Grouptalk and International Connections
CGayle
cgayle at zipcon.com
Wed May 2 15:38:48 CDT 2007
I will sign into asgpp forum, but wanted to add a note that that would not
be an international listserv as grouptalk, I would assume. (except for the
few international asgpp members)
I have been on this list for at least 9 years. I have very much enjoyed,
appreciated and learned a great deal from people from around the world. In
fact, I have learned there is much going on around the world not going on in
usa that is exciting to me, and sometimes more exciting to me. (eg, re:
sociodrama and sociatry).
Although, I also assume, that people around the world may be tired of
hearing the use of list for asgpp issues.
I hope we can use both lists. ASGPP issues on the forum, while keeping the
international discussion going on Grouptalk.
Cynthia Gayle, CP
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam M. Barcroft" <amb1 at hughes.net>
To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 2
> To respond to ab (not amb, that would be myself):
>
> ab: I told Michael and others that I'd like to know that
> there are 10 - 15 people who
> are really willing to play the game before I put out the energy and
> effort to get on the
> Forum.
> Who's on? How many people are checking in? How oftern?
> So I wouldn't make a point and discover to my chagrin
> that I'm talking to
> nobody.
> Or nobody answers or responds.
>
> Hm? Warmly, Adam
>
> amb: my gut tells me to worry less about the details, just join the
> collective to check in there sometimes, maybe it will grow.
>
> At the conference GPPS Journal meeting workshop we had to move rooms
> in the middle, and that's what we ended up asking the journal to do:
> be flexible and open to artistic representations of psychodrama (e.g.
> poetry, essays, narratives), not only the scientific. Like changing
> rooms.
>
> For me it is more about helping to arouse, stimulate, and cajole
> (dare I say inspire) our collective talent in places like the ASGPP
> Mirror Forum which is unlike grouptalk in many ways.
> First, that forum allows for posts to appear in order, without the
> common list-serve limitation of posting the same list of emails among
> the new postings. The threads are, in my opinion, harder to follow
> than on the Forum format, and in the Forum there can be many topics
> or subgroups talking about, preparing, planning, and having influence
> in specific areas, according to our strengths and interests.
> Conference planning, International relations, national or north
> american networking, and so on. So many subgroups just out of what
> we already know,
> I just want to help activate our creativity by asking as a student
> and an occasional observer of the obvious. In effect, I am asking US
> ALL if we might check into the ASGPP Forums, to make a truly fresh
> and potentially significant move, to "change rooms" from Group-talk
> to The Mirror Forum, where we will discuss ASGPP issues, action
> planning, and other matters of significance to the organization, or
> any other topic area people wish to create or participate in.
>
> Let's see what might start to happen now.
> I have been warming up for years for this, maybe others are ready too.
> I'm not saying I am going to be on the Mirror Forum all the time,
> but I do prefer to write there more than I do on Group_talk.
> that's just my preference for what i think is a much better organized
> and accessible format (meaning easy to read, without the listserves
> list of emails attached to every email, and with designated folders
> and topic areas). People can make a folder that is just psychodrama
> poetry, and so on. We have plenty of ideas and initiative, I know
> it's true because I know many of you, and there are many more
> hundreds of you who could give voice to all the things you'd like to
> say to support this organization, from time to time, or more often,
> as long as it follows the guidelines on the first posting of the
> Mirror Forum. We have so many connections between us, let's try an
> experiment:
> we actually try to activate the hidden connections between us, in
> digispace,
> by using the Forum as a groundswelling of inspiration.
> If we are very lucky we may find some e-tele, of the most respectful
> kind.
>
> Group-Talk is a great example.
>
> Okay, enough already, I guess I've said my piece about the new Forum
> format.
>
> Phew. I feel like I'm stepping off a soapbox.
>
> Thanks for your support adam...see you (and you!) here and over
> there, at the Forum.
>
>
> amb
>
>
>
>
> in the GPPS journal for students and artistic work It seems to
> me like
> On May 2, 2007, at 7:44 AM, list-request at grouptalkweb.org wrote:
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> > 1. ABE HAS A WEBSITE (ABE Psychodrama)
> > 2. Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> > 3. The Hidden Moreno (Edward Schreiber)
> > 4. Re: The Hidden Moreno (Edward Schreiber)
> > 5. Re: The Hidden Moreno (Adam Blatner)
> > 6. Re: The Hidden Moreno (Edward Schreiber)
> > 7. Re: The Hidden Moreno (Edward Schreiber)
> > 8. promoting psychodrama (Adam Blatner)
> > 9. ASGPP Member Mirror Forum Invitation (Adam M. Barcroft)
> > 10. Re: Autobio/Genius (Edward Schreiber)
> > 11. Re: Autobio/Genius (Edward Schreiber)
> > 12. (HV Psychodrama)
> > 13. Re: (Edward Schreiber)
> > 14. warmup to ASGPP 08 (Adam Blatner)
> > 15. Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE (T.Treadwell)
> > 16. Re: ASGPP Member Mirror Forum Invitation (Adam Blatner)
> > 17. Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE (NatalieLW3 at aol.com)
> > 18. My Experience in Brooklyn's ASGPP Meeting (BARNETT WEISS)
> > 19. Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE (T.Treadwell)
> > 20. Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE (NatalieLW3 at aol.com)
> > 21. Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE (Edward Schreiber)
> > 22. RE: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1 magazine
> > article-sociometry/middle east (Linda Ciotola)
> > 23. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1 magazine
> > article-sociometry/middle east (Edward Schreiber)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 10:48:42 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: ABE Psychodrama <abepsychodrama at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: ABE HAS A WEBSITE
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <201000.73876.qm at web90405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Just to remind each of you that the American Board of
> > Examiners in Psychodrama, Sociometry and Group
> > Psychotherapy (ABE) has a website. You can reach it
> > at psychodramacertfication.org. We also have a link
> > to
> > grouptalk and hope that grouptalk will also have a
> > link to us.
> > Our new website is now open to our members. It will
> > be open to trainees and the general public by May 1st.
> > We have not completed all the homepage features yet,
> > and the site will not be functional until enough of
> > our members logon and allow release of their
> > information to the public.
> >
> > If you are certified by us go to
> > www.psychodramacertification.org to log in. Click on
> > to ?Members Login here? (it is at the right side
> > bottom of the blue header). Once there enter your
> > userid (your ID is the first initial of your first
> > name and your last name all in small letters, e.g.,
> > dbuchanan). Then ask for help with pass code. Follow
> > the instructions and your passcode will be sent to
> > your email address.
> >
> > Once entered you will go to ?my start page? and see
> > the information we entered for you. We entered what
> > was in the directory last year. In order for the
> > general public to view your information you will need
> > to click the box that allows for public access. If
> > you do not allow public access then only other
> > certified members will be able to access your
> > information. You can also change your passcode in
> > this private "your eyes only" section.
> >
> > You will be able to write a 500-word profile of your
> > practice and your biography so that individuals will
> > know who you are and your areas of interest. Persons
> > can search by keyword and if, for instance, you
> > include "sociodrama" in your profile then your name
> > will pop up when people insert the keyword
> > "sociodrama." You may also post training workshops on
> > the calendar.
