List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1 magazine article-sociometry/middle east
Linda Ciotola
vegmom at closecall.com
Wed May 2 06:34:51 CDT 2007
Hello All: a few weeks ago someone mentioned an article in a magazine (The
New Republic?) written by a psychodramatist , using sociometry to examine
the middle east problems. I have looked for it without success. Could
someone please give me all the info I need to find it. Thanks so much. Linda
Ciotola
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:27:00 -0500
From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
To: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>,
<list at grouptalkweb.org>
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sounds good. Would it be helpful to articulate the concerns or issues,
edited, condensed,
re what the two subgroups were seeking to achieve? This might help many of
us identify our
own hardly-realized concerns, functioning, as it were, as a kind of
doubling.
Warmly, adam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> Hi Adam,
> To respond:
> There were 2 (at least) subgroups w/in the organization.
> They "came to a head" at the meeting. There was a great
> deal of work done before the meeting on Sunday. Nick, Ed,
> Council members, Rebecca, Louise, Nina, Natalie, Dale all
> reached out to address their concerns and feelings. When the
> two sub-groups came together in an encounter, peace was found.
> Moreno's encounter enacted in-situ in the group process.
>
> Mike Traynor was particularly helpful in standing as a bridge between
> the two groups. Ed Garcia and Nick held their presence well, with
> dignity. Passion emerged. Energy. Care. Honesty. A mix took place.
> For me, for example, I had contact/encounter with those with whom I had
> not before. It was our method in action.
>
> John Rasberry, our new President summarized it at the end by addressing
> a part of a letter to the Society from Zerka Moreno. John noted, from
her
> letter, the need to sit down together like at a table.
>
> John presented, in masterful form, the spirit of inclusion.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>
>> Good news. I'm wondering if there were any specifics that we should know
>> about sooner than the PNN, or perhaps more specifically, re: ..."altered
the
>> sociometry that was stuck." maybe or maybe not we'd be helped by
knowing
>> what was altered...
>>
>> 2. and more about: ... > ASGPP Council reached to members and held
one
>> another to a standard, in
>>> public and in private -- what standard?
>> Well, maybe nothing more needs to be said, or maybe something.
>>
>> Thanks again Ed and rosalie and all.. warmly, adam
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Thanks to the conference committee for the most outstanding
>>> example of finding our way to peace together. What an rich
>>> conference, warm, professional, honest, caring. For those unable
>>> to attend Amy Goodman as keynote speaker brought us into the
>>> world fabric, asking us to address who shall survive. The workshops
>>> were rich, deep and broad. That setting elegant, supportive and
>>> loving. The work we did as a society set the course for the next 2
>>> years with a clearly defined agenda for where we must go (less
expensive
>>> conferences and continued inclusion - and respect for our
>>> differences) and
>>> brought us closer to realizing our true work: all of humankind.
>>> The ASGPP
>>> annual meeting on Sunday morning brought us toward one another, as
>>> difficult as that was, and altered the sociometry that was stuck.
>>>
>>> Louise and Roberto as co-chairs were just wonderful as hosts and the
>>> ASGPP
>>> Council reached to members and held one another to a standard, in
>>> public and in
>>> private I am sure.
>>>
>>> For me, I went to the Conference uncertain about the future for our
>>> organization.
>>> I left feeling sure that we are on the path to realizing the dream of
>>> Dr. Moreno and
>>> Zerka Moreno: to created "democratic creatocracy". Thank you ASGPP
>>> and thank
>>> you Conference Co-Chairs and Conference Committee for holding that
>>> vision and
>>> putting it into action.
>>>
>>> Ed Schreiber
>>>
>>>
>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>
>>
>>
>> Grouptalk mailing list
>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:24 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
To: Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>, list at grouptalkweb.org
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Hi Adam,
I endorse the open society standard, I think one great advance in our
work
was offered by Mike Traynor during the meeting. He suggested that we
use the ASGPP membership forum to engage in a full discussion, ongoing,
overtime of the issues of moving forward. The issues generated
during the
ASGPP Sunday meeting were about moving forward and the particular
concerns
and dynamics that needed attention. So I support Mike's leadership
and want
to do some chatting on the ASGPP members board.
