List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10
Adam M. Barcroft
amb1 at hughes.net
Mon May 7 13:12:18 CDT 2007
Ed,
I was at that ASGPP Journal meeting also,
and I remember when Tian said, three different times during the meeting,
"The Circle is Broken here. We need to heal the broken circle."
From across the room, each time I heard her say this,
I felt large shock waves moving through my body.
Needless to say, I was more than a little surprised to be feeling
each of these shocks,
blasting through me.
After the meeting, as I walked around finding my next workshop's room,
I experienced a catharsis of integration about
Tian's message, and the solution.
I saw Tian moments later in the hallway,
I walked over to her and said, excitedly,
"Tian! I have to tell you that I just figured out how we
heal the broken circle!" I paused, then said,
"The ENCOUNTER heals the broken circle!"
And as the master teacher and student that she is,
her eyes lit up with recognition, and gratitude. A hug,
and then she was off to the next room too.
This is, as Ed has already stated,
what was set in motion during our Journal meeting:
an encounter among representatives of the ASGPP Journal,
(with me in the role of student-interested-in-publishing
in various written formats and also research articles),
who communicated and clarified honestly and openly,
with full inclusion.
The Encounter heals the broken circle.
Meet my new mantra.
The entire experience was quite moving for me,
and plants a seed of understanding in my thinking about
the foundations of the Morenean Arts and Sciences.
Thank you Ed for reminding me of the epiphany I had,
so that I could share my response with you and others.
Also, I am enjoying (watching) the discussions since the conference,
and I am very impressed by how thoughtfully, intelligently, candidly
and respectfully
our membership is taking the "Future Conferences" discussion.
What Kim Cox is saying I have been feeling for years now,
to present psychodrama at other conference venues,
and I've always justified not going to other national conferences
because of issues with time & money.
You can be sure Kim that I won't be making that error any longer.
I am committed to making presentations at other venues,
such as the Networker Conference next March.
Are there new conference postings and announcements that the ASGPP
sends out regularly,
having to do with ongoing conferences held by any organization where
we might consider presenting? Or could there be an ASGPP website
forum for posting announcements about upcoming national and
international conferences?
In my opinion what Steve Gordon, Kim Cox, and others are saying
is very helpful input.
It is good to see such creativity flowing,
boldly and directly.
Adam M. Barcroft
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> 1. Re: next conference (Adam Blatner)
> 2. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
> 3. Re: next conference (Edward Schreiber)
> 4. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
> 5. FW: Conference on Dissociation (Karen Carnabucci)
> 6. Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
> 7. RE: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community (Sandy Blackman)
> 8. Moreno museum (Michael Wieser)
> 9. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community (Kim Cox)
> 10. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community (Edward Schreiber)
> 11. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
> 12. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
> 13. World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward Schreiber)
> 14. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
> 15. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward Schreiber)
> 16. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> 17. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> 18. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> 19. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward Schreiber)
> 20. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> 21. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> 22. Re: conference (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> 23. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
> 24. Re: conference (HV Psychodrama)
> 25. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
> 26. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> 27. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward Schreiber)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 13:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Adam Blatner <ablatner at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: next conference
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> but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the
> motivation or willingness to attend the national conference and if
> so, what will that do to the asgpp as a national organization? adam
>
> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote: Ed, Michael, and
> others who live in Western Mass/Albany area/New Paltz What if we
> got together and planned a two day conference for people who live
> locally? Had anyone else done that...is there a template out there
> for creating and running a short conference? Anyone interested in
> helping to create a template if there isn't one already?
> Rebecca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: PATRICIA DESERT
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> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: next conference
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>
> And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well
> including John Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U., and
> Morgan. Towson University is a state school and could be even more
> affordable than the private colleges.
>
> Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of folks
> who would have rooms in their homes to let for the weekend. For
> example, I have two bedrooms available and if the conference were
> in Baltimore I could create such a list. What a nice experience
> for folks from other countries to experience a welcoming American
> family and home life as well as the conference.
>
> Patti
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edward Schreiber
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
> Subject: Re: next conference
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> Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith College, University
> of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt. Holyoke
> College. We could find one college, I am sure, to house a
> conference in 2009. Colleges end mid-May, so we would have to have
> an early June conference. The conference could include, for those
> who wanted, rental of a dorm room. There are hotels here as well.
>
> The criteria I hear from many is simply cost. Miami was great but
> the cost was high. If we want to attract many we have to make it
> affordable.