> >
> > We are very excited about the possibilities offered by
> > this new website. You can market your services and
> > network with your peers. Trainees can download, for
> > no charge, applications for the CP, PAT and TEP
> > process.
> >
> > The general public will be able to search for and find
> > certified psychodramatists who offer training,
> > therapy, sociodrama, etc.
> >
> > We also believe that our website will significantly
> > increase the visibility of psychodrama and of
> > certified psychodramatists.
> >
> > Peace, Dale
> >
> > Dale Richard Buchanan, Ph.D., T.E.P.
> > Executive Director, American Board of Examiners in
> > Psychodrama,
> > Sociometry and Group Psychotherapy
> > 202-483-0514
> > abepsychodrama at yahoo.com
> > www.psychodramacertification.org
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 13:54:13 -0400
> > From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
> > Subject: Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <C4F19BD6-BFE4-4F64-99F0-1AFDA51813FF at mac.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > Hey Dale
> >
> > I tried khudgins but it said there was no member by that name.
> > Help? Kate
> >
> > On May 1, 2007, at 1:48 PM, ABE Psychodrama wrote:
> >
> >> Just to remind each of you that the American Board of
> >> Examiners in Psychodrama, Sociometry and Group
> >> Psychotherapy (ABE) has a website. You can reach it
> >> at psychodramacertfication.org. We also have a link
> >> to
> >> grouptalk and hope that grouptalk will also have a
> >> link to us.
> >> Our new website is now open to our members. It will
> >> be open to trainees and the general public by May 1st.
> >> We have not completed all the homepage features yet,
> >> and the site will not be functional until enough of
> >> our members logon and allow release of their
> >> information to the public.
> >>
> >> If you are certified by us go to
> >> www.psychodramacertification.org to log in. Click on
> >> to ?Members Login here? (it is at the right side
> >> bottom of the blue header). Once there enter your
> >> userid (your ID is the first initial of your first
> >> name and your last name all in small letters, e.g.,
> >> dbuchanan). Then ask for help with pass code. Follow
> >> the instructions and your passcode will be sent to
> >> your email address.
> >>
> >> Once entered you will go to ?my start page? and see
> >> the information we entered for you. We entered what
> >> was in the directory last year. In order for the
> >> general public to view your information you will need
> >> to click the box that allows for public access. If
> >> you do not allow public access then only other
> >> certified members will be able to access your
> >> information. You can also change your passcode in
> >> this private "your eyes only" section.
> >>
> >> You will be able to write a 500-word profile of your
> >> practice and your biography so that individuals will
> >> know who you are and your areas of interest. Persons
> >> can search by keyword and if, for instance, you
> >> include "sociodrama" in your profile then your name
> >> will pop up when people insert the keyword
> >> "sociodrama." You may also post training workshops on
> >> the calendar.
> >>
> >> We are very excited about the possibilities offered by
> >> this new website. You can market your services and
> >> network with your peers. Trainees can download, for
> >> no charge, applications for the CP, PAT and TEP
> >> process.
> >>
> >> The general public will be able to search for and find
> >> certified psychodramatists who offer training,
> >> therapy, sociodrama, etc.
> >>
> >> We also believe that our website will significantly
> >> increase the visibility of psychodrama and of
> >> certified psychodramatists.
> >>
> >> Peace, Dale
> >>
> >> Dale Richard Buchanan, Ph.D., T.E.P.
> >> Executive Director, American Board of Examiners in
> >> Psychodrama,
> >> Sociometry and Group Psychotherapy
> >> 202-483-0514
> >> abepsychodrama at yahoo.com
> >> www.psychodramacertification.org
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> Do You Yahoo!?
> >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> >> http://mail.yahoo.com
> >>
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> >
> > Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
> >
> > Clinical Psychologist
> > Director of Training
> > Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
> > ww.therapeuticspiral.org
> > drkatetsi at mac.com
> >
> >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:10:10 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: The Hidden Moreno
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> > Dear Colleagues,
> >
> > My post-conference research work with this Foundation
> > we've started is about Moreno's unpublished articles which
> > we were 'gifted' some time ago.
> >
> > Here's something that just came to my attention from one
> > article about Sociometry:
> >
> >
> > SOCIOMETRY
> >
> > In order to rebuild our world order sociometric methods have to be
> > applied on a world wide scale.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nice frame from Dr. Moreno for what are work is about and what we
> > have on our plate.
> >
> > Might be cool to have a "world-wide conference" bringing many
> > Morenean practitioners together
> >
> > at one time and in one place!
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:14:15 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: The Hidden Moreno
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <14E55FC4-259A-4F0B-AFDF-8FF651CE2A51 at earthlink.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Correction, should read:
> >> Nice frame from Dr. Moreno for what our work
> >
> >
> > On May 1, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Colleagues,
> >>
> >> My post-conference research work with this Foundation
> >> we've started is about Moreno's unpublished articles which
> >> we were 'gifted' some time ago.
> >>
> >> Here's something that just came to my attention from one
> >> article about Sociometry:
> >>
> >>
> >> SOCIOMETRY
> >>
> >> In order to rebuild our world order sociometric methods have to be
> >> applied on a world wide scale.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Nice frame from Dr. Moreno for what are work is about and what we
> >> have on our plate.
> >>
> >> Might be cool to have a "world-wide conference" bringing many
> >> Morenean practitioners together
> >>
> >> at one time and in one place!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >> Grouptalk mailing list
> >> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 13:51:34 -0500
> > From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> > Subject: Re: The Hidden Moreno
> > To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> > Message-ID: <000f01c78c21$be4c0150$2e01a8c0 at desktop>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Ed Schreiber mentions: "post-conference research work with this
> > Foundation we've started is about Moreno's unpublished articles
> > which we were 'gifted' some time ago."
> > Ed, please tell us
> > 1. The name of the "foundation" -- and how is it a
> > foundation, institute, or in other ways organized...
> > 2 when were you given unpublished articles?
> > 3. Will they be edited and published, open to study or
> > comment? How will that happen?
> >
> > 4. Here's something that just came to my attention from one
> > article about Sociometry: "In order to rebuild our world order
> > sociometric methods have to be applied on a world wide scale."
> > adam: I find that Moreno's vision was wonderful and yet
> > rather general. After the conference, do you have any specific
> > suggestions about which sociometric methods could be applied and
> > how they might be applied?
> >
> > Might his writing at that point reflect a vision of sociometry
> > that went beyond the investigation and working with tele dynamics
> > alone and perhaps blended with his thinking about group therapy and
> > beyond therapy, group dynamics, processes, and so forth? If that
> > was so, might there be room for many other people's contributions
> > regarding group work, group dynamics, and so forth? Which might be
> > most relevant and worthy of being taught more explicitly as part of
> > psychodrama training? I don't know the answer to these questions,
> > but I do think they point us in a useful direction.
> >
> > Warmly, adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nice frame from Dr. Moreno for what are work is about and what
> > we have on our plate.
