Fwd: sociatry821

thana ag anathga at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 21 16:41:19 CDT 2007


Dear Ed,
Sorry that you feel despair.
I think despair is "good"! If more people will  take less prozac and  accept 
that their despair,depression  may have something to do with reality: 
working hard to consume ever more, being defined by  "net worth", 
disregarding how their behaviour affects others,the enviornment, etc  
-perhaps there would be a chance for each of us to become a therapeutic 
agent to another: consume more love and compassion , less fuel(especially if 
the former will come with no fees attached...)
I liked the last exchange between you and Adam.
anath

>From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>To: ASGPP Listserv <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>Subject: Fwd: sociatry821
>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:52:54 -0400
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>Begin forwarded message:
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>>From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>Date: August 21, 2007 2:52:39 PM EDT
>>To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
>>Subject: Re: sociatry821
>>
>>Thanks Adam for this.
>>I want to make a similar apology to our community as well,
>>and at times I feel a fish out of water (as the water heats).
>>
>>Being in China I saw a future I want no part of.
>>Meaning:  the horrendous destruction of nature in the effort to
>>consume.  It was 1984.
>>
>>And then I come home to our land, and learn of floods in the midwest,
>>and I read scientific reports about the climate inching up faster  than 
>>computer
>>models predicted.  And then I read reports of Greenland slipping  due to 
>>underground
>>leakage of the ice formations, and then I learn in China of the 80  
>>million (mostly peasant
>>farmers) made homeless, and I feel despair - the despair I can  imagine 
>>must be felt all over,
>>and I ask:  what the hell can we do - and I realize this state of  denial 
>>- we are all facing - and
>>I talk with colleagues and they reflect the same - and I realize in  the 
>>end Moreno was right:
>>if we (I) do not consider all of humanity, what I am?
>>
>>Best and thanks,
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>
>>On Aug 21, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>>
>>>I want to apologize for passing along some conversation that Ed  
>>>considered confidential back-channeling. I admit that was my fault  
>>>rather than Kim's. I really respect and admire Ed for his many  different 
>>>contributions, his international travels and support for  psychodrama at 
>>>conferences; his scholarship both on the Zerka book  and in other 
>>>continuing ways; his research; his taking the work  into creative new 
>>>alternatives; and, yes, his broader vision about  sociatry!
>>>        I only disagreed with the tactic of what kinds of materials  
>>>should be properly included on grouptalk. I do agree that it is  
>>>worthwhile to think together about what we who know about Moreno's  
>>>visions might be able to do to apply these in a broader context.
>>>         On the whole, I very much appreciate Ed's contributions,  as he 
>>>has helped to keep Grouptalk dynamically active as a place  for dialogue, 
>>>and regret that I may have injudicously overshot the  mark. Please keep 
>>>playing with us, Ed.
>>>
>>
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