Walters
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: BARNETT WEISS
>  To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:34 PM
>  Subject: Re: PD and Panic Attacks
>
>
>  THe single most effective work with Panic attacks that I am aware of far
> beyond anything I have experienced both in its elegance and staying power 
> is
> that of Dr. Ron Robbins who was the first person hired by Zerka and Dr. to
> run the MOreno Institute in Beacon when They were thinking of retiring 
> from
> continuing the training themselves back in the 70s. Ron is an
> internationally famous trainer for Bioenergetics and has developed his own
> form of therapy out of his experience which he calls Rythmic Integration 
> and
> has published a book by that name. The APA is in the process of reviewing
> Ron's protocal for the one session treatment of Panic attacks. The web 
> site
> where you can learn more about this is www.paniproject.com
>  As I say, It is quite an elegant protocal and I among others am working
> together methodically with Ron in its use in other kinds of syndromes 
> which
> have similarities to pannic attacks. One in particular in which I have an
> interest is stuttering.
>  Blessings all, Bud
>
>  HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>    Dear Seref,
>    If you Google psychodrama and the exact phrase" Panic disorder"  you
> will get all sorts of information about the use of psychodrama with folks
> who suffer from panic attacks. You might also try the exact phrase "panic
> attack" Good luck and let us know what you find,
>    Rebecca Walters,
>
>    Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
>    68 DuBois Road  New Paltz, NY 12561
>    (845) 255 7502   hvpi at hvc.rr.com
>    visit us at our website:  www.hvpi.net
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> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 17:55:17 -0700 (PDT)
> From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>
> Subject: Correction in Panic attack web site
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> Sorry about that: it is www.panicproject.com  I had left out the c in 
> panic
> Blessings all, Bud
>
> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:      If anyone wants to get in 
> tough
> with Ron he lives on Academy St in Poughkeepsie, NY. Judy Swallow, Larry
> Winters and I trained in rhythmic integration and bioenergetics   with him
> and his wife, Gloria, who was part of the original Playback Theater troupe
> with Jonathan Fox. Small world...
>  Rebecca Walters
>    ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: BARNETT WEISS
>  To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:34 PM
>  Subject: Re: PD and Panic Attacks
>
>
>  THe single most effective work with Panic attacks that I am aware of far
> beyond anything I have experienced both in its elegance and staying power 
> is
> that of Dr. Ron Robbins who was the first person hired by Zerka and Dr. to
> run the MOreno Institute in Beacon when They were thinking of retiring 
> from
> continuing the training themselves back in the 70s. Ron is an
> internationally famous trainer for Bioenergetics and has developed his own
> form of therapy out of his experience which he calls Rythmic Integration 
> and
> has published a book by that name. The APA is in the process of reviewing
> Ron's protocal for the one session treatment of Panic attacks. The web 
> site
> where you can learn more about this is www.paniproject.com
>  As I say, It is quite an elegant protocal and I among others am working
> together methodically with Ron in its use in other kinds of syndromes 
> which
> have similarities to pannic attacks. One in particular in which I have an
> interest is stuttering.
>  Blessings all, Bud
>
> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>          Dear Seref,
>  If you Google psychodrama and the exact phrase" Panic disorder"  you will
> get all sorts of information about the use of psychodrama with folks who
> suffer from panic attacks. You might also try the exact phrase "panic
> attack" Good luck and let us know what you find,
>  Rebecca Walters,
>
>  Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
> 68 DuBois Road  New Paltz, NY 12561
> (845) 255 7502   hvpi at hvc.rr.com
> visit us at our website:  www.hvpi.net
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> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 18:57:43 -0700
> From: "W Randy McCommons" <Dramatx at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: PD and Panic Attacks
> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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> Dear Bud, The web site you refer to doesn't seem to be correctly 
> addressed.
> Is it correctly typed? Randy Mc RDT/BCT
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: BARNETT WEISS
>  To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>  Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:34 PM
>  Subject: [SPAM] Re: PD and Panic Attacks
>
>
>  THe single most effective work with Panic attacks that I am aware of far
> beyond anything I have experienced both in its elegance and staying power 
> is
> that of Dr. Ron Robbins who was the first person hired by Zerka and Dr. to
> run the MOreno Institute in Beacon when They were thinking of retiring 
> from
> continuing the training themselves back in the 70s. Ron is an
> internationally famous trainer for Bioenergetics and has developed his own
> form of therapy out of his experience which he calls Rythmic Integration 
> and
> has published a book by that name. The APA is in the process of reviewing
> Ron's protocal for the one session treatment of Panic attacks. The web 
> site
> where you can learn more about this is www.paniproject.com
>  As I say, It is quite an elegant protocal and I among others am working
> together methodically with Ron in its use in other kinds of syndromes 
> which
> have similarities to pannic attacks. One in particular in which I have an
> interest is stuttering.