> >
> > Might be cool to have a "world-wide conference" bringing many
> > Morenean practitioners together
> >
> > at one time and in one place!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > Grouptalk mailing list
> > List at grouptalkweb.org
> > http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:57:20 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: The Hidden Moreno
> > To: Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>, list at grouptalkweb.org
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> >
> > Hi Adam,
> > Here's some more data:
> > 1. Zerka T. Moreno Foundation for Education, Training & Research
> > 2. We found the unpublished articles and asked in writing for
> > permission to edit and publish them. Permission
> > was granted a few earlier this year.
> > 3. The entire set of articles will be published in one "Journal" or
> > document and will be finished by Dallas ASGPP 08.
> > They will be there for purchase.
> > 4. Moving sociometry to sociatry is the work at hand. From what I
> > am studying, Moreno left some pretty clear
> > formulas moving us toward sociatry. OK for now?
> >
> >> Ed Schreiber mentions: "post-conference research work with this
> >> Foundation we've started is about Moreno's unpublished articles
> >> which we were 'gifted' some time ago."
> >> Ed, please tell us
> >> 1. The name of the "foundation" -- and how is it a
> >> foundation, institute, or in other ways organized...
> >> 2 when were you given unpublished articles?
> >> 3. Will they be edited and published, open to study or
> >> comment? How will that happen?
> >>
> >> 4. Here's something that just came to my attention from one
> >> article about Sociometry: "In order to rebuild our world order
> >> sociometric methods have to be applied on a world wide scale."
> >> adam: I find that Moreno's vision was wonderful and yet
> >> rather general. After the conference, do you have any specific
> >> suggestions about which sociometric methods could be applied and
> >> how they might be applied?
> >>
> >> Might his writing at that point reflect a vision of sociometry
> >> that went beyond the investigation and working with tele dynamics
> >> alone and perhaps blended with his thinking about group therapy and
> >> beyond therapy, group dynamics, processes, and so forth? If that
> >> was so, might there be room for many other people's contributions
> >> regarding group work, group dynamics, and so forth? Which might be
> >> most relevant and worthy of being taught more explicitly as part of
> >> psychodrama training? I don't know the answer to these questions,
> >> but I do think they point us in a useful direction.
> >>
> >> Warmly, adam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Nice frame from Dr. Moreno for what are work is about and what we
> >>> have on our plate.
> >>>
> >>> Might be cool to have a "world-wide conference" bringing many
> >>> Morenean practitioners together
> >>>
> >>> at one time and in one place!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Grouptalk mailing list
> >> List at grouptalkweb.org
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> >>
> >>
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:59:32 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: The Hidden Moreno
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <4502D1A9-6B64-4087-9E6D-6F0A63BBC209 at earthlink.net>
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> >
> > Oh by the way, these articles (about 400 pages in total) were found
> > in a box. Let's just say it was good luck.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 1, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Adam,
> >> Here's some more data:
> >> 1. Zerka T. Moreno Foundation for Education, Training & Research
> >> 2. We found the unpublished articles and asked in writing for
> >> permission to edit and publish them. Permission
> >> was granted a few earlier this year.
> >> 3. The entire set of articles will be published in one "Journal"
> >> or document and will be finished by Dallas ASGPP 08.
> >> They will be there for purchase.
> >> 4. Moving sociometry to sociatry is the work at hand. From what
> >> I am studying, Moreno left some pretty clear
> >> formulas moving us toward sociatry. OK for now?
> >>
> >>> Ed Schreiber mentions: "post-conference research work with this
> >>> Foundation we've started is about Moreno's unpublished articles
> >>> which we were 'gifted' some time ago."
> >>> Ed, please tell us
> >>> 1. The name of the "foundation" -- and how is it a
> >>> foundation, institute, or in other ways organized...
> >>> 2 when were you given unpublished articles?
> >>> 3. Will they be edited and published, open to study or
> >>> comment? How will that happen?
> >>>
> >>> 4. Here's something that just came to my attention from one
> >>> article about Sociometry: "In order to rebuild our world order
> >>> sociometric methods have to be applied on a world wide scale."
> >>> adam: I find that Moreno's vision was wonderful and yet
> >>> rather general. After the conference, do you have any specific
> >>> suggestions about which sociometric methods could be applied and
> >>> how they might be applied?
> >>>
> >>> Might his writing at that point reflect a vision of
> >>> sociometry that went beyond the investigation and working with
> >>> tele dynamics alone and perhaps blended with his thinking about
> >>> group therapy and beyond therapy, group dynamics, processes, and
> >>> so forth? If that was so, might there be room for many other
> >>> people's contributions regarding group work, group dynamics, and
> >>> so forth? Which might be most relevant and worthy of being taught
> >>> more explicitly as part of psychodrama training? I don't know
> >>> the answer to these questions, but I do think they point us in a
> >>> useful direction.
> >>>
> >>> Warmly, adam
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Nice frame from Dr. Moreno for what are work is about and what we
> >>>> have on our plate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Might be cool to have a "world-wide conference" bringing many
> >>>> Morenean practitioners together
> >>>>
> >>>> at one time and in one place!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ed
> >>>>
> >>>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> 5/1/2007 2:57 PM
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> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 14:13:07 -0500
> > From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> > Subject: promoting psychodrama
> > To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> > Message-ID: <005601c78c24$c22f9cc0$2e01a8c0 at desktop>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > Another way to promote psychodrama: If any of you know of any
> > newcomers, or students who
> > seem to be passionate about the method and committed, even if only
> > to one form of the
> > method, encourage those students or colleagues to join grouptalk
> > and get encouragement.
> > These folks may be surprised and delighted by the welcome they
> > receive.
> > I would like to know about some of them, and might be willing
> > to send them some
> > papers or books to honor their interest and involvement.
> > Perhaps others might think of these scholarship-like
> > inclusive responses.
> >
> > I suspect that some of you know of some new folks who really
> > are diving into the
> > method and its background, theory, spirit. This could include also
> > people in other
> > countries. Who have impressed you and why?
> >
> > A variation: Begin to think about and talk up who might
> > deserve an ASGPP award next
> > year at the next conference (probably in the Dallas area.)
> >
> > Warmly, Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 19:05:35 -0400
> > From: "Adam M. Barcroft" <amb1 at hughes.net>
> > Subject: ASGPP Member Mirror Forum Invitation
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <61EBEA62-6674-452E-9010-5C5B1BF5408C at hughes.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes;
> > format=flowed
> >
> > Greetings to Group-Talk,
> >
> > This is my first post to group talk,
> > after watching for about two years now.
> > Somehow now I feel compelled to jump in.
> >
> > Since returning from the NYC ASGPP conference a few days ago,
> > I wanted to begin the conversation that Mike Traynor invited us to
> > begin
> > through the ASGPP website "Forum." Although I appreciate having the
> > meeting very much, There is not ever going to be enough time at the
> > annual membership meeting for a much longer, more open, and in many
> > ways more safe discussion we can have in the online forum.
> >
> > For us to begin this discussion, ASGPP members have to Register a
> > username and password at the ASGPP website http://www.asgpp.org/
> > ForumII/default.asp to join any ASGPP FORUMS discussions.
