Fw: Sociatry81907

HV Psychodrama hvpi at hvc.rr.com
Mon Aug 20 17:27:23 CDT 2007


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From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
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Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Sociatry81907


>    Marion Chase, the mama of dance therapy, had an interesting and 
> successful way of working with deeply disturbed people. She began moving 
> with the client exactly as s/he moved, and only after she had done this 
> for a while did she begin to expand her own movement, incrementally, to 
> make it larger or to move it in a different direction. She began by 
> joining, and making small changes so the client would move along with her, 
> rather than rejecting her movements. She helped them expand their movement 
> repertoire.
>
>  I think there is a parallel to what you are saying, here, Adam.
>
> In addition, I would like to know, specifically, what people are doing 
> with action methods to address environmental, political, social, economic, 
> etc. concerns....Herb Propper has been  recently writing to Grouptalk 
> about taking action methods into the Muslim culture of Bangladesh. I know 
> Susan Aaron has been working with Six Nations folks up in Canada.  Mary 
> Bellafatto has used action methods to help with reconciliation on Africa. 
> Who else?
>    Is there anyone out there out there working outside the 
> psychotherapuetic model, using action methods to address 
> socio/political/environmental issues here in the US or abroad?
>
> Rebecca
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:26 AM
> Subject: Sociatry81907
>
>
>>
>>
>>    Dear Ed,  I certainly respect your social concern. I just question the 
>> value of
>> re-stating the degree of  trouble we're in and noting all its 
>> permutations. It seems as if
>> you're shouting, but as I say, my preference is to focus more on specific 
>> remedies.
>> Really, we're talking about consciousness raising, and including  ecology 
>> as part of our
>> circle of concern. The next question is, how can we best do this?
>>       My approach is to help people strengthen their capacity to address 
>> issues, to
>> foster responsibility by increasing their
>>>> ability to respond. I hope to do this by broadening their role 
>>>> repertoire through
>>>> including action, sociodramatic techniques, as part of learning. Most 
>>>> folks don't know
>>>> how to role reverse, for example; there's a knack to extending the 
>>>> imagination this
>>>> way.
>>       I hope to promote the use of role theory as a user-friendly 
>> language for
>> psychology. The world needs to know how to integrate the best insights of 
>> psychology and
>> this is more difficult if there's too much weird jargon.
>>      Other goals are noted on my website biography. All these are aimed 
>> at strengthening
>> the infrastructure.
>> Approaching it from another angle: I think people tend to avoid thinking 
>> about that which
>> they cannot think about. Sretching more   than a little bit is 
>> experienced as overloading.
>> This is true in sports physiology and psychology, too. In psychology, 
>> Vygotsky talks about
>> learning at what he calls the Zone of Proximal Development. I call it the 
>> edge. Folks
>> don't learn beyond that zone or edge-region. We can gradually expand that 
>> region. (This
>> also relates to the principle of warming-up, but taken to a broader 
>> perspective.) We can
>> strengthen the "infra-structure" of skills, knowledge, and attitude. 
>> That's where I see
>> many of Moreno's contributions having a common denominator.
>>     Shouting about the urgency of the problem, though, may be 
>> counter-productive. Faced
>> with the threat of what is experienced by the limbic system as threat, 
>> shame, guilt,
>> punishment, the mind shuts down.
>>     So I focus on tiny steps, what can be done. This also partakes of (of 
>> all people) B.
>> F. Skinner's principles of operant
>> conditioning as part of learning theory: Break it down into small steps, 
>> relatively easy
>> achievements; and reinforce each step.
>>      What do you think? Warmly, Adam
>>
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