>  Blessings all, Bud
>
>  HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>    Dear Seref,
>    If you Google psychodrama and the exact phrase" Panic disorder"  you
> will get all sorts of information about the use of psychodrama with folks
> who suffer from panic attacks. You might also try the exact phrase "panic
> attack" Good luck and let us know what you find,
>    Rebecca Walters,
>
>    Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
>    68 DuBois Road  New Paltz, NY 12561
>    (845) 255 7502   hvpi at hvc.rr.com
>    visit us at our website:  www.hvpi.net
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> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 22:19:26 -0500
> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> Subject: Re: Theoritical categories
> To: <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>, <list at grouptalkweb.org>,
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> Hi Kaya, building on Ed's question about sociatry. Clear definition, but 
> it
> doesn't fit
> what you said.
>   Sociatry is the application of the best of psychiatric, group
> psychotherapeutic,
> regular psychotherapeutic, and of course his own sociometric and
> psychodramatic methods,
> suitably adapted, to help the healing of society rather than the psyche of
> individuals. It
> fits with his intuition that good tools transcend the clinical context and
> deserve to be
> applied in all contexts, at home, on the playground, at all levels of
> schooling, in
> marriages, churches, politics, and so forth. Promoting spontaneity in the
> way we set up
> systems is one common theme, for example.
>
>     move down to your message...
> ----- Original Message ----- From: edwschreiber at earthlink.net October 02,
> 2006
>> My question is:  how do you understand and/or define sociatry?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: k.kade at att.net >Sent: Oct 2, 2006
>>>To: list at grouptalkweb.org  Subject: Theoritical categories
>    Hello there, I asked a question regarding what theoritical framework
> people think that
> Moreno should be included, Humanistic, Behavorial, Psychodynamic etc.  I 
> got
> a few replies
> which I enjoyed and appreciated.  I would love feedback on this idea:
>    A whole new sub group that would be called:  Role Theorists basing it 
> on
> sociometry
> and sociatry and the resulting treatment modalities of psychodrama,
> sociodrama, and other
> action orientated models that have developed from this theortical basis.
>           Adam: I don't get what you've just proposed:  This category, 
> what
> kind of
> subgroup, of people, of theory?
>     And as a name of a group it's so long, drawn out that it doesn't make
> sense.
>           first of all, I know of almost no people who think of themselves
> or call
> themselves role theorists--at least as a group. I do, but it's a sub-sub
> role, and role
> theory as I see it is only very peripherally based on sociometry, not at 
> all
> on sociatry--
> one is theory, the other is a spirit of practice...
>          As Rory Remer notes in his most recent Journal article just out,
> there are
> several different subgroups of theory.
>
>>>What are people's initial response to this idea?    so my response, says
> Adam, is that I
>>>just don't get what you're aiming at. It seems you've jumbled too many
> things together.
>>>Try again.
>
>>>Do have ideas to include?  adam: always, but  for what purpose?  I try to
> target ideas
>>>for a context or purpose. (Have you read my 4th edition of Foundations of
> Psychodrama?
>>>Perhaps I answer parts of your questions there.
>
>           Wish I could help you more. Warmly, adam
>>>
>>>I will be presenting the different approaches this week and next to my
> class and I am
>>>seriously contemplating just adding it in as required a new theorist
> perspective that
>>>just happens to be not included in our books...yet.
>>>
>>>I appreciate what anyone has to say...Kaya
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:36:15 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: edwschreiber at earthlink.net
> Subject: Fw: Re: Theoritical categories
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> -----Forwarded Message-----
>>From: edwschreiber at earthlink.net
>>Sent: Oct 2, 2006 11:35 PM
>>To: Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>
>>Cc: amb1 at hughes.net
>>Subject: Re: Theoritical categories
>>
>>Building on what Adam has said, I fully agree.  I've read just about
> everything Dr. Moreno has written.  I've had a hundred or so
>>exchanges with Zerka Moreno (through meetings, emails, calls, visits) 
>>about
> this.  And I think that Adam hit it perfectly.  Sociatry, the best of the
> appication (some best practices yet to be realized) to help healing of
> society rather than individual psyche (but how well they are related).
>>
>>My work, 20 or so hours per week now, has been and continues to be to
> research some specific facets of Dr. Moreno's writings, and to extract 
> from
> those writings structures - social/sociometric structures - that might 
> (and
> I say now, just and only might) reflect a new phase of instruments 
> (Morenian
> Technology as a colleague not in our field, but in business leadership
> development) calls it.
>>
>>Adam Barcroft, my colleague here in Western MASS just yesterday informed 
>>me
> of an article Rory Remer wrote pointing us to all this.  The name of the
> journal escapes me as I write this - but it's a group psychotherapy 
> journal,
> not ours.
>>
>>My own work and interest is in bringing sociatric instruments out for them
> to be reivewed, refined, worked with by whomever might want to collaborate
> in the next few years.
>>
>>For now, we are refining them through our work in the reorganiztion of the
> therapeutic curriculum at a therapeutic bording school for students and
> augmented with work with families.  We have combined two theories:
> Prochaska's Stages of Change with Moreno.
>>
>>I, along with the clinical director of the school, are presenting our
> findings in Miami the first week of November.