On that note, I am unsure of how to post a new topic on the site.
Does anyone know how to do that? I tried but could not.
Ed
On Apr 30, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
> sounds good. Would it be helpful to articulate the concerns or
> issues, edited, condensed, re what the two subgroups were seeking
> to achieve? This might help many of us identify our own hardly-
> realized concerns, functioning, as it were, as a kind of doubling.
> Warmly, adam
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>
>
>> Hi Adam,
>> To respond:
>> There were 2 (at least) subgroups w/in the organization.
>> They "came to a head" at the meeting. There was a great
>> deal of work done before the meeting on Sunday. Nick, Ed,
>> Council members, Rebecca, Louise, Nina, Natalie, Dale all
>> reached out to address their concerns and feelings. When the
>> two sub-groups came together in an encounter, peace was found.
>> Moreno's encounter enacted in-situ in the group process.
>>
>> Mike Traynor was particularly helpful in standing as a bridge between
>> the two groups. Ed Garcia and Nick held their presence well, with
>> dignity. Passion emerged. Energy. Care. Honesty. A mix took
>> place.
>> For me, for example, I had contact/encounter with those with whom
>> I had
>> not before. It was our method in action.
>>
>> John Rasberry, our new President summarized it at the end by
>> addressing
>> a part of a letter to the Society from Zerka Moreno. John noted,
>> from her
>> letter, the need to sit down together like at a table.
>>
>> John presented, in masterful form, the spirit of inclusion.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>>
>>> Good news. I'm wondering if there were any specifics that we
>>> should know
>>> about sooner than the PNN, or perhaps more specifically,
>>> re: ..."altered the
>>> sociometry that was stuck." maybe or maybe not we'd be helped
>>> by knowing
>>> what was altered...
>>>
>>> 2. and more about: ... > ASGPP Council reached to members
>>> and held one
>>> another to a standard, in
>>>> public and in private -- what standard?
>>> Well, maybe nothing more needs to be said, or maybe something.
>>>
>>> Thanks again Ed and rosalie and all.. warmly, adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:57 AM
>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>>
>>>
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> Thanks to the conference committee for the most outstanding
>>>> example of finding our way to peace together. What an rich
>>>> conference, warm, professional, honest, caring. For those unable
>>>> to attend Amy Goodman as keynote speaker brought us into the
>>>> world fabric, asking us to address who shall survive. The
>>>> workshops
>>>> were rich, deep and broad. That setting elegant, supportive and
>>>> loving. The work we did as a society set the course for the next 2
>>>> years with a clearly defined agenda for where we must go (less
>>>> expensive
>>>> conferences and continued inclusion - and respect for our
>>>> differences) and
>>>> brought us closer to realizing our true work: all of humankind.
>>>> The ASGPP
>>>> annual meeting on Sunday morning brought us toward one another, as
>>>> difficult as that was, and altered the sociometry that was stuck.
>>>>
>>>> Louise and Roberto as co-chairs were just wonderful as hosts and
>>>> the
>>>> ASGPP
>>>> Council reached to members and held one another to a standard, in
>>>> public and in
>>>> private I am sure.
>>>>
>>>> For me, I went to the Conference uncertain about the future for our
>>>> organization.
>>>> I left feeling sure that we are on the path to realizing the
>>>> dream of
>>>> Dr. Moreno and
>>>> Zerka Moreno: to created "democratic creatocracy". Thank you
>>>> ASGPP
>>>> and thank
>>>> you Conference Co-Chairs and Conference Committee for holding that
>>>> vision and
>>>> putting it into action.
>>>>
>>>> Ed Schreiber
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database:
>> 269.6.2/781 - Release Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:41:13 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: psychodrama conferences
To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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Karen,
I missed you at the conference!
Ed
On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Karen Carnabucci wrote:
> See query below, about interest in psychodrama confererences and
> events in Texas.
> Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP
> Companions In Healing
>
> Lake House Health & Learning Center
> 932 Lake Ave.
