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[Adam Blatner]

Adam's further comments: on Bud Weiss' response at 4:14 PM 
   BW wrote--- also in response to Ann's reporting of Kevin's writing in ANZPA (?),  "I appreciate the depth of this attempt to be descriptive in some defining way using all kinds of wonderful sounding phrases and it leaves me a bit confused.
       AB: Whew, I wasn't the only one. 

   BW I reiterate that for me it is quite simple. Sociatry is the fishbowl. The tools are sociometry in its different forms, either cold where no rearrangement of the groups is made vs the hot form where rearrangement is made, Sociodrama, and psychodrama. All of these tools will facilitate the increase of spontaneity within the system...i'e. the opening up of choices for all, increase in role competence, and expansion of role capability for all. 
     AB: So, then, would it be your opinion that sociatry only involves the applications of Morenean methods in the service of helping humanity?  And other theories and methods---the thousands of others---are then not sociatry? 
      I'm still neutral or undecided, but wondering about what the best definition of the term would be.
              If the more limited approach is sociatry, then folks who want to also support things like, say, Theatre of the Oppressed  or   Playback Theatre  would be doing something beyond sociatry, even if it is in general alignment with sociatry's goals.

      BW I don't see it as any more complicated than that which is why I loved what Moreno had laid down as these principals were easy to grasp and lead to action directly. 
      AB: Okay, but I do see it complicated by the questions I just raised, and await some more general consensus. 

AB:  Bud then inserts a long quote from Malidoma Some, which again I think we need to critically analyze. No doubt some continued attention needs to be given in the ongoing tension between community needs and individual needs. Too much on the "let's don't be selfish" can lead to oppression by the collective. Too much on the individual can lead to a weakening of community vitality. How then to find the balance? We need to address specifics, I think. We need to recognize that talking in terms of noble generalities does NOT lead magically and automatically to right actions as applied in their particulars.   

   Thanks, Bud, for engaging. Warmly, Adam
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