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> Ed
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> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: next conference
> To: <adam at blatner.com>, <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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> I think if it planned right, in terms of timing, it will not
> interfere, but perhaps inspire people to attend the national
> conference. Look, the bottom line is that any number of folks
> cannot afford to travel to the places we hold the national
> conferences. They don't get to enjoy the sense of community that
> develops around the love of psychodrama that those of us who travel
> every year to the national conferences enjoy. My hope would be that
> local conferences would get and keep people engaged with the
> method, and perhaps they would in turn attend the national
> conference at another time. Think of it as advanced marketing.
> Next years conference is in Texas. I know most of my students are
> not going to attend. Why not have a conference here in the east
> that would keep them connected until the conference returns to the
> north east. The other thing would be to be sure to hold it at a
> different time, certainly not April if that is when than national
> conference is held.
> I think it would be a terrific marketing idea for
> psychodramatists in Texas to hold one of two short conferences this
> fall, to help develop a taste for an experience that will be
> fulfilled at the national conference next spring.
> Rebecca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam Blatner
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:04 PM
> Subject: Re: next conference
>
>
> but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the
> motivation or willingness to attend the national conference and if
> so, what will that do to the asgpp as a national organization? adam
>
> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
> Ed, Michael, and others who live in Western Mass/Albany area/
> New Paltz What if we got together and planned a two day conference
> for people who live locally? Had anyone else done that...is there a
> template out there for creating and running a short conference?
> Anyone interested in helping to create a template if there isn't
> one already?
> Rebecca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: PATRICIA DESERT
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
> Subject: Re: next conference
>
>
> And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well
> including John Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U., and
> Morgan. Towson University is a state school and could be even more
> affordable than the private colleges.
>
> Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of
> folks who would have rooms in their homes to let for the weekend.
> For example, I have two bedrooms available and if the conference
> were in Baltimore I could create such a list. What a nice
> experience for folks from other countries to experience a welcoming
> American family and home life as well as the conference.
>
> Patti
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edward Schreiber
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
> Subject: Re: next conference
>
>
> Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith College,
> University
> of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt. Holyoke
> College. We could find one college, I am sure, to house a
> conference in 2009. Colleges end mid-May, so we would have
> to have
> an early June conference. The conference could include,
> for those
> who wanted, rental of a dorm room. There are hotels here
> as well.
>
> The criteria I hear from many is simply cost. Miami was
> great but
> the cost was high. If we want to attract many we have to
> make it
> affordable.
>
>
> Ed
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> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:51:37 -0400
> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: next conference
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> Colleagues,
>
> I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
> to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
> we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
> conference for 2009, at a University in late May.
>
> We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
> to put together an exploratory committee. If we have
> sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
> New Paltz or someplace like that. And if we explored it
> and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
> to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
> conference of HV and Western Mass.
>
> Could even look at Albany!
>
> Ed
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>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 17:22:21 -0400
> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: next conference
> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Message-ID: <001601c79024$a2351a40$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
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> I just sent off an email to a bunch of local people...we shall see
> what sort
> of interest there is in that,
> Rebecca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:51 PM
> Subject: Re: next conference
>
>
>> Colleagues,
>>
>> I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
>> to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
>> we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
>> conference for 2009, at a University in late May.
>>
>> We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
>> to put together an exploratory committee. If we have
>> sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
>> New Paltz or someplace like that. And if we explored it
>> and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
>> to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
>> conference of HV and Western Mass.
>>
>> Could even look at Albany!
>>
>> Ed
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:40:36 -0400
> From: "Karen Carnabucci" <karen at companionsinhealing.com>
> Subject: FW: Conference on Dissociation
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> Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP
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> To those who are in the NY area and have an interest in dissociation,
> the NY State Society of Clinical Social Work's annual conference
> will be
> on the subject of dissociation. It will be held at the Fordham
> University Graduate Center in NYC, at 60th and Columbus Ave. this
> Saturday, May 18. There will be workshops on various aspects of
> dissociation, including one that I will be doing, The Inner Predator:
> Trauma and Dissociation in Bodily Self-Harm (eating disorders,
> self-mutilation), based on the papers I was invited to present at the
> APA's National Convention in New Orleans in August and which I
> presented
> at the National Membership Committee on Psychoanalysis in Clinical
> Social Work's National conference in Chicago in March. .