> Racine, WI 53403
>
> (262) 633-2645
> karen at companionsinhealing.com
>
> www.lakehousecenter.com
> www.companionsinhealing.com
>
>
>
>
> From: Masih, Victoria S. [mailto:Victoria.Masih at va.gov]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:00 AM
> To: Karen Carnabucci
> Subject: psychodrama conferences
>
> Dear Karen, I am interested in learning about psychodrama. I think
> it will be a tremendous asset for me in working with veterans in
> dealing with their PTSD issues. I am currently living in Temple,
> Texas which is close to Dallas and Austin and San Antonio. Do you
> know of any conferences in the vicinity this summer that I may be
> able to go to? By the way I graduated from University of Wisconsin
> at Parkside several years ago.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Victoria Masih, LCSW
>
> Grouptalk mailing list
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:32:08 -0500
From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
To: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org
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Dear Ed,
Actually, there have been a few emails out from Nick Wolff over the last
year about the
forum. I spoke with Mike Traynor about the Forum and noted that it's hard to
get on and
very few people seemed to use it---that's why I prefer Grouptalk. I said
that if I knew
there were some folks reading and contributing, I might put up with the
hassle and use
that format, but so far when I've checked it, so little has been posted.
I wonder how many others want to use that medium. I'd play if
others would, too.
You might ask Mike to re-submit the instructions yet again, because
I've found that
one must be persistent in informing a social group about an upcoming event
or new
resource, reminding everyone at least three times, and then repeating the
announcement
every 6 months or so.
Warmly, adam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> Hi Adam,
> I endorse the open society standard, I think one great advance in our
work
> was offered by Mike Traynor during the meeting. He suggested that we
> use the ASGPP membership forum to engage in a full discussion, ongoing,
> overtime of the issues of moving forward. The issues generated during
the
> ASGPP Sunday meeting were about moving forward and the particular
concerns
> and dynamics that needed attention. So I support Mike's leadership and
want
> to do some chatting on the ASGPP members board.
>
> On that note, I am unsure of how to post a new topic on the site.
>
> Does anyone know how to do that? I tried but could not.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>
>> sounds good. Would it be helpful to articulate the concerns or issues,
edited,
>> condensed, re what the two subgroups were seeking to achieve? This might
help many of
>> us identify our own hardly- realized concerns, functioning, as it were,
as a kind of
>> doubling.
>> Warmly, adam
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
<edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>
>>
>>> Hi Adam,
>>> To respond:
>>> There were 2 (at least) subgroups w/in the organization.
>>> They "came to a head" at the meeting. There was a great
>>> deal of work done before the meeting on Sunday. Nick, Ed,
>>> Council members, Rebecca, Louise, Nina, Natalie, Dale all
>>> reached out to address their concerns and feelings. When the
>>> two sub-groups came together in an encounter, peace was found.
>>> Moreno's encounter enacted in-situ in the group process.
>>>
>>> Mike Traynor was particularly helpful in standing as a bridge between
>>> the two groups. Ed Garcia and Nick held their presence well, with
>>> dignity. Passion emerged. Energy. Care. Honesty. A mix took place.
>>> For me, for example, I had contact/encounter with those with whom I had
>>> not before. It was our method in action.
>>>
>>> John Rasberry, our new President summarized it at the end by addressing
>>> a part of a letter to the Society from Zerka Moreno. John noted, from
her
>>> letter, the need to sit down together like at a table.
>>>
>>> John presented, in masterful form, the spirit of inclusion.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good news. I'm wondering if there were any specifics that we should
know
>>>> about sooner than the PNN, or perhaps more specifically, re:
..."altered the
>>>> sociometry that was stuck." maybe or maybe not we'd be helped by
knowing
>>>> what was altered...
>>>>
>>>> 2. and more about: ... > ASGPP Council reached to members and
held one
>>>> another to a standard, in
>>>>> public and in private -- what standard?
>>>> Well, maybe nothing more needs to be said, or maybe something.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again Ed and rosalie and all.. warmly, adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:57 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>> Thanks to the conference committee for the most outstanding
>>>>> example of finding our way to peace together. What an rich
>>>>> conference, warm, professional, honest, caring. For those unable
>>>>> to attend Amy Goodman as keynote speaker brought us into the
>>>>> world fabric, asking us to address who shall survive. The workshops
>>>>> were rich, deep and broad. That setting elegant, supportive and
>>>>> loving. The work we did as a society set the course for the next 2
>>>>> years with a clearly defined agenda for where we must go (less
expensive
>>>>> conferences and continued inclusion - and respect for our
>>>>> differences) and
>>>>> brought us closer to realizing our true work: all of humankind.
