The Sociatry Project

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Adam

I thought you may have recognized that (namely DSM-IV). Very perceptive, you
know I was pulling your leg. "Ha, ha or, more acurately hee, hee!" Diagnose
The Planet! Is that a researchable question for medicine? How about
Education? (The "E" in TEP is educator. Here is another leg-pull. Oy.)

What I don't know is if Moreno did diagnose the planet. (Obviously, Moreno
was an MD.) If so, where is that written in his works?

Another take was that someone, this morning, asked "How would you dramatize
it?" (I'm no psychodramatist.) Here is my idea on that:
http://www.mediate.com/articles/ebarker4.cfm In an empty chair, what would
great people do? If asked, psychodramatically, what would Gandhi say? How
about Nelson Mandela? I can email him and ask. I might. As for
psychodramatizing Sociatry, that is for someone else in the group not me.
Eric


On 6/15/07, Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com> wrote:
>
>  ha ha, ... most psychiatrists I know don't take the DSM-IV all that
> seriously. For certain tasks the best we can say is that it seems better
> than previous versions; for other tasks, we just do it for the insurance
> companies.
>     But your axis 3 (which is really about co-morbid medical conditions)
>         is funny... and provocative.
>       For what's the point of diagnosis at a certain level if the
> "patient" has little insight or inclination to insight?
>    My point is that we are perhaps ready to begin to promote psychological
> mindedness as a foundation for further work.. and healing, and role theory
> can be a user friendly language for this. Warmly, ADam
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* E L <elindblom at gmail.com>
> *To:* Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 15, 2007 3:00 PM
> *Subject:* Re: The Sociatry Project
>
>
> Adam
>
> How about this? Eric
>
>
> *DSM-IV*
>
> *MULTIAXIAL DIAGNOSIS*
>
> *(PLEASE COMPLETE ALL FIVE AXES)*
>
> **
>
> *AXIS I...*
>
> Dx Code..
>
> Dx Code...
>
> **
>
> *AXIS II...*
>
> Dx Code...
>
> **
>
> **
>
> *AXIS III...*
>
> Does patient have current general condition potentially relevant
> to understanding/ management of condition(s) in Axis I or II?
>
>
>
> �� No �� Yes
>
> **
>
> **
>
> *AXIS IV...*
>
> Severity: current psychosocial stressors
>
>
>
> �� None �� Low �� Moderate �� High Other ��
>
>
>
> *AXIS V: GAF Score*
>
> Highest Past Year At first Session Current
>
> High �� �� �� �� �� Low
>
>
>
> Modified from:  State of Maryland Uniform Treatment Plan Form
>
>
>
> On 6/14/07, Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi Eric, thoughts about trying to diagnose the planet, as an act of
> > sociatry:
> >
> > I have many, many diagnoses, from the prevalence of foolishness to the
> > as-yet-untapped potential of a number of good ideas and techniques.
> >        A recent response, though, works from Whitehead's dictum that we
> > should try to make things as simple as possible, but not simpler. There are
> > hundreds, thousands, millions of co-morbid diagnoses---if we dare to even
> > play with that term, to presume to exercise our weak skills waay beyond our
> > knowledge.  Co-morbid means that there can be more than one diagnosis, like
> > a patient with diabetes AND a sprained ankle AND an anxiety reaction because
> > he missed a crucial meeting.
> >
> >      I want to suggest that not only is our world suffering from an
> > information explosion, but also there has been an explosion of new types of
> > information, new categories and domains of knowledge. There has been a
> > re-cognition of the value of considering many categories we had
> > marginalized, dimly recognized as existing, but generally discounted. The
> > needs and opinions of the less educated, less articulate, the feelings of
> > infants and animals, the viewpoints of people who had generally been
> > considered to be opponents, primitive, too elitist, too common, or
> > others---i.e., "them" versus "us."  Psychic phenomena, mystical
> > phenomena, dreams, visions, imagination, play, the insights of
> > children, poets, etc.--- are becoming more respectable in our postmodern
> > discourse.
> >
> >        The more we open to these domains the more we begin to become
> > sensitive to phenomena that hadn't even been considered valid or relevant.
> > What I'm getting at is that mere number crunching by computers won't do it.
> > I'm suggesting that we've moved beyond the point of ever, ever, being able
> > to encompass the whole world, its problems in a myriad of domains, in any
> > theory, in any single person's mind. This is a change from a time 50 years
> > or less ago---maybe even today for some folks---when people believed that
> > really getting an answer, even a very extensive answer, was possible.
> >
> > I would suggest that this is a kind of "grasping," of trying to get what
> > cannot be gotten. Such as "fairness" in life. It is a childish residue,
> > supported by the culture implying that it is indeed attainable.
> >
> >       The alternative isn't simply copping out and giving up. There are
> > yet significant challenges that can be recognized and addressed in more
> > local or limited domains. Indeed, such efforts may be better pursuit if
> > misleading and grandiose general efforts are relinquished.
> >
> >         warmly, adam
> >
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* E L <elindblom at gmail.com>
> > *To:* list at grouptalkweb.org
> > *Sent:* Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:00 PM
> > *Subject:* The Sociatry Project
> >
> >
> > i.b.m.2, some social adam
> >
> > Thanks for your support, i.b.2! I'm shopping. I am looking for
> > nominations from people qualified to say what the diagnosis of the planet
> > could be. (I've asked: "Did Moreno diagnose the planet?") It is for the new
> > fall project, "The Sociatry Project," at Harvard. For details see ASGPP
> > forum under: "Sociatry."
> >
> > To quote i.b.Adam I, "hee, hee." Why the quote? I have no idea.
> >
> > Eric J. Lindblom PhD Harvard University (h2o)
> >
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