>
> Sharon Farber
>
> Sharon K. Farber, PhD.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:58:02 EDT
> From: Hug4abear at aol.com
> Subject: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community
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> To all:
>
> I appreciate watching the dialogue about how we can make the ASGPP a
> stronger organization and increasing the size of the psychodrama
> community,
> including the view that we need to do a better job of drawing in a
> certain segment of
> the population that is seriously under represented in our
> community; namely,
> post-baby-boomers (people born after the early 1960s). Perhaps two
> additional metrics for measuring the success of the annual
> conference (and the
> psychodrama community) could be: (1) how many first time attendees
> we have
> attracted; and (2) are we increasing the demographic diversity of
> the community.
> Does the ASGPP track these data points?
>
> I have several thoughts on these issues. First, it seems to me
> that the
> issue of ensuring the long term viability of the ASGPP and the
> psychodrama
> community may involve numerous issue, not merely bringing the cost
> of the annual
> conference down. Has there ever been a formal study that looked at
> the issue
> of long-term planning for our community? Some questions that
> could be
> addressed: What are the typical points of entry to the
> psychodrama community?
> (Based upon anecdotal evidence, I do not think that most people?s
> first exposure
> to psychodrama is the ASGPP annual conference.) Do we know how
> first time
> attendee have heard about the annual conference? Are there
> segments of the
> population that we are not reaching, such as current students who
> are studying
> to be mental health professionals or professionals in other allied
> fields
> that could use psychodrama? What are the ASGPP and the
> psychodrama community
> doing well when it comes to drawing in new people? What is not
> working? If it
> has not already been done, does it make sense for the organization
> to draft
> a formal plan that would help to raise everyone?s consciousness on
> the steps
> that we can take individually and collectively to attract new
> people to the
> organization and the psychodrama community?
>
> Some things that come to mind that may be factors in our inability to
> attract post-baby boomers from joining our community, include:
>
> (1) Lack of knowledge of psychodrama ? how much outreach is being
> done? Is
> there someway that we can better utilize the Internet to publicize
> the ASGPP
> and the psychodrama community? For example, is there some way
> that we could
> have a link to our organization?s web site on the web sites of other
> organizations that are populated by people who would be interested
> in psychodrama,
> such as the American Group Psychotherapy Association. Do
> psychodramatist and
> trainers who have web sites include a link to the ASGPP and our
> conference?
> Post-Baby-Boomers tend to be very computer savvy and this seems
> like a
> necessary form of out-reach.
>
> (2) Attending the full conference involves being willing to invest
> a lot of
> time and money. For someone who has little or no exposure to
> psychodrama,
> reviewing the brochure and figuring out that you can stick your toe
> in the water
> rather than attending the full conference is difficult to learn.
> This
> information is generally nestled in the sign-up form at the end of
> the workshop
> listing. The conference brochure and the organization do not heavily
> publicize that an attendee may attend only a portion of the
> conference, such as a
> pre-conference workshop or just one day of the conference. Is
> there some way
> that we can better publicize (perhaps on the front of the brochure)
> this option
> and publicize that someone who likes what they see may sign up for
> more
> workshops?
>
> (3) Are there additional things that our organizations can do to
> ensure that
> newcomers feel welcome? I know that we have a special event for
> first time
> attendees. Does it may make sense for there to be recommended
> workshops for
> first time attendees?
>
> Steve Gordon
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 23:00:19 -0400
> From: "Sandy Blackman" <theatergirl at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 09:26:22 +0200
> From: "Michael Wieser" <Michael.Wieser at uni-klu.ac.at>
> Subject: Moreno museum
> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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> Dear colleagues,
> Zerka asked me to spread her letter in internet:
>
> "To the World-Wide Psychodrama Community
>
> It was a great, heartfelt pleasure to read the letter from the
> Mayor of
> Bad Voeslau, the city where my late husband, J.L. Moreno, had been
> Public Health Officer from 1918-1925, positively supporting the plans
> for The Moreno Museum organized by the European Psychodrama community.
> It is located at Maital No. 4, in that city.
>
> I feel quite certain that his spirit resides there because before he
> died he expressed regret that he was unable to buy the house. I did
> not
> think that absentee ownership was desirable.
>
> Thank you for making his dream reality.
>
> Zerka T. Moreno
> Charlottesville
> Virginia, USA"
>
> Please visit our new homepage: www.moreno-museum.at and click the
> donate button. To buy the house the owner asks us for EURO 180000.