>>>>> The ASGPP
>>>>> annual meeting on Sunday morning brought us toward one another, as
>>>>> difficult as that was, and altered the sociometry that was stuck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Louise and Roberto as co-chairs were just wonderful as hosts and the
>>>>> ASGPP
>>>>> Council reached to members and held one another to a standard, in
>>>>> public and in
>>>>> private I am sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me, I went to the Conference uncertain about the future for our
>>>>> organization.
>>>>> I left feeling sure that we are on the path to realizing the dream of
>>>>> Dr. Moreno and
>>>>> Zerka Moreno: to created "democratic creatocracy". Thank you ASGPP
>>>>> and thank
>>>>> you Conference Co-Chairs and Conference Committee for holding that
>>>>> vision and
>>>>> putting it into action.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed Schreiber
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database:
269.6.2/781 - Release
>>> Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM
>>
>
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database:
269.6.2/781 - Release
> Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:47:48 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
To: Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>, list at grouptalkweb.org
Message-ID: <49070A3E-A407-456E-B9E4-FB0DCD9F8711 at earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Dear Adam,
Yes, I feel the same about Grouptalk! It is so damn easy to use.
But for ongoing long term discussions, the ASGPP is asking us to use
the site's discussion board. So I want to support that request and
think
it makes a lot of sense!
Ed
On Apr 30, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
> Dear Ed,
> Actually, there have been a few emails out from Nick Wolff over
> the last year about the forum. I spoke with Mike Traynor about the
> Forum and noted that it's hard to get on and very few people seemed
> to use it---that's why I prefer Grouptalk. I said that if I knew
> there were some folks reading and contributing, I might put up with
> the hassle and use that format, but so far when I've checked it, so
> little has been posted.
> I wonder how many others want to use that medium. I'd play
> if others would, too.
>
> You might ask Mike to re-submit the instructions yet again,
> because I've found that one must be persistent in informing a
> social group about an upcoming event or new resource, reminding
> everyone at least three times, and then repeating the announcement
> every 6 months or so.
>
> Warmly, adam
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:27 PM
> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>
>
>> Hi Adam,
>> I endorse the open society standard, I think one great advance in
>> our work
>> was offered by Mike Traynor during the meeting. He suggested that we
>> use the ASGPP membership forum to engage in a full discussion,
>> ongoing,
>> overtime of the issues of moving forward. The issues generated
>> during the
>> ASGPP Sunday meeting were about moving forward and the particular
>> concerns
>> and dynamics that needed attention. So I support Mike's
>> leadership and want
>> to do some chatting on the ASGPP members board.
>>
>> On that note, I am unsure of how to post a new topic on the site.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to do that? I tried but could not.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>>
>>> sounds good. Would it be helpful to articulate the concerns or
>>> issues, edited, condensed, re what the two subgroups were
>>> seeking to achieve? This might help many of us identify our own
>>> hardly- realized concerns, functioning, as it were, as a kind of
>>> doubling.
>>> Warmly, adam
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
>>> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:23 AM
>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>> To respond:
>>>> There were 2 (at least) subgroups w/in the organization.
>>>> They "came to a head" at the meeting. There was a great
>>>> deal of work done before the meeting on Sunday. Nick, Ed,
>>>> Council members, Rebecca, Louise, Nina, Natalie, Dale all
>>>> reached out to address their concerns and feelings. When the
>>>> two sub-groups came together in an encounter, peace was found.
>>>> Moreno's encounter enacted in-situ in the group process.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Traynor was particularly helpful in standing as a bridge
>>>> between
>>>> the two groups. Ed Garcia and Nick held their presence well, with
>>>> dignity. Passion emerged. Energy. Care. Honesty. A mix
>>>> took place.
>>>> For me, for example, I had contact/encounter with those with
>>>> whom I had
>>>> not before. It was our method in action.
>>>>
>>>> John Rasberry, our new President summarized it at the end by
>>>> addressing
>>>> a part of a letter to the Society from Zerka Moreno. John
>>>> noted, from her
>>>> letter, the need to sit down together like at a table.
>>>>
>>>> John presented, in masterful form, the spirit of inclusion.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good news. I'm wondering if there were any specifics that we
>>>>> should know
>>>>> about sooner than the PNN, or perhaps more specifically,
>>>>> re: ..."altered the
>>>>> sociometry that was stuck." maybe or maybe not we'd be
>>>>> helped by knowing
>>>>> what was altered...
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. and more about: ... > ASGPP Council reached to members
>>>>> and held one
>>>>> another to a standard, in
>>>>>> public and in private -- what standard?
>>>>> Well, maybe nothing more needs to be said, or maybe
>>>>> something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again Ed and rosalie and all.. warmly, adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:57 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>> Thanks to the conference committee for the most outstanding
>>>>>> example of finding our way to peace together. What an rich
>>>>>> conference, warm, professional, honest, caring. For those unable
>>>>>> to attend Amy Goodman as keynote speaker brought us into the
>>>>>> world fabric, asking us to address who shall survive. The
>>>>>> workshops
>>>>>> were rich, deep and broad. That setting elegant, supportive and
>>>>>> loving. The work we did as a society set the course for the
>>>>>> next 2
>>>>>> years with a clearly defined agenda for where we must go
>>>>>> (less expensive
>>>>>> conferences and continued inclusion - and respect for our
>>>>>> differences) and
>>>>>> brought us closer to realizing our true work: all of humankind.
>>>>>> The ASGPP
>>>>>> annual meeting on Sunday morning brought us toward one
>>>>>> another, as
>>>>>> difficult as that was, and altered the sociometry that was stuck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Louise and Roberto as co-chairs were just wonderful as hosts
>>>>>> and the
>>>>>> ASGPP
>>>>>> Council reached to members and held one another to a standard, in
>>>>>> public and in
>>>>>> private I am sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For me, I went to the Conference uncertain about the future
>>>>>> for our
>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>> I left feeling sure that we are on the path to realizing the
>>>>>> dream of
>>>>>> Dr. Moreno and
>>>>>> Zerka Moreno: to created "democratic creatocracy". Thank
>>>>>> you ASGPP
>>>>>> and thank
>>>>>> you Conference Co-Chairs and Conference Committee for holding
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> vision and
>>>>>> putting it into action.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed Schreiber
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> 269.6.2/781 - Release Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database:
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:59:52 -0500
From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
To: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Cc: Midsouthcenter at aol.com, list at grouptalkweb.org, Suzie Jary
<sjary at mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <01a001c78b7b$43eecbf0$2f01a8c0 at ablatner>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
Well, if they want us to use the forum, they should make it easy. Put out
the announcements on how to use it. Put them out again. Recruit five people
who will post an issue from the executive committee. Request responses. Have
messages from the president.
Have each person on the exec committee introduce him/herself and what
s/he wants to talk about, do, and get feedback about. What subcommittee
responsibilities do they take on.
See if you can recruit five people with whom you've had good tele to
join you in this project. Better, ten or fifteen.
Do we know who the exec council is, their old and new subcommittee
assignments, if any have changed; their email addresses? That would be good.
Sue Barnum is moving or has moved to New Mexico. A loss for Texas. Has she
changed her email addrress yet?
Have Mike Traynor and our new president and others get involved in
promoting involvements.
Then let's see how much momentum it gains, or if it peters out.
What do you think about that?
Warmly, Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> Dear Adam,
> Yes, I feel the same about Grouptalk! It is so damn easy to use.
> But for ongoing long term discussions, the ASGPP is asking us to use
> the site's discussion board. So I want to support that request and think
> it makes a lot of sense!
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> On Apr 30, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>
>> Dear Ed,
>> Actually, there have been a few emails out from Nick Wolff over the
>> last year about the forum. I spoke with Mike Traynor about the Forum and
>> noted that it's hard to get on and very few people seemed to use
>> it---that's why I prefer Grouptalk. I said that if I knew there were
>> some folks reading and contributing, I might put up with the hassle and
>> use that format, but so far when I've checked it, so little has been
>> posted.