>>
>>Ed Schreiber, TEP
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>
>>>Sent: Oct 2, 2006 11:19 PM
>>>To: edwschreiber at earthlink.net, list at grouptalkweb.org, k.kade at att.net
>>>Subject: Re: Theoritical categories
>>>
>>>Hi Kaya, building on Ed's question about sociatry. Clear definition, but
> it doesn't fit
>>>what you said.
>>>   Sociatry is the application of the best of psychiatric, group
> psychotherapeutic,
>>>regular psychotherapeutic, and of course his own sociometric and
> psychodramatic methods,
>>>suitably adapted, to help the healing of society rather than the psyche 
>>>of
> individuals. It
>>>fits with his intuition that good tools transcend the clinical context 
>>>and
> deserve to be
>>>applied in all contexts, at home, on the playground, at all levels of
> schooling, in
>>>marriages, churches, politics, and so forth. Promoting spontaneity in the
> way we set up
>>>systems is one common theme, for example.
>>>
>>>     move down to your message...
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: edwschreiber at earthlink.net October 02,
> 2006
>>>> My question is:  how do you understand and/or define sociatry?
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: k.kade at att.net >Sent: Oct 2, 2006
>>>>>To: list at grouptalkweb.org  Subject: Theoritical categories
>>>    Hello there, I asked a question regarding what theoritical framework
> people think that
>>>Moreno should be included, Humanistic, Behavorial, Psychodynamic etc.  I
> got a few replies
>>>which I enjoyed and appreciated.  I would love feedback on this idea:
>>>    A whole new sub group that would be called:  Role Theorists basing it
> on sociometry
>>>and sociatry and the resulting treatment modalities of psychodrama,
> sociodrama, and other
>>>action orientated models that have developed from this theortical basis.
>>>           Adam: I don't get what you've just proposed:  This category,
> what kind of
>>>subgroup, of people, of theory?
>>>     And as a name of a group it's so long, drawn out that it doesn't 
>>> make
> sense.
>>>           first of all, I know of almost no people who think of
> themselves or call
>>>themselves role theorists--at least as a group. I do, but it's a sub-sub
> role, and role
>>>theory as I see it is only very peripherally based on sociometry, not at
> all on sociatry--
>>>one is theory, the other is a spirit of practice...
>>>          As Rory Remer notes in his most recent Journal article just 
>>> out,
> there are
>>>several different subgroups of theory.
>>>
>>>>>What are people's initial response to this idea?    so my response, 
>>>>>says
> Adam, is that I
>>>>>just don't get what you're aiming at. It seems you've jumbled too many
> things together.
>>>>>Try again.
>>>
>>>>>Do have ideas to include?  adam: always, but  for what purpose?  I try
> to target ideas
>>>>>for a context or purpose. (Have you read my 4th edition of Foundations
> of Psychodrama?
>>>>>Perhaps I answer parts of your questions there.
>>>
>>>           Wish I could help you more. Warmly, adam
>>>>>
>>>>>I will be presenting the different approaches this week and next to my
> class and I am
>>>>>seriously contemplating just adding it in as required a new theorist
> perspective that
>>>>>just happens to be not included in our books...yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>I appreciate what anyone has to say...Kaya
>>>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:08:26 -0700
> From: Sylvia Israel <sylvia at imaginecenter.net>
> Subject: AWP Conference
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> Message-ID: <4521E23A.2090107 at imaginecenter.net>
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> The Association for Women in Psychology is having their conference in
> San Francisco March 8-11, 2007. Call for proposals though October 17,
> 2006. www.awpsf.org. I will be submitting a proposal and would love to
> have another psychodramatist.
> Sylvia Israel
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:59:00 -0400
> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> Subject: Psychodrama Open Sessions
> To: <NYCCAT at yahoogroups.com>, <tristatechapter at yahoogroups.com>,
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>
>  The Hudson Valley Chapter of the American Society of Group Psychotherapy
> and Psychodrama
>  Evenings of Psychodrama
>  Open sessions will be presented on
>  the third Friday of each month at 7:30 PM
>  at Boughton Place on Kisor Road in Highland, NY (3 miles from the New
> Paltz exit on the NYS Thruway)
>
>
>   Open Sessions: Open sessions are two to two and a half hour psychodrama
> sessions offered by certified psychodramatists to the general public. You
> may participate as little or as much as you want.
>
>  Upcoming Open Sessions
>
>  all sessions begin at 7:30 p.m.
>
>
>  Nov 17, 2006
>
>  December 15, 2006
>
>  January 19, 2007
>
>  February 16, 2007
>
>  and will continue through June
>
>  Each session is directed by a certified psychodramatist.
>  Highland Location: Boughton Place. home of the original Moreno 
> Psychodrama
> Theater, is on Kisor Rd in Highland, NY. Kisor Rd is on the south side of
> RT. 299, halfway between RT. 9W in Highland and the Thruway exit in New
> Paltz. Contribution: $6 ($4 for students and seniors)
>
>  In case of questionable weather or for more information please call:
>  (845) 255-7502
>
>  You can get more informaton at www.hvpi.net or send us your email address
> and we will keep you updated.
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