AW: The Sociatry Project

Sat Jun 16 13:35:20 CDT 2007

Hi Eric and Adam

my wife Natacha Navarro Roldan and me are offering  now for years
workshops on peace building community work ("How to construct peace
here and now"; working with large groups) using besides other ressorces
psychodrama and action methods for groups. Our diagnosis of the planet
focus on four basic conflicts/challenges: the dysbalance of (economic)
ressources (north-south, hunger and starvation), war and terrorism, the
climate/ecologic catastrophe, civic conflicts in the same society
(between different cultures, genders, generations etc.). After
splitting the group into subgroups by their own interest and working on
prototypical scenes/images including their enactment everybody is
making a role revearsal with her/his ideal model of being a trustful
male/female authority (which usually range between real relationships
and Jesus, Mahatma Ghandi etc.) intervening on the scenary with the
words and proposals inspired by those "alter egos". Thus it is really
fascinating to see how things can change if we put into action our own
inner wisdom. Of course this is not the whole work but it is worthwhile
to state that your fantasy, Eric, seems to target in the same
direction. Finally one of the foundation for this approach besides
psychodrama is Ghandis non-violance movement and the work of Deepak
Chopra inside this frame.

All the best, warmly

Jorge

----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----

Von: elindblom at gmail.com

Datum: 16.06.2007 18:56

An: "Adam Blatner"<adam at blatner.com>

Kopie: <list at grouptalkweb.org>

Betreff: The Sociatry Project

Adam

I thought you may have recognized that (namely DSM-IV). Very
perceptive, you know I was pulling your leg. "Ha, ha or, more acurately
hee, hee!" Diagnose The Planet! Is that a researchable question for
medicine? How about Education? (The "E" in TEP is educator. Here is
another leg-pull. Oy.)

What I don't know is if Moreno did diagnose the planet.
(Obviously, Moreno was an MD.) If so, where is that written in his
works?

Another take was that someone, this morning, asked "How would you
dramatize it?" (I'm no psychodramatist.) Here is my idea on that: http://www.mediate.com/articles/ebarker4.cfm
 In an empty chair, what would great people do? If asked,
psychodramatically, what would Gandhi say? How about Nelson Mandela? I
can email him and ask. I might. As for psychodramatizing Sociatry, that
is for someone else in the group not me. Eric

On 6/15/07, Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com> wrote:

ha ha, ... most psychiatrists I know
don't take the DSM-IV all that seriously. For certain tasks the best we
can say is that it seems better than previous versions; for other
tasks, we just do it for the insurance companies.

    But your axis 3 (which is really about co-morbid medical conditions)
        is funny... and provocative. 
      For
what's the point of diagnosis at a certain level if the "patient" has
little insight or inclination to insight?
   My point is that we
are perhaps ready to begin to promote psychological mindedness as a
foundation for further work.. and healing, and role theory can be a
user friendly language for this. Warmly, ADam

----- Original Message ----- 
From:E L
To:Adam Blatner
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: The Sociatry Project

Adam

How about this? Eric

DSM-IV
MULTIAXIAL DIAGNOSIS
(PLEASE COMPLETE ALL FIVE AXES)

AXIS I...
Dx Code..
Dx Code...

AXIS II...
Dx Code...

AXIS III...
Does patient
have current general condition potentially relevant
to understanding/ management of condition(s) in
Axis I or II? 

�� No �� Yes

AXIS IV...
Severity: current psychosocial stressors

�� None �� Low �� Moderate �� High Other ��

AXIS V: GAF Score
Highest Past Year At first Session Current
High �� �� �� �� �� Low

Modified from: State of Maryland
Uniform Treatment Plan Form

On 6/14/07, Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com> wrote:

Hi Eric, thoughts about trying to diagnose the planet, as an act of sociatry: 

I have many, many diagnoses, from the
prevalence of foolishness to the as-yet-untapped potential of a number
of good ideas and techniques.
       A
recent response, though, works from Whitehead's dictum that we should
try to make things as simple as possible, but not simpler. There are
hundreds, thousands, millions of co-morbid diagnoses---if we dare to
even play with that term, to presume to exercise our weak skills waay
beyond our knowledge.  Co-morbid means that there can be more than
one diagnosis, like a patient with diabetes AND a sprained ankle AND an
anxiety reaction because he missed a crucial meeting.

     I want to
suggest that not only is our world suffering from an information
explosion, but also there has been an explosion of new types of
information, new categories and domains of knowledge. There has been a
re-cognition of the value of considering many categories we had
marginalized, dimly recognized as existing, but generally discounted.
The needs and opinions of the less educated, less articulate, the
feelings of infants and animals, the viewpoints of people who had
generally been considered to be opponents, primitive, too elitist, too
common, or
others---i.e., "them" versus "us."  Psychic phenomena, mystical
phenomena, dreams, visions, imagination, play, the insights of
children, poets, etc.--- are becoming more respectable in our
postmodern discourse.

       The
more we open to these domains the more we begin to become sensitive to
phenomena that hadn't even been considered valid or relevant. What I'm
getting at is that mere number crunching by computers won't do it. I'm
suggesting that we've moved beyond the point of ever, ever, being able
to encompass the whole world, its problems in a myriad of domains, in
any theory, in any single person's mind. This is a change from a time
50 years or less ago---maybe even today for some folks---when people
believed that really getting an answer, even a very extensive answer,
was possible.

I would suggest that this is a kind of
"grasping," of trying to get what cannot be gotten. Such as "fairness"
in life. It is a childish residue, supported by the culture implying
that it is indeed attainable.

      The
alternative isn't simply copping out and giving up. There are yet
significant challenges that can be recognized and addressed in more
local or limited domains. Indeed, such efforts may be better pursuit if
misleading and grandiose general efforts are relinquished.

        warmly, adam  

----- Original Message ----- 
From:E L
To:list at grouptalkweb.org
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:00 PM
Subject: The Sociatry Project

i.b.m.2, some social adam

Thanks for your support, i.b.2! I'm shopping. I am looking for
nominations from people qualified to say what the diagnosis of the
planet could be. (I've asked: "Did Moreno diagnose the planet?")
It is for the new fall project, "The Sociatry Project," at Harvard. For
details see ASGPP forum under: "Sociatry."

To quote i.b.Adam I, "hee, hee." Why the quote? I have no idea.

Eric J. Lindblom PhD Harvard University (h2o)

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