>> I wonder how many others want to use that medium. I'd play if
>> others would, too.
>>
>> You might ask Mike to re-submit the instructions yet again, because
>> I've found that one must be persistent in informing a social group about
>> an upcoming event or new resource, reminding everyone at least three
>> times, and then repeating the announcement every 6 months or so.
>>
>> Warmly, adam
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
>> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>
>>
>>> Hi Adam,
>>> I endorse the open society standard, I think one great advance in our
>>> work
>>> was offered by Mike Traynor during the meeting. He suggested that we
>>> use the ASGPP membership forum to engage in a full discussion, ongoing,
>>> overtime of the issues of moving forward. The issues generated during
>>> the
>>> ASGPP Sunday meeting were about moving forward and the particular
>>> concerns
>>> and dynamics that needed attention. So I support Mike's leadership
>>> and want
>>> to do some chatting on the ASGPP members board.
>>>
>>> On that note, I am unsure of how to post a new topic on the site.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how to do that? I tried but could not.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>>>
>>>> sounds good. Would it be helpful to articulate the concerns or
>>>> issues, edited, condensed, re what the two subgroups were seeking to
>>>> achieve? This might help many of us identify our own hardly- realized
>>>> concerns, functioning, as it were, as a kind of doubling.
>>>> Warmly, adam
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
>>>> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:23 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>> To respond:
>>>>> There were 2 (at least) subgroups w/in the organization.
>>>>> They "came to a head" at the meeting. There was a great
>>>>> deal of work done before the meeting on Sunday. Nick, Ed,
>>>>> Council members, Rebecca, Louise, Nina, Natalie, Dale all
>>>>> reached out to address their concerns and feelings. When the
>>>>> two sub-groups came together in an encounter, peace was found.
>>>>> Moreno's encounter enacted in-situ in the group process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Traynor was particularly helpful in standing as a bridge between
>>>>> the two groups. Ed Garcia and Nick held their presence well, with
>>>>> dignity. Passion emerged. Energy. Care. Honesty. A mix took
>>>>> place.
>>>>> For me, for example, I had contact/encounter with those with whom I
>>>>> had
>>>>> not before. It was our method in action.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Rasberry, our new President summarized it at the end by
>>>>> addressing
>>>>> a part of a letter to the Society from Zerka Moreno. John noted,
>>>>> from her
>>>>> letter, the need to sit down together like at a table.
>>>>>
>>>>> John presented, in masterful form, the spirit of inclusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good news. I'm wondering if there were any specifics that we should
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> about sooner than the PNN, or perhaps more specifically, re:
>>>>>> ..."altered the
>>>>>> sociometry that was stuck." maybe or maybe not we'd be helped by
>>>>>> knowing
>>>>>> what was altered...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. and more about: ... > ASGPP Council reached to members and
>>>>>> held one
>>>>>> another to a standard, in
>>>>>>> public and in private -- what standard?
>>>>>> Well, maybe nothing more needs to be said, or maybe something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again Ed and rosalie and all.. warmly, adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:57 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>> Thanks to the conference committee for the most outstanding
>>>>>>> example of finding our way to peace together. What an rich
>>>>>>> conference, warm, professional, honest, caring. For those unable
>>>>>>> to attend Amy Goodman as keynote speaker brought us into the
>>>>>>> world fabric, asking us to address who shall survive. The
>>>>>>> workshops
>>>>>>> were rich, deep and broad. That setting elegant, supportive and
>>>>>>> loving. The work we did as a society set the course for the next 2
>>>>>>> years with a clearly defined agenda for where we must go (less
>>>>>>> expensive
>>>>>>> conferences and continued inclusion - and respect for our
>>>>>>> differences) and
>>>>>>> brought us closer to realizing our true work: all of humankind.