>
> Warmly
> Michael
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> Michael Wieser, Assistenz-Prof.Mag.Dr.
> Alpen-Adria-Universitaet Klagenfurt
> Fakultaet fuer Kulturwissenschaft
> Institut fuer Psychologie, Studienprogrammleiter
> Abteilung fuer Klinische Psychologie, Psychotherapie und Psychoanalyse
> Universitaetsstr. 65-67
> 9020 Klagenfurt, Austria, Europe
> Tel.: (43-463) 2700-1636
> Fax: (43-463) 2700-1696
> E-Mail: michael.wieser at uni-klu.ac.at
> Homepage: http://www.uni-klu.ac.at/~mwieser
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> ------------
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:48:17 -0400
> From: "Kim Cox" <kimbo.cox at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> Following up on my classmate Sandy's e-mail, I want to share with
> you that I
> was also at the Networker conference and have been meaning to share
> with you
> an experience I had there.
>
> I enjoyed an all-day session on Virginia Satir, watching and
> discussing a
> video of her doing a workshop with therapists. By the end of the
> day I was
> attempting to share with the BIG group in the room that a lot of what
> Virginia was doing in the video was very similar to Moreno's work.
> I was
> also curious about what the presenter thought. The presenter, Steve
> Andreas,
> negated everything I said and indicated his "wariness" when it
> comes to
> psychodrama. One or two people in the audience agreed with him, and
> no one
> else spoke up, so I kept talking. (I could feel Virginia's and
> J.L.'sspirits supporting me!) His main argument was that auxiliary
> work in
> psychodrama is too dangerous and the wrong non-verbals can "really
> mess
> someone up." When I pressed him about the auxiliaries in Virginia's
> video,
> he said, "Oh they are just caricatures, that's different." Hmmm...a
> bit
> oxymoronic if you ask me.
>
> Anyway, by the time I talked to Mr. Andreas after the day was over,
> I came
> to discover that he had only seen psychodrama once and that it was
> a very
> long time ago.
>
> What a "danger" it is for people in the mental health field to talk
> as if
> they are knowledgable about psychodrama when they really are not,
> and then
> this is passed on to a large group of people!
>
> I know Rich Simon, the head of the Networker, and continue to keep
> on him to
> bring more expressive therapy stuff into his conferences, as the
> Networker
> is no longer family-therapy-only oriented.
>
> But I also want to encourage expressive therapists, including all
> of you, to
> consider sending in a proposal for the Networker conference. It's
> in March
> every year at the same hotel in Washington, DC, and as Sandy said,
> attracts
> a huge crowd (including a lot of young people).
>
> :-) Kim
>
> I'm wondering if also other psychology/therapy communities could
> benefit. I
>> recently attended the national Psychotherapy Networker conference
>> in DC with
>> nearly 4000 people. While a good portion of the therapists there
>> mainly do
>> "talk therapy," so many of the people I talked to got so excited
>> and sounded
>> so interested about psychodrama (and other action-based or expressive
>> therapies) and had never gotten around to or found it convenient
>> to get
>> training. Not to mention the playback workshop I went to where 30
>> therapists with zero psychodrama/playback/etc. experience left
>> extremely
>> motivated to do more.
>>
>> All it took for me was one random affordable workshop in
>> psychodrama to
>> lead me to an interest in the field itself. Couldn't it do the
>> same for
>> others?
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Sandy Blackman
>>
>>
>> P.S. Thanks all for making my first conference so great! I will
>> definitely be coming back for more :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> "Real is better than perfect." - Dorothy Satten
>
> "Do one thing every day that scares you." - Eleanor Roosevelt
>
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>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:56:57 -0400
> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> Thank you Sandy and Kim for your extremely valuable contributions to
> this discussion.
> Ed Schreiber
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:00:18 EDT
> From: ROROBEAR at aol.com
> Subject: Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>
> Sandy
> Thank you for your comments. I am hoping that others in our community
> respond to you also.
> Your quality of thought was right on target.
> We do need to individually or collectively bring psychodrama
> into other
> meetings.
> It is essential that our workshop leaders interconnect their topic
> with the
> theory and practice of psychodrama at the ASGPP conferences.
> You may want to find out how his workshop was chosen.
> Rosalie Minkin TEP
> workshop presenter
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:29:11 EDT
> From: Hug4abear at aol.com
> Subject: Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> community
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>
> Sandy, Kim & Rosