Co-Creation & Membership
Marianne Shapiro
mariann at fidalgo.net
Sun Jul 1 20:40:23 CDT 2007
Dear Connie and anyone pro or con or anywhere in the middle zone re Souldrama or souldrama.
Could these criticisms that are felt to be in the background please step forward. Could they be encountered and aired publicly, so there is not this back log of feeling excluded, after all psychodrama is ar heart about encounter. the play of opposites so that something new can emerge. connie is wondering about the Co in co-creation. Can we give it to her?
Envy and jealousy can be there, sure, all emotions are allowed and have value. They do not have to be hidden--a jewel may be buried there. For me the word psychodrama is hard for people to take in this rural community where I live and work-- counseling itself often has a bad name, not to mention anything with the name psyche in it, so I often wish and do use different names, but haven't found any that capture the essence yet to my satisfaction. What we are doing is not for everyone, nor is it painless. We try to make it safe, but that does not mean free of pain.
I am still seeking a way to use these valuable tools in a way that works for me and helps to keep my own spontaneity ignited.. So marketing for me is about finding my own source and streaming with it. I am searching for and getting closer to myself thorugh my study and practice of these methods. and for this I am thankful. the source.
Back to marketing and the word soul, as it is always appealing. Souldrama is now trademarked by Connie MiIller, is that my real criticism? Soul or drama can ever really be trademarked or controlled by anyone, so I have some trouble there. do I have to study with Connie to use this name? this is a big world, does she ave the name everywhere, all over the world? that seems grandiose. Is that the underlying complaint, as if the word psychodrama needs to be changed, but now it cannot be because connie has control of the trade name?
Is there, or are there larger or different issues behind or beneath this envy? Will the other "critics" or critic please step forward, if you are there. To Co-create we need first of all to differentiate and be all that we can each be, while risking supporting the larger whole with our unique and valid viewpoints. So not only do I want the name souldrama I also want to travel all over the world and have a great website, none of which I have. And is Connie to blame? That would be convenient. So yes, my mind, my wanting could make a division between us, but that does not help.
and there really is no division, lest thinking make it so.
And to add insult to injury, Connie is referring a trainee to me--for her training. she is a smart cookie. and I am glad for the trainee. Being angry at her does not help me reach for what I am creating. I could be Sourpuss, I can get into that state and stay there a while. So, in that vein I have another complaint, which this that it looks like Connie's website and beautiful pictures make psychodrama look so wonderful and natural. It brings forward the polarity What about the dirty work, the down in the ditches that is only interested in the beauty of tension , the the play between intense opposites where both are held in the belly until transformation occurrs. Sabelli's Diamond of Opposites (although I realize that I am using perhaps the term a bit out of context, I am not sure) and the importance of staying with the "real struggle". And that life is about pain and pleasure, life and death, likes and dislikes and holding the tension that exists between strong forces. . does Connie's soulwork deal with this? I have never seen her work and wonder how a psychodrama can be done that addresses soul without dealing with these tough issues. Of course I realize that it is difficult to sell tension. People want relief.
This is important and meaningful work we all do, as it allows us to develop to our full creative extent, which is a blessing and a curse. let the game begin.....
respectful for the good of all mankind.
marianne shapiro
To: Marianne Shapiro ; connie at souldrama.com ; abepsychodrama at yahoo.com ; tmceline at adelphia.net
Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org ; asgpp at asgpp.org
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: Co-Creation & Membership
Hi Marianne,
The quote that touched me is "I am sorry that I have not experienced Souldrama, as I have been impressed with your outreach for some time and have also been thinking that the way to spread the psychodrama experience is through these larger conferences. Thank you for giving to the larger community and I imagine many people from around the country are now studying psychodrama because of souldrama. Souldrama is a much more user friendly word, I am envious that I did not come up with it myself as psychodram is very much about souldrama, as psyche does mean soul."
I have experienced much jealousy, and criticism throughout developing this process, so when you said that, your humility and honesty touched me. Unfortunely, the criticism came from those who never experienced the program.
I invite anyone to view the website page http://www.souldrama.com/internationaltrainings.html and click on the Souldrama slide show at Boughton Place.
I intend to refer future trainees for psychodrama training to the psychodramatists in the area where the workshops are held..This is not something that I can accomplish alone. There is only "creation" without the word "co". We need both.
Thanks, Connie
Thank you so much! I will meet you soon Connie
-----Original Message-----
From: Marianne Shapiro [mailto:mariann at fidalgo.net]
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2007 08:11 PM
To: connie at souldrama.com, abepsychodrama at yahoo.com, tmceline at adelphia.net
Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org, asgpp at asgpp.org
Subject: Re: Co-Creation & Membership
Dear Connie MIller,
If you do not mind me asking so publically, What was it that I wrote to you last night via Grouptalk that "touched your soul and brought tears to your eyes?". I was not aware that I was touching into something at this deeper level.
Respectfully, Marianne.
----- Original Message -----
From: Connie Miller
To: Marianne Shapiro ; connie at souldrama.com ; abepsychodrama at yahoo.com ; tmceline at adelphia.net
Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org ; asgpp at asgpp.org
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: Co-Creation & Membership
Marianne, Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart. This touched my soul and brought tears to my eyes. Isn't this what it's all about? ...the good for all mankind? Many blessings , Connie
-----Original Message-----
From: Marianne Shapiro [mailto:mariann at fidalgo.net]
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2007 02:03 AM
To: connie at souldrama.com, abepsychodrama at yahoo.com, tmceline at adelphia.net
Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org, asgpp at asgpp.org
Subject: Re: Co-Creation & Membership
Dear Connie,
Yesterday a woman contacted me, through the ABE, that had been at the American Counseling Assoc.Conference in Detroit and attended your workshop. She was obviously inspired by the work she experienced with you, and now she wants to study Souldrama. She is seeking to earn 200 Psychodrama training credits closer to home, as this is part of the Souldrama curriculum. I appreciate the referral and also gave her information about the other TEPs in the area.
I am sorry that I have not experienced Souldrama, as I have been impressed with your outreach for some time and have also been thinking that the way to spread the psychodrama experience is through these larger conferences. Thank you for giving to the larger community and I imagine many people from around the country are now studying psychodrama because of souldrama. Souldrama is a much more user friendly word, I am envious that I did not come up with it myself as psychodram is very much about souldrama, as psyche does mean soul. I did refer this person to the 4 TEPs in the area, and to my PAT self as well. She will have ample opportunity to study further.
My experience has been that psychodramatists are 'givers', and for me I have to decide where and to whom I will give. What is a wise use of my time/energy? Sometimes I have been too overextended or unfocused to even ask this question, and I have given too widely or unconsciously. I am now on the lookout for a variety of Conferences I could present at that are closer to home. I live in Washington State. Action methods are so applicable, adaptable and useful for a much wider audience, let's get out there.
I am aware that lately quite a few people have been making good suggestions about a variety of Conferences that we could present at, and I apprecaite that.
Marianne Shapiro, PAT
.----- Original Message -----
From: Connie Miller
To: abepsychodrama at yahoo.com ; tmceline at adelphia.net
Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org ; asgpp at asgpp.org
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 12:01 PM
Subject: Co-Creation & Membership
Everyone has been talking about how to "get" more members.
Today, I just came back from presenting in Jersey City at the The Association for the Advancement of Social Work with Groups, Inc. An International Professional Organization. The presentation was "Souldrama: A therapeutic method to access our spiritual intelligence" and it was well attended. I questioned how come I was the only psychodramatist presenting there. The attendees loved the sociometry, the action methods and the psychodrama. These presentations attract many people to the psychodrama community. This would have been an amazing opportunity to add your spontaneity and creative methods.
Then I recalled presenting at the pre conference in Detroit this year for the American Counseling Association, as I have for the past five years. This organization has 50,000 members. I have presenting there almost every year and I have also announced in our publications about how beneficial it would be to have other psychdramatists present there as well. One of the previous speakers was Irving Yalom, speaking about creativity in groups. There were 10,000 members attending the National Conference this year in Detroiot. They are looking for new creative methods! Each state has an organization and sub divisions that are hungry to learn action methods. The NJ conference was packed and very curious to learn more when I presented "Doubling" Each time, people are awed by Moreno's methods and the sociometry of the group. Each time, few know about the history of how the first self help groups were started. So I asked myself again, where are the other psychodramatists?
Then it occurred what is happening with Souldrama. To train in this model, I require 250 hours of Souldrama and 200 hours of psychodrama training with a trained psychodramatist. I have done many international and national trainings and I always have and plan to in the future, send the attendees to the local trainers in their state or country for the psychodrama training.
This is co-creation. Even though I am a TEP and have a training group, my interest is in training others in this new model of Souldrama. I need the help of the all the other trainers in psychodrama to help support this model which is an outgrowth of psychodrama. This will help all of you attract new students for your training groups and spread psychodrama. I wonder about the resistance to my program, when so few of you have experienced it. Perhaps this is true with all new things.
So I have been inspired to share, my final thought ... perhaps we need less to worry about "getting" new members but perhaps we need to worry more about "giving" of ourselves and as well as sharing our knowledge of psychodrama and sociometry to the groups that are waiting to hear from us. Who shall survive? Maybe it is in the "giving" of the joy of the methods of psychodrama that the "getting" occurs.
Connie Miller TEP
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