List Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 Magic Shop

Mon Apr 9 10:14:48 CDT 2007

Hello All: Zerka said directly in a workshop last year that JL invented the
Magic Shop ....Linda Ciotola

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Today's Topics:

   1. Hannah Weiner (773LORELEI GOLDMAN)
   2. RE: Hannah Weiner (thana ag)
   3. RE: NEW ARTICLE POSTED ON ASGPP WEBSITE (James Sacks)
   4. RE: NEW ARTICLE POSTED ON ASGPP WEBSITE (Ronald Anderson)

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 10:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: 773LORELEI GOLDMAN <loreleigoldman at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Hannah Weiner
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   In my training I heard wonderful remarks about Hannah Wiener.
  I concur with the idea of a reminiscence theater to remember our elders
and their contributions. I am still not clear about the originator of the,
"MAGIC SHOP," and would like to hear more about who invented same...

  Lorelei

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Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 20:03:58 +0000
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Hi Lorelei,
It is rumoured it was Hannah,and I would accept it.I learned it from her,and

then improvised additional versions. As did others. But I think the main 
idea was her. I am open to be contradicted. Perhaps,Anne Shutzenberger can 
shed more loght.
anath garber.

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>Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 10:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
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>    In my training I heard wonderful remarks about Hannah Wiener.
>   I concur with the idea of a reminiscence theater to remember our elders 
>and their contributions. I am still not clear about the originator of the, 
>"MAGIC SHOP," and would like to hear more about who invented same...
>
>   Lorelei
>

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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 16:04:32 -0500
From: James Sacks <jmsacks at mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: NEW ARTICLE POSTED ON ASGPP WEBSITE
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Dear Karen,
I am happy tell you a little about Hannah. When I came to NY in the 
late 50's I attended one of her open sessions at the Moreno Institue 
then at 101 Park Ave. I was amazed. She made psychodrama so much a 
part of her that I had   impression that I  thought she had really 
invented it. She was a witch. I couldn't figure how she did what she 
did. She would sometimes double with one word or a phrase that seemed 
meaningless to me but the protagonist would  break into happy tears. 
I never met a more natural psychodramatist before or since. I soon 
became a regular at her sessions.  I only met Moreno and Zerka later 
and learned that Hannah, did not in fact, invent psychodrama, but she 
certainly assimilated it into her soul.

Hannah had zillions of friends and she always appeared at psychodrama 
events with a retinue of admirers. They knew about her and didn't 
want to  miss the show. A genuinely spontaneous person herself, she 
was able to impart  spontaneity to other by example alone.  She was 
also very funny. This  same mind that could pick on the subtle cues 
from a protagonist also gave her a delightful sense of humor.

It was a terrible loss when she died young of cancer. Psychodrama has 
never been the same.
I didn't think that that movement could survive without her. 
Fortunately I was wrong it has but her influence has survived in the 
psychodramatic style of those who knew her.

This is the woman whose name  was used for the Award you received. 
Ask anyone who was around in those days.

Sincerely, Jim

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>I think it's a GREAT idea to post articles on our web site -- 
>resources are good to draw people in and learn about this  method. I 
>am especially interested in this one, as I received the Hannah 
>Weiner award a couple of years ago, and sorry to say that I really 
>don't know who Hannah was, except for apparently having a hand in 
>developing the Magic Shop. May I say that it would be great to have 
>a selection of writings from the award winners through the years. It 
>would be another way of recognizing the winners AND also helping us 
>actually know  more about them and why they are special to ASGPP.
>
>Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP
>Companions In Healing
>
>Lake House Health &  Learning Center
>932 Lake Ave.
>Racine, WI 53403
>
>(262) 633-2645
><mailto:karen at companionsinhealing.com>karen at companionsinhealing.com
>
><http://www.lakehousecenter.com/>www.lakehousecenter.com
><http://www.companionsinhealing.com/>www.companionsinhealing.com
>
>
>
>
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>[mailto:list-bounces at grouptalkweb.org] On Behalf Of Adam Blatner
>Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 5:54 PM
>To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>Cc: iagp-psychodrama at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: NEW ARTICLE POSTED ON ASGPP WEBSITE
>
>Passing this along from John Rasberry, ASGPP President-elect:
><http://www.asgpp.org>www.asgpp.org   Dear Colleagues,
>      The Library section of our website is gradually expanding with 
>literature from the great minds from our community. The latest 
>addition is:
>
><http://www.asgpp.org/docs/OM06310.pdf>Living Experiences with Death 
>- A Journeyman's View Through Psychodrama, by Hannah B. Weiner, MA, 
>Omega: Journal of Death and Dying Volume 6, No. 3, 1975, pp. 
>251-274. With permission from Baywood Publishing, Amityville, NY.
>
>      Special thanks to Baywood Publishing for permission to post 
>this important article and their gracious help through the 
>process.  All the best  John Rasberry, President-Elect
>
>Also, note the
>65TH  ANNUAL  AMERICAN  SOCIETY  OF   
>GROUP PSYCHOTHERAPY   & PSYCHODRAMA CONFERENCE
>                              Theme:GIVE PEACE A CHANCE:   COMMUNITY 
>CONSCIOUSNESS,
>INNER WISDOM & SOCIAL CHANGE
>New York, NY  April 26-30, 2007
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Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 15:25:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ronald Anderson <anderson4513 at sbcglobal.net>
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James Sacks <jmsacks at mindspring.com> wrote:        Dear Karen,
  I am happy tell you a little about Hannah. When I came to NY in the late
50's I attended one of her open sessions at the Moreno Institue then at 101
Park Ave. I was amazed. She made psychodrama so much a part of her that I
had   impression that I  thought she had really invented it. She was a
witch. I couldn't figure how she did what she did. She would sometimes
double with one word or a phrase that seemed meaningless to me but the
protagonist would  break into happy tears. I never met a more natural
psychodramatist before or since. I soon became a regular at her sessions.  I
only met Moreno and Zerka later and learned that Hannah, did not in fact,
invent psychodrama, but she certainly assimilated it into her soul.

  Hannah had zillions of friends and she always appeared at psychodrama
events with a retinue of admirers. They knew about her and didn't want to
miss the show. A genuinely spontaneous person herself, she was able to
impart  spontaneity to other by example alone.  She was also very funny.
This  same mind that could pick on the subtle cues from a protagonist also
gave her a delightful sense of humor.

  It was a terrible loss when she died young of cancer. Psychodrama has
never been the same.
  I didn't think that that movement could survive without her. Fortunately I
was wrong it has but her influence has survived in the psychodramatic style
of those who knew her.

  This is the woman whose name  was used for the Award you received. Ask
anyone who was around in those days.

  Sincerely, Jim

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Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
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  I think it's a GREAT idea to post articles on our web site -- resources
are good to draw people in and learn about this  method. I am especially
interested in this one, as I received the Hannah Weiner award a couple of
years ago, and sorry to say that I really don't know who Hannah was, except
for apparently having a hand in developing the Magic Shop. May I say that it
would be great to have a selection of writings from the award winners
through the years. It would be another way of recognizing the winners AND
also helping us actually know  more about them and why they are special to
ASGPP.     Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP  Companions In Healing     Lake
House Health &  Learning Center  932 Lake Ave.  Racine, WI 53403     (262)
633-2645  karen at companionsinhealing.com     www.lakehousecenter.com
www.companionsinhealing.com        

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[mailto:list-bounces at grouptalkweb.org] On Behalf Of Adam Blatner
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 5:54 PM
To: list at grouptalkweb.org
Cc: iagp-psychodrama at yahoogroups.com
Subject: NEW ARTICLE POSTED ON ASGPP WEBSITE
  Passing this along from John Rasberry, ASGPP President-elect:
www.asgpp.org   Dear Colleagues,       The Library section of our website is
gradually expanding with literature from the great minds from our community.
The latest addition is:     Living Experiences with Death - A Journeyman's
View Through Psychodrama, by Hannah B. Weiner, MA, Omega: Journal of Death
and Dying Volume 6, No. 3, 1975, pp. 251-274. With permission from Baywood
Publishing, Amityville, NY.          Special thanks to Baywood Publishing
for permission to post this important article and their gracious help
through the process.  All the best  John Rasberry, President-Elect     Also,
note the  65TH  ANNUAL  AMERICAN  SOCIETY  OF     GROUP PSYCHOTHERAPY   &
PSYCHODRAMA CONFERENCE                               Theme:GIVE PEACE A
CHANCE:   COMMUNITY CONSCIOUSNESS,  INNER WISDOM & SOCIAL CHANGE  New York,
NY  April 26-30, 2007  
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