A problem with Sociometry?

[thana ag]

A problem with sociometry or Human Nature?  Sociometry maps human 
relations,interactions,not the motivations,will etc. Under a thin veneer of 
civility we are all Macciavellian and Angelic. What gets expressed iin the 
3D world depends on so many variables. It was Moreno's wish that we all 
become a therapeutic agent to another..
anath garber


>From: "Johanna and Hamish" <perfect_brown at xtra.co.nz>
>To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>Subject: A problem with Sociometry?
>Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:30:08 +1200
>
>Greetings group talkers
>
>I have been contemplating Sociometry and thought I would post some thoughts
>about Sociometry and organisations because I thought your responses and
>reflections would be interesting.
>
>Warmly
>Hamish Brown
>Psychodramatist
>
>
>A problem with sociometry as an explanatory theory of human dynamics seems
>to appear in attempting to apply it to organisational systems - when I take
>it not just as an explanatory theory but also as a theory to guide my
>actions I find that I am put into a dilemma.  On the one hand I have
>responses to the world that come about as a function of my role repertoire
>which cause me to move towards and away from others at different times - on
>the other hand I am self conscious of the responses others are having to me
>and their moving towards and away from me at different times often due to 
>my
>speaking or actions.  I find that I am able to adjust so that others are
>more inclined to move towards me, also I am able to build relationship with
>a wide range of people so that there is positive tele.  The difficulty
>arises when I notice that while I might be able to cause someone to move
>towards me and doing so is not congruent with my natural response to that
>person in that situation.  I suppose I might call this a 'role conflict' 
>and
>I might do a psychodrama to reconcile this conflict within myself.
>However...
>
>Contemplating this has me value the work of Machiavelli the Italian
>philosopher.  The thing is that I want to see the world and relationships 
>as
>more than a series of political games and maneuverings and yet it is 
>obvious
>to me at some points that letting my true feelings show would cause
>fragmentation in the system and result in my not getting what I want.
>
>If I am in the role of trainee or employee where there is little or no
>positional power associated with the role and a set of expectations
>regarding how I should best act, then there is quite some burden on me to
>'fall into line', to do what others want so I can get what I want.  The
>problem I am pointing to is not this in its self (sociometry provides a
>useful way to present this dilemma to all of you) the problem is that this
>is quite a simple (polar) way of seeing the issues contained in this
>situation.  While the description is accurate it does not seem to create a
>rich enough explanation to assist me to resolve my power issues 
>sufficiently
>to experience relationship differently.
>
>Due to my tendency to avoid my power issues it leads me away from the
>therapeutic arena of experiencing myself and deepening my reflections on my
>inner experience and developing the capacity to relate to others through
>different criteria and towards my clever rational capacity to act in a
>Machiavellian manner to create what I want - the cost never seems very big
>at the time, but is in fact huge.  I find myself living in a Machiavellian
>world which I cannot escape because my projections and the rational 
>response
>to these perfectly reasonable projections make me aware of how 
>Machiavellian
>every one else is.
>
>I guess I'm saying that while sociometric explanations sure are helpful to
>those observing the system I am not sure how helpful they are to those
>within it and of cause this separation is a problem in its self (as I don't
>believe it exists).
>
>
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