> >
> > To this end, I offer the following letter expressing my thinking
> > about how we might proceed here in the Members Mirror Forum, with
> > what guidelines.
> >
> > To nurture and support our Society here in the ASGPP Forum I suggest
> > foremost:
> >
> > 1. Allow all input, so long as that input is respectful. Our
> > differences allow dialectics and opportunities for new understanding
> > and integration. The same goes for how we connect. This all part of
> > our "digital tele? that will emerge as this forum grows, and we have
> > to be careful and respectful with each other. Also, a forum
> > participant's anonymity should be respected if they so wish, a good
> > safety measure. As a final safety measure, any attempted personal
> > attacks will be removed before they ever get posted to the forum
> > discussion.
> >
> > 2. That all voices feel safe to interact, at their own pace.
> > Our creativity and passion are our gifts to the world, let us all
> > teach and learn from each other, without ever directing anger or harm
> > toward another. My thinking is that if we fail to do this, then the
> > less warmed up to joining in this forum will remain so...less
> > warmed up.
> >
> > 3. That we remain focused on the goal of supporting and nurturing the
> > ASGPP and her connections within the organization and around the
> > world.
> >
> > As we proceed, please add any additional guidelines you would like
> > that you think would help this Forum's function.
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > i.b.morenean
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:46:43 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: Autobio/Genius
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <5B412C10-4216-41E4-A4FA-BDDCB22CF63A at earthlink.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >
> > Adskskisky
> >
> > (-practicing for Romanian talk)
> >
> > Can you jot down the sequence of articles/parts of Genius?
> > I have them but not in the sequence they are intended.
> >
> > Gracious.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:47:33 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: Autobio/Genius
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org, Edward Schreiber
> > <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Message-ID: <C1DA57AD-BD51-4F7F-8DCE-3F3894C3363F at earthlink.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >
> > OOPS, sorry not intended for list.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:56:18 -0400
> > From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> > To: "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> > Message-ID: <005001c78c54$b1e25490$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Dear Psychodrama Buddies,
> > I want to suggest that since the conference is going to be in Texas
> > next year, that those psychodramatists who live in the southwest
> > begin to pull together a mailing list of people who might be
> > interested in attending. This way they can be contacted early to
> > let them know of the conference, even before the brochure comes out.
> > The Marketing Empress
> > Rebecca
> > Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
> > 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
> > (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
> > visit us at our website: www.hvpi.net
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> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 21:02:35 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re:
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <83C45F4A-D6EF-469A-8B4D-16191B071F28 at earthlink.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > And I would like to applaud that and suggest the Conference
> > Team comes up with a flyer announcing the conference, dates,
> > place, contact info so we can start to market it in the very near
> > future!
> > We cannot afford to wait until 2008 in my opinion.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > On May 1, 2007, at 8:56 PM, HV Psychodrama wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Psychodrama Buddies,
> >> I want to suggest that since the conference is going to be in Texas
> >> next year, that those psychodramatists who live in the southwest
> >> begin to pull together a mailing list of people who might be
> >> interested in attending. This way they can be contacted early to
> >> let them know of the conference, even before the brochure comes out.
> >> The Marketing Empress
> >> Rebecca
> >> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
> >> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
> >> (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
> >> visit us at our website: www.hvpi.net
> >> Grouptalk mailing list
> >> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:46:09 -0500
> > From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> > Subject: warmup to ASGPP 08
> > To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> > Cc: Katrena Hart <katrena_hart at hotmail.com>
> > Message-ID: <01f601c78c5b$a8de4500$2e01a8c0 at desktop>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Your royal and esteemed Majesty,
> > I am so pleased that you have finally "come out" as
> > aristocracy. I don't know if you noticed, but aristocracy gets
> > little respect or special privilege nowadays. Wealth does, some;
> > and celebrity; but empress-hood, hm.
> > Anyway, about getting a running start, yes! Good thought!
> > I have been doing this for the last two- to three- weeks,
> > coordinating and sending names to Katrena Hart, the conference chair.
> > Also checking old workshop mailing lists over the last over
> > 20 years, seeing who else is still around and interested.
> >
> > I hope we can be informed as soon as a time and/or place is
> > determined to once again "pulse the system," (as it's called in
> > computer work)
> > Warmly, Adam
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: HV Psychodrama
> > To: grouptalk
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:56 PM
> >
> >
> > Dear Psychodrama Buddies,
> > I want to suggest that since the conference is going to be in
> > Texas next year, that those psychodramatists who live in the
> > southwest begin to pull together a mailing list of people who might
> > be interested in attending. This way they can be contacted early to
> > let them know of the conference, even before the brochure comes out.
> > The Marketing Empress
> > Rebecca
> > Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
> > 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
> > (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
> > visit us at our website: www.hvpi.net
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:52:21 -0500 (CDT)
> > From: "T.Treadwell" <ttreadwe at grouptalkweb.org>
> > Subject: Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705012052070.31232 at earth.s3servers.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Grouptalk has the link active fro ABE...
> >
> > tom
> >
> > Thomas Treadwell CompSoc - GraphPlot
> > Computerized
> > Dept. of Psychology \ / Sociometry
> > West Chester Univ. __/ \__
> > Phone-610-436-2723
> > West Chester, Pa. ttreadwe at grouptalkweb.org
> > FAX-610-436-2846
> > Grouptalk Listserv
> > http://grouptalkweb.org
> >
> > A person will sometimes devote all his life to the
> > development of one
> > part of his body - the wishbone. ~~Robert Frost
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 1 May 2007, ABE Psychodrama wrote:
> >
> >> Just to remind each of you that the American Board of
> >> Examiners in Psychodrama, Sociometry and Group
> >> Psychotherapy (ABE) has a website. You can reach it
> >> at psychodramacertfication.org. We also have a link
> >> to
> >> grouptalk and hope that grouptalk will also have a
> >> link to us.
> >> Our new website is now open to our members. It will
> >> be open to trainees and the general public by May 1st.
> >> We have not completed all the homepage features yet,
> >> and the site will not be functional until enough of
> >> our members logon and allow release of their
> >> information to the public.
> >>
> >> If you are certified by us go to
> >> www.psychodramacertification.org to log in. Click on
> >> to ?Members Login here? (it is at the right side
> >> bottom of the blue header). Once there enter your
> >> userid (your ID is the first initial of your first
> >> name and your last name all in small letters, e.g.,
> >> dbuchanan). Then ask for help with pass code. Follow
> >> the instructions and your passcode will be sent to
> >> your email address.
> >>
> >> Once entered you will go to ?my start page? and see
> >> the information we entered for you. We entered what
> >> was in the directory last year. In order for the
> >> general public to view your information you will need
> >> to click the box that allows for public access. If
> >> you do not allow public access then only other
> >> certified members will be able to access your
> >> information. You can also change your passcode in
> >> this private "your eyes only" section.