>>>>>>> The ASGPP
>>>>>>> annual meeting on Sunday morning brought us toward one another, as
>>>>>>> difficult as that was, and altered the sociometry that was stuck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Louise and Roberto as co-chairs were just wonderful as hosts and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> ASGPP
>>>>>>> Council reached to members and held one another to a standard, in
>>>>>>> public and in
>>>>>>> private I am sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For me, I went to the Conference uncertain about the future for our
>>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>>> I left feeling sure that we are on the path to realizing the dream
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> Dr. Moreno and
>>>>>>> Zerka Moreno: to created "democratic creatocracy". Thank you
>>>>>>> ASGPP
>>>>>>> and thank
>>>>>>> you Conference Co-Chairs and Conference Committee for holding that
>>>>>>> vision and
>>>>>>> putting it into action.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed Schreiber
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database:
>>>>> 269.6.2/781 - Release Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database:
>>> 269.6.2/781 - Release Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM
>>>
>>
>
>
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:08:31 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org
Message-ID: <75CF72DE-4010-46A3-9B74-6279D7905BC4 at earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
I think the direction, intent, motion and emotion of the council is
clearly to move the ASGPP forward.
I feel really good about all the conversations I had, with Ed G, with
John R, with Mike and others. It
is time to gather around and lend a hand, in my opinion. At least
that's my intent!
Ed
On Apr 30, 2007, at 6:59 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
> Well, if they want us to use the forum, they should make it easy.
> Put out the announcements on how to use it. Put them out again.
> Recruit five people who will post an issue from the executive
> committee. Request responses. Have messages from the president.
> Have each person on the exec committee introduce him/herself and
> what s/he wants to talk about, do, and get feedback about. What
> subcommittee responsibilities do they take on.
> See if you can recruit five people with whom you've had good
> tele to join you in this project. Better, ten or fifteen.
> Do we know who the exec council is, their old and new subcommittee
> assignments, if any have changed; their email addresses? That would
> be good. Sue Barnum is moving or has moved to New Mexico. A loss
> for Texas. Has she changed her email addrress yet?
>
> Have Mike Traynor and our new president and others get involved
> in promoting involvements.
>
> Then let's see how much momentum it gains, or if it peters out.
>
> What do you think about that?
> Warmly, Adam
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:47 PM
> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>
>
>> Dear Adam,
>> Yes, I feel the same about Grouptalk! It is so damn easy to use.
>> But for ongoing long term discussions, the ASGPP is asking us to use
>> the site's discussion board. So I want to support that request
>> and think
>> it makes a lot of sense!
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Ed,
>>> Actually, there have been a few emails out from Nick Wolff
>>> over the last year about the forum. I spoke with Mike Traynor
>>> about the Forum and noted that it's hard to get on and very few
>>> people seemed to use it---that's why I prefer Grouptalk. I said
>>> that if I knew there were some folks reading and contributing, I
>>> might put up with the hassle and use that format, but so far
>>> when I've checked it, so little has been posted.
>>> I wonder how many others want to use that medium. I'd
>>> play if others would, too.
>>>
>>> You might ask Mike to re-submit the instructions yet again,
>>> because I've found that one must be persistent in informing a
>>> social group about an upcoming event or new resource, reminding
>>> everyone at least three times, and then repeating the
>>> announcement every 6 months or so.
>>>
>>> Warmly, adam
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
>>> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>> I endorse the open society standard, I think one great advance
>>>> in our work
>>>> was offered by Mike Traynor during the meeting. He suggested
>>>> that we
>>>> use the ASGPP membership forum to engage in a full discussion,
>>>> ongoing,
>>>> overtime of the issues of moving forward. The issues
>>>> generated during the
>>>> ASGPP Sunday meeting were about moving forward and the
>>>> particular concerns
>>>> and dynamics that needed attention. So I support Mike's
>>>> leadership and want
>>>> to do some chatting on the ASGPP members board.
>>>>
>>>> On that note, I am unsure of how to post a new topic on the site.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know how to do that? I tried but could not.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> sounds good. Would it be helpful to articulate the concerns or
>>>>> issues, edited, condensed, re what the two subgroups were
>>>>> seeking to achieve? This might help many of us identify our
>>>>> own hardly- realized concerns, functioning, as it were, as a
>>>>> kind of doubling.
>>>>> Warmly, adam
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
>>>>> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:23 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>>> To respond:
>>>>>> There were 2 (at least) subgroups w/in the organization.
>>>>>> They "came to a head" at the meeting. There was a great
>>>>>> deal of work done before the meeting on Sunday. Nick, Ed,
>>>>>> Council members, Rebecca, Louise, Nina, Natalie, Dale all
>>>>>> reached out to address their concerns and feelings. When the
>>>>>> two sub-groups came together in an encounter, peace was found.
>>>>>> Moreno's encounter enacted in-situ in the group process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Traynor was particularly helpful in standing as a bridge
>>>>>> between
>>>>>> the two groups. Ed Garcia and Nick held their presence well,
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> dignity. Passion emerged. Energy. Care. Honesty. A mix
>>>>>> took place.
>>>>>> For me, for example, I had contact/encounter with those with
>>>>>> whom I had
>>>>>> not before. It was our method in action.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Rasberry, our new President summarized it at the end by
>>>>>> addressing
>>>>>> a part of a letter to the Society from Zerka Moreno. John
>>>>>> noted, from her
>>>>>> letter, the need to sit down together like at a table.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John presented, in masterful form, the spirit of inclusion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good news. I'm wondering if there were any specifics that
>>>>>>> we should know
>>>>>>> about sooner than the PNN, or perhaps more specifically,
>>>>>>> re: ..."altered the
>>>>>>> sociometry that was stuck." maybe or maybe not we'd be
>>>>>>> helped by knowing
>>>>>>> what was altered...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. and more about: ... > ASGPP Council reached to
>>>>>>> members and held one
>>>>>>> another to a standard, in
>>>>>>>> public and in private -- what standard?
>>>>>>> Well, maybe nothing more needs to be said, or maybe
>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again Ed and rosalie and all.. warmly, adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:57 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>> Thanks to the conference committee for the most outstanding
>>>>>>>> example of finding our way to peace together. What an rich
>>>>>>>> conference, warm, professional, honest, caring. For those
>>>>>>>> unable
>>>>>>>> to attend Amy Goodman as keynote speaker brought us into the
>>>>>>>> world fabric, asking us to address who shall survive. The
>>>>>>>> workshops
>>>>>>>> were rich, deep and broad. That setting elegant, supportive
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> loving. The work we did as a society set the course for
>>>>>>>> the next 2
>>>>>>>> years with a clearly defined agenda for where we must go
>>>>>>>> (less expensive
>>>>>>>> conferences and continued inclusion - and respect for our
>>>>>>>> differences) and
>>>>>>>> brought us closer to realizing our true work: all of
>>>>>>>> humankind.
>>>>>>>> The ASGPP
>>>>>>>> annual meeting on Sunday morning brought us toward one
>>>>>>>> another, as
>>>>>>>> difficult as that was, and altered the sociometry that was
>>>>>>>> stuck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Louise and Roberto as co-chairs were just wonderful as
>>>>>>>> hosts and the
>>>>>>>> ASGPP
>>>>>>>> Council reached to members and held one another to a
>>>>>>>> standard, in
>>>>>>>> public and in
>>>>>>>> private I am sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For me, I went to the Conference uncertain about the future
>>>>>>>> for our
>>>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>>>> I left feeling sure that we are on the path to realizing
>>>>>>>> the dream of
>>>>>>>> Dr. Moreno and
>>>>>>>> Zerka Moreno: to created "democratic creatocracy". Thank
>>>>>>>> you ASGPP
>>>>>>>> and thank
>>>>>>>> you Conference Co-Chairs and Conference Committee for
>>>>>>>> holding that
>>>>>>>> vision and
>>>>>>>> putting it into action.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ed Schreiber
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus
>>>>>> Database: 269.6.2/781 - Release Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database:
>>>> 269.6.2/781 - Release Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:56:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: "T.Treadwell" <ttreadwe at grouptalkweb.org>
Subject: Psychodrama Bibliography - New Home
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Jim Sacks Psychodrama Bibliography has moved to a new residence. You may
access the bibliography at this address: Please bookmark this address.
http://pdbib.org/
The old address will be de-activiated shortly.
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