> >>
> >> You will be able to write a 500-word profile of your
> >> practice and your biography so that individuals will
> >> know who you are and your areas of interest. Persons
> >> can search by keyword and if, for instance, you
> >> include "sociodrama" in your profile then your name
> >> will pop up when people insert the keyword
> >> "sociodrama." You may also post training workshops on
> >> the calendar.
> >>
> >> We are very excited about the possibilities offered by
> >> this new website. You can market your services and
> >> network with your peers. Trainees can download, for
> >> no charge, applications for the CP, PAT and TEP
> >> process.
> >>
> >> The general public will be able to search for and find
> >> certified psychodramatists who offer training,
> >> therapy, sociodrama, etc.
> >>
> >> We also believe that our website will significantly
> >> increase the visibility of psychodrama and of
> >> certified psychodramatists.
> >>
> >> Peace, Dale
> >>
> >> Dale Richard Buchanan, Ph.D., T.E.P.
> >> Executive Director, American Board of Examiners in
> >> Psychodrama,
> >> Sociometry and Group Psychotherapy
> >> 202-483-0514
> >> abepsychodrama at yahoo.com
> >> www.psychodramacertification.org
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
> >> Do You Yahoo!?
> >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> >> http://mail.yahoo.com
> >>
> >> Grouptalk mailing list
> >> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 20:59:07 -0500
> > From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> > Subject: Re: ASGPP Member Mirror Forum Invitation
> > To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> > Message-ID: <021201c78c5d$78ad29d0$2e01a8c0 at desktop>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > Dear Adam mb from adamb
> > hee hee
> >
> > Welcome. Sure, what you say is good.
> > I told Michael and others that I'd like to know that there
> > are 10 - 15 people who
> > are really willing to play the game before I put out the energy and
> > effort to get on the
> > Forum.
> > Who's on? How many people are checking in? How oftern?
> > So I wouldn't make a point and discover to my chagrin
> > that I'm talking to
> > nobody.
> > Or nobody answers or responds.
> >
> > Hm? Warmly, Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 22:26:34 EDT
> > From: NatalieLW3 at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <d67.82a90b3.336950da at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Dear Tom,
> >
> > I have followed the directions for log in and I can't get in.
> >
> > I gave - nwinters as my name, stated my e-mail address and a code
> > came back.
> > I then put in nwinters and the code and even tried my e-mail
> > address and the
> > code and it keeps coming back wrong address or pass word. What do I
> > do now.
> > Please help.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Natalie
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's free at http://
> > www.aol.com.
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> >
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 19:27:22 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>
> > Subject: My Experience in Brooklyn's ASGPP Meeting
> > To: Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>, list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <240120.88238.qm at web84106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Dear Psychodrama colleagues:
> >
> > Due to my preoccupation with my son and building a business to
> > support his stay at the beautiful heartwarming therapeutic
> > Community at Gould Farm in Great Barrington Mass, where I took him
> > today, I only had just the slightest opportunity to participate in
> > or rather around the Meeting. I came in at the end of the day
> > once, assisting Bonnie Weiss, my former wife with her presentation
> > Friday morning with a wonderful group. I also came around at the
> > end of the Sunday workshops just before the final goodbye
> > presentation. It was heartening to see people I knew from the past
> > including my wonderful friend and fellow student at the time, Don
> > Miller, who actually married Bonnie and I for real on the
> > Psychodrama Stage in Beacon back in 1968. AH THOSE GOOD OLD DAY...
> > where have they gone?
> >
> > Straight into the multifaceted brilliantly talented and overflowing
> > days of today.
> >
> > As I walked by the array of books, I fairly bubbled over from the
> > passion I experienced as I passed. So much passion it takes to
> > give birth to books of these sorts. I wanted to see all of what
> > seemed like well over a hundred authors on a stage together just
> > radiating out their passion to the rest of us in a non verbal dance
> > anointing us with their soul's songs in service to those we may
> > have the privilege of mentoring along their way. WOW.
> >
> > Thank you all for your passion and the building of a community that
> > continues to increase the possibility of the healing of humanity
> > before the question raised by JL no longer means anything at all.
> >
> > Blessings all, Bud Weiss
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW
> > 7410 Ridge Blvd 2D
> > Brooklyn, NY 11209
> > E-Mail: Budweiss at verizon.net
> > Cell (917)-751-3395
> > web page: WWW.BURNLOUNGE.COM/BUDSLOUNGE
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> >
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 21:33:08 -0500 (CDT)
> > From: "T.Treadwell" <ttreadwe at grouptalkweb.org>
> > Subject: Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Cc: NatalieLW3 at aol.com
> > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705012129160.31232 at earth.s3servers.com>
> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >
> > Natalie
> > 1. Go to the login page and type in nwinters in the user name box.
> > 2. press return and you'll get an email from ABE with a password.
> >
> > 3. go back to login page and type in nwinters in the user name box.
> > 4. type in password sent to you in password box.
> >
> > you can change your password after you are logged in.
> >
> > let me know if that helps
> >
> > Thomas Treadwell CompSoc - GraphPlot
> > Computerized
> > Dept. of Psychology \ / Sociometry
> > West Chester Univ. __/ \__
> > Phone-610-436-2723
> > West Chester, Pa. ttreadwe at grouptalkweb.org
> > FAX-610-436-2846
> > Grouptalk Listserv
> > http://grouptalkweb.org
> >
> > A person will sometimes devote all his life to the
> > development of one
> > part of his body - the wishbone. ~~Robert Frost
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 1 May 2007, NatalieLW3 at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Tom,
> >>
> >> I have followed the directions for log in and I can't get in.
> >>
> >> I gave - nwinters as my name, stated my e-mail address and a code
> >> came back.
> >> I then put in nwinters and the code and even tried my e-mail
> >> address and the
> >> code and it keeps coming back wrong address or pass word. What do
> >> I do now.
> >> Please help.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Natalie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ************************************** See what's free at http://
> >> www.aol.com.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 22:35:20 EDT
> > From: NatalieLW3 at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <ca7.f697e9f.336952e8 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I have done this 3x and it keeps coming back wrong user name or
> > pass word.
> >
> >
> >
> > ************************************** See what's free at http://
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> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 22:36:35 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: ABE HAS A WEBSITE
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <1C406572-8DFB-4DCB-8A2B-BD9316A3727F at earthlink.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > I suggest you go to the ABE directly and address this with Dale.
> > E
> >
> >
> > On May 1, 2007, at 10:35 PM, NatalieLW3 at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> I have done this 3x and it keeps coming back wrong user name or
> >> pass word.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> See what's free at AOL.com.
> >> Grouptalk mailing list
> >> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
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> > Message: 22
> > Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 07:34:51 -0400
> > From: "Linda Ciotola" <vegmom at closecall.com>
> > Subject: RE: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1 magazine
> > article-sociometry/middle east
> > To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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> > Hello All: a few weeks ago someone mentioned an article in a
> > magazine (The
> > New Republic?) written by a psychodramatist , using sociometry to
> > examine
> > the middle east problems. I have looked for it without success. Could
> > someone please give me all the info I need to find it. Thanks so
> > much. Linda
> > Ciotola
> >
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> > 1. Re: ASGPP Conference (Adam Blatner)
> > 2. Re: ASGPP Conference (Edward Schreiber)
> > 3. Re: psychodrama conferences (Edward Schreiber)
> > 4. Re: ASGPP Conference (Adam Blatner)
> > 5. Re: ASGPP Conference (Edward Schreiber)
> > 6. Re: ASGPP Conference (Adam Blatner)
> > 7. Re: ASGPP Conference (Edward Schreiber)
> > 8. Psychodrama Bibliography - New Home (T.Treadwell)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:27:00 -0500
> > From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> > Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> > To: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>,
> > <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> > Message-ID: <004a01c78b55$252e49a0$2e01a8c0 at desktop>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=response
> >
> > sounds good. Would it be helpful to articulate the concerns or issues,
> > edited, condensed,
> > re what the two subgroups were seeking to achieve? This might help
> > many of
> > us identify our
> > own hardly-realized concerns, functioning, as it were, as a kind of
> > doubling.
> > Warmly, adam
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> >
> >
> >> Hi Adam,
> >> To respond:
> >> There were 2 (at least) subgroups w/in the organization.
> >> They "came to a head" at the meeting. There was a great
> >> deal of work done before the meeting on Sunday. Nick, Ed,
> >> Council members, Rebecca, Louise, Nina, Natalie, Dale all
> >> reached out to address their concerns and feelings. When the
> >> two sub-groups came together in an encounter, peace was found.
> >> Moreno's encounter enacted in-situ in the group process.
> >>
> >> Mike Traynor was particularly helpful in standing as a bridge between
> >> the two groups. Ed Garcia and Nick held their presence well, with
> >> dignity. Passion emerged. Energy. Care. Honesty. A mix took
> >> place.
> >> For me, for example, I had contact/encounter with those with whom
> >> I had
> >> not before. It was our method in action.
> >>
> >> John Rasberry, our new President summarized it at the end by
> >> addressing
> >> a part of a letter to the Society from Zerka Moreno. John noted,
> >> from
> > her
> >> letter, the need to sit down together like at a table.
> >>
> >> John presented, in masterful form, the spirit of inclusion.
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:
> >>
> >>> Good news. I'm wondering if there were any specifics that we
> >>> should know
> >>> about sooner than the PNN, or perhaps more specifically,
> >>> re: ..."altered
> > the
> >>> sociometry that was stuck." maybe or maybe not we'd be helped by
> > knowing
> >>> what was altered...
> >>>
> >>> 2. and more about: ... > ASGPP Council reached to members
> >>> and held
> > one
> >>> another to a standard, in
> >>>> public and in private -- what standard?
> >>> Well, maybe nothing more needs to be said, or maybe something.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again Ed and rosalie and all.. warmly, adam
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> >>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:57 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Greetings,
> >>>> Thanks to the conference committee for the most outstanding
> >>>> example of finding our way to peace together. What an rich
> >>>> conference, warm, professional, honest, caring. For those unable
> >>>> to attend Amy Goodman as keynote speaker brought us into the
> >>>> world fabric, asking us to address who shall survive. The
> >>>> workshops
> >>>> were rich, deep and broad. That setting elegant, supportive and
> >>>> loving. The work we did as a society set the course for the next 2
> >>>> years with a clearly defined agenda for where we must go (less
> > expensive
> >>>> conferences and continued inclusion - and respect for our
> >>>> differences) and
> >>>> brought us closer to realizing our true work: all of humankind.
> >>>> The ASGPP
> >>>> annual meeting on Sunday morning brought us toward one another, as
> >>>> difficult as that was, and altered the sociometry that was stuck.
> >>>>
> >>>> Louise and Roberto as co-chairs were just wonderful as hosts and
> >>>> the
> >>>> ASGPP
> >>>> Council reached to members and held one another to a standard, in
> >>>> public and in
> >>>> private I am sure.
> >>>>
> >>>> For me, I went to the Conference uncertain about the future for our
> >>>> organization.
> >>>> I left feeling sure that we are on the path to realizing the
> >>>> dream of
> >>>> Dr. Moreno and
> >>>> Zerka Moreno: to created "democratic creatocracy". Thank you
> >>>> ASGPP
> >>>> and thank
> >>>> you Conference Co-Chairs and Conference Committee for holding that
> >>>> vision and
> >>>> putting it into action.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ed Schreiber
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:27:24 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> > To: Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>, list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <4492EE0C-EF8A-4DA3-AA2D-3C221D585C15 at earthlink.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
> >
> > Hi Adam,
> > I endorse the open society standard, I think one great advance in our
> > work
> > was offered by Mike Traynor during the meeting. He suggested that we
> > use the ASGPP membership forum to engage in a full discussion,
> > ongoing,
> > overtime of the issues of moving forward. The issues generated
> > during the
> > ASGPP Sunday meeting were about moving forward and the particular
> > concerns
> > and dynamics that needed attention. So I support Mike's leadership
> > and want
> > to do some chatting on the ASGPP members board.
> >
> > On that note, I am unsure of how to post a new topic on the site.
> >
> > Does anyone know how to do that? I tried but could not.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 30, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
> >
> >> sounds good. Would it be helpful to articulate the concerns or
> >> issues, edited, condensed, re what the two subgroups were seeking
> >> to achieve? This might help many of us identify our own hardly-
> >> realized concerns, functioning, as it were, as a kind of doubling.
> >> Warmly, adam
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
> >> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> >> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:23 AM
> >> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Adam,
> >>> To respond:
> >>> There were 2 (at least) subgroups w/in the organization.
> >>> They "came to a head" at the meeting. There was a great
> >>> deal of work done before the meeting on Sunday. Nick, Ed,
> >>> Council members, Rebecca, Louise, Nina, Natalie, Dale all
> >>> reached out to address their concerns and feelings. When the
> >>> two sub-groups came together in an encounter, peace was found.
> >>> Moreno's encounter enacted in-situ in the group process.
> >>>
> >>> Mike Traynor was particularly helpful in standing as a bridge
> >>> between
> >>> the two groups. Ed Garcia and Nick held their presence well, with
> >>> dignity. Passion emerged. Energy. Care. Honesty. A mix took
> >>> place.
> >>> For me, for example, I had contact/encounter with those with whom
> >>> I had
> >>> not before. It was our method in action.
> >>>
> >>> John Rasberry, our new President summarized it at the end by
> >>> addressing
> >>> a part of a letter to the Society from Zerka Moreno. John noted,
> >>> from her
> >>> letter, the need to sit down together like at a table.
> >>>
> >>> John presented, in masterful form, the spirit of inclusion.
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Good news. I'm wondering if there were any specifics that we
> >>>> should know
> >>>> about sooner than the PNN, or perhaps more specifically,
> >>>> re: ..."altered the
> >>>> sociometry that was stuck." maybe or maybe not we'd be helped
> >>>> by knowing
> >>>> what was altered...
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. and more about: ... > ASGPP Council reached to members
> >>>> and held one
> >>>> another to a standard, in
> >>>>> public and in private -- what standard?
> >>>> Well, maybe nothing more needs to be said, or maybe something.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks again Ed and rosalie and all.. warmly, adam
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> >>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:57 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Greetings,
> >>>>> Thanks to the conference committee for the most outstanding
> >>>>> example of finding our way to peace together. What an rich
> >>>>> conference, warm, professional, honest, caring. For those unable
> >>>>> to attend Amy Goodman as keynote speaker brought us into the
> >>>>> world fabric, asking us to address who shall survive. The
> >>>>> workshops
> >>>>> were rich, deep and broad. That setting elegant, supportive and
> >>>>> loving. The work we did as a society set the course for the
> >>>>> next 2
> >>>>> years with a clearly defined agenda for where we must go (less
> >>>>> expensive
> >>>>> conferences and continued inclusion - and respect for our
> >>>>> differences) and
> >>>>> brought us closer to realizing our true work: all of humankind.
> >>>>> The ASGPP
> >>>>> annual meeting on Sunday morning brought us toward one another, as
> >>>>> difficult as that was, and altered the sociometry that was stuck.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Louise and Roberto as co-chairs were just wonderful as hosts and
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> ASGPP
> >>>>> Council reached to members and held one another to a standard, in
> >>>>> public and in
> >>>>> private I am sure.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For me, I went to the Conference uncertain about the future for
> >>>>> our
> >>>>> organization.
> >>>>> I left feeling sure that we are on the path to realizing the
> >>>>> dream of
> >>>>> Dr. Moreno and
> >>>>> Zerka Moreno: to created "democratic creatocracy". Thank you
> >>>>> ASGPP
> >>>>> and thank
> >>>>> you Conference Co-Chairs and Conference Committee for holding that
> >>>>> vision and
> >>>>> putting it into action.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ed Schreiber
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database:
> >>> 269.6.2/781 - Release Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:41:13 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: psychodrama conferences
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <E56E9C99-4872-4C9C-A4C3-4F62A0D924C4 at earthlink.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Karen,
> > I missed you at the conference!
> > Ed
> > On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:43 AM, Karen Carnabucci wrote:
> >
> >> See query below, about interest in psychodrama confererences and
> >> events in Texas.
> >> Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP
> >> Companions In Healing
> >>
> >> Lake House Health & Learning Center
> >> 932 Lake Ave.
> >> Racine, WI 53403
> >>
> >> (262) 633-2645
> >> karen at companionsinhealing.com
> >>
> >> www.lakehousecenter.com
> >> www.companionsinhealing.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Masih, Victoria S. [mailto:Victoria.Masih at va.gov]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:00 AM
> >> To: Karen Carnabucci
> >> Subject: psychodrama conferences
> >>
> >> Dear Karen, I am interested in learning about psychodrama. I think
> >> it will be a tremendous asset for me in working with veterans in
> >> dealing with their PTSD issues. I am currently living in Temple,
> >> Texas which is close to Dallas and Austin and San Antonio. Do you
> >> know of any conferences in the vicinity this summer that I may be
> >> able to go to? By the way I graduated from University of Wisconsin
> >> at Parkside several years ago.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Victoria Masih, LCSW
> >>
> >> Grouptalk mailing list
> >> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:32:08 -0500
> > From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> > Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> > To: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> > reply-type=response
> >
> > Dear Ed,
> > Actually, there have been a few emails out from Nick Wolff over
> > the last
> > year about the
> > forum. I spoke with Mike Traynor about the Forum and noted that
> > it's hard to
> > get on and
> > very few people seemed to use it---that's why I prefer Grouptalk. I
> > said
> > that if I knew
> > there were some folks reading and contributing, I might put up with
> > the
> > hassle and use
> > that format, but so far when I've checked it, so little has been
> > posted.
> > I wonder how many others want to use that medium. I'd play if
> > others would, too.
> >
> > You might ask Mike to re-submit the instructions yet again,
> > because
> > I've found that
> > one must be persistent in informing a social group about an
> > upcoming event
> > or new
> > resource, reminding everyone at least three times, and then
> > repeating the
> > announcement
> > every 6 months or so.
> >
> > Warmly, adam
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> >
> >
> >> Hi Adam,
> >> I endorse the open society standard, I think one great advance in our
> > work
> >> was offered by Mike Traynor during the meeting. He suggested that we
> >> use the ASGPP membership forum to engage in a full discussion,
> >> ongoing,
> >> overtime of the issues of moving forward. The issues generated
> >> during
> > the
> >> ASGPP Sunday meeting were about moving forward and the particular
> > concerns
> >> and dynamics that needed attention. So I support Mike's
> >> leadership and
> > want
> >> to do some chatting on the ASGPP members board.
> >>
> >> On that note, I am unsure of how to post a new topic on the site.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know how to do that? I tried but could not.
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 30, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
> >>
> >>> sounds good. Would it be helpful to articulate the concerns or
> >>> issues,
> > edited,
> >>> condensed, re what the two subgroups were seeking to achieve?
> >>> This might
> > help many of
> >>> us identify our own hardly- realized concerns, functioning, as it
> >>> were,
> > as a kind of
> >>> doubling.
> >>> Warmly, adam
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
> > <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> >>> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:23 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Adam,
> >>>> To respond:
> >>>> There were 2 (at least) subgroups w/in the organization.
> >>>> They "came to a head" at the meeting. There was a great
> >>>> deal of work done before the meeting on Sunday. Nick, Ed,
> >>>> Council members, Rebecca, Louise, Nina, Natalie, Dale all
> >>>> reached out to address their concerns and feelings. When the
> >>>> two sub-groups came together in an encounter, peace was found.
> >>>> Moreno's encounter enacted in-situ in the group process.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike Traynor was particularly helpful in standing as a bridge
> >>>> between
> >>>> the two groups. Ed Garcia and Nick held their presence well, with
> >>>> dignity. Passion emerged. Energy. Care. Honesty. A mix
> >>>> took place.
> >>>> For me, for example, I had contact/encounter with those with
> >>>> whom I had
> >>>> not before. It was our method in action.
> >>>>
> >>>> John Rasberry, our new President summarized it at the end by
> >>>> addressing
> >>>> a part of a letter to the Society from Zerka Moreno. John
> >>>> noted, from
> > her
> >>>> letter, the need to sit down together like at a table.
> >>>>
> >>>> John presented, in masterful form, the spirit of inclusion.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ed
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Good news. I'm wondering if there were any specifics that we
> >>>>> should
> > know
> >>>>> about sooner than the PNN, or perhaps more specifically, re:
> > ..."altered the
> >>>>> sociometry that was stuck." maybe or maybe not we'd be
> >>>>> helped by
> > knowing
> >>>>> what was altered...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. and more about: ... > ASGPP Council reached to members and
> > held one
> >>>>> another to a standard, in
> >>>>>> public and in private -- what standard?
> >>>>> Well, maybe nothing more needs to be said, or maybe
> >>>>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks again Ed and rosalie and all.. warmly, adam
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> >>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:57 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Greetings,
> >>>>>> Thanks to the conference committee for the most outstanding
> >>>>>> example of finding our way to peace together. What an rich
> >>>>>> conference, warm, professional, honest, caring. For those unable
> >>>>>> to attend Amy Goodman as keynote speaker brought us into the
> >>>>>> world fabric, asking us to address who shall survive. The
> >>>>>> workshops
> >>>>>> were rich, deep and broad. That setting elegant, supportive and
> >>>>>> loving. The work we did as a society set the course for the
> >>>>>> next 2
> >>>>>> years with a clearly defined agenda for where we must go (less
> > expensive
> >>>>>> conferences and continued inclusion - and respect for our
> >>>>>> differences) and
> >>>>>> brought us closer to realizing our true work: all of humankind.
> >>>>>> The ASGPP
> >>>>>> annual meeting on Sunday morning brought us toward one
> >>>>>> another, as
> >>>>>> difficult as that was, and altered the sociometry that was stuck.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Louise and Roberto as co-chairs were just wonderful as hosts
> >>>>>> and the
> >>>>>> ASGPP
> >>>>>> Council reached to members and held one another to a standard, in
> >>>>>> public and in
> >>>>>> private I am sure.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For me, I went to the Conference uncertain about the future
> >>>>>> for our
> >>>>>> organization.
> >>>>>> I left feeling sure that we are on the path to realizing the
> >>>>>> dream of
> >>>>>> Dr. Moreno and
> >>>>>> Zerka Moreno: to created "democratic creatocracy". Thank
> >>>>>> you ASGPP
> >>>>>> and thank
> >>>>>> you Conference Co-Chairs and Conference Committee for holding
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> vision and
> >>>>>> putting it into action.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ed Schreiber
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database:
> > 269.6.2/781 - Release
> >>>> Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database:
> > 269.6.2/781 - Release
> >> Date: 4/30/2007 9:14 AM
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:47:48 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> > To: Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>, list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <49070A3E-A407-456E-B9E4-FB0DCD9F8711 at earthlink.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
> >
> > Dear Adam,
> > Yes, I feel the same about Grouptalk! It is so damn easy to use.
> > But for ongoing long term discussions, the ASGPP is asking us to use
> > the site's discussion board. So I want to support that request and
> > think
> > it makes a lot of sense!
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 30, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Ed,
> >> Actually, there have been a few emails out from Nick Wolff over
> >> the last year about the forum. I spoke with Mike Traynor about the
> >> Forum and noted that it's hard to get on and very few people seemed
> >> to use it---that's why I prefer Grouptalk. I said that if I knew
> >> there were some folks reading and contributing, I might put up with
> >> the hassle and use that format, but so far when I've checked it, so
> >> little has been posted.
> >> I wonder how many others want to use that medium. I'd play
> >> if others would, too.
> >>
> >> You might ask Mike to re-submit the instructions yet again,
> >> because I've found that one must be persistent in informing a
> >> social group about an upcoming event or new resource, reminding
> >> everyone at least three times, and then repeating the announcement
> >> every 6 months or so.
> >>
> >> Warmly, adam
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
> >> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> >> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:27 PM
> >> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Adam,
> >>> I endorse the open society standard, I think one great advance in
> >>> our work
> >>> was offered by Mike Traynor during the meeting. He suggested
> >>> that we
> >>> use the ASGPP membership forum to engage in a full discussion,
> >>> ongoing,
> >>> overtime of the issues of moving forward. The issues generated
> >>> during the
> >>> ASGPP Sunday meeting were about moving forward and the particular
> >>> concerns
> >>> and dynamics that needed attention. So I support Mike's
> >>> leadership and want
> >>> to do some chatting on the ASGPP members board.
> >>>
> >>> On that note, I am unsure of how to post a new topic on the site.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know how to do that? I tried but could not.
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> sounds good. Would it be helpful to articulate the concerns or
> >>>> issues, edited, condensed, re what the two subgroups were
> >>>> seeking to achieve? This might help many of us identify our own
> >>>> hardly- realized concerns, functioning, as it were, as a kind of
> >>>> doubling.
> >>>> Warmly, adam
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Schreiber"
> >>>> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> >>>> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:23 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Adam,
> >>>>> To respond:
> >>>>> There were 2 (at least) subgroups w/in the organization.
> >>>>> They "came to a head" at the meeting. There was a great
> >>>>> deal of work done before the meeting on Sunday. Nick, Ed,
> >>>>> Council members, Rebecca, Louise, Nina, Natalie, Dale all
> >>>>> reached out to address their concerns and feelings. When the
> >>>>> two sub-groups came together in an encounter, peace was found.
> >>>>> Moreno's encounter enacted in-situ in the group process.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mike Traynor was particularly helpful in standing as a bridge
> >>>>> between
> >>>>> the two groups. Ed Garcia and Nick held their presence well, with
> >>>>> dignity. Passion emerged. Energy. Care. Honesty. A mix
> >>>>> took place.
> >>>>> For me, for example, I had contact/encounter with those with
> >>>>> whom I had
> >>>>> not before. It was our method in action.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John Rasberry, our new President summarized it at the end by
> >>>>> addressing
> >>>>> a part of a letter to the Society from Zerka Moreno. John
> >>>>> noted, from her
> >>>>> letter, the need to sit down together like at a table.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John presented, in masterful form, the spirit of inclusion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ed
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Apr 30, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Good news. I'm wondering if there were any specifics that we
> >>>>>> should know
> >>>>>> about sooner than the PNN, or perhaps more specifically,
> >>>>>> re: ..."altered the
> >>>>>> sociometry that was stuck." maybe or maybe not we'd be
> >>>>>> helped by knowing
> >>>>>> what was altered...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2. and more about: ... > ASGPP Council reached to members
> >>>>>> and held one
> >>>>>> another to a standard, in
> >>>>>>> public and in private -- what standard?
> >>>>>> Well, maybe nothing more needs to be said, or maybe
> >>>>>> something.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks again Ed and rosalie and all.. warmly, adam
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> >>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:57 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: ASGPP Conference
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Greetings,
> >>>>>>> Thanks to the conference committee for the most outstanding
> >>>>>>> example of finding our way to peace together. What an rich
> >>>>>>> conference, warm, professional, honest, caring. For those
> >>>>>>> unable
> >>>>>>> to attend Amy Goodman as keynote speaker brought us into the
> >>>>>>> world fabric, asking us to address who shall survive. The
> >>>>>>> workshops
> >>>>>>> were rich, deep and broad. That setting elegant, supportive and
> >>>>>>> loving. The work we did as a society set the course for the
> >>>>>>> next 2
> >>>>>>> years with a clearly defined agenda for where we must go
> >>>>>>> (less expensive
> >>>>>>> conferences and continued inclusion - and respect for our
> >>>>>>> differences) and
> >>>>>>> brought us closer to realizing our true work: all of humankind.
> >>>>>>> The ASGPP
> >>>>>>> annual meeting on Sunday morning brought us toward one
> >>>>>>> another, as
> >>>>>>> difficult as that was, and altered the sociometry that was
> >>>>>>> stuck.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Louise and Roberto as co-chairs were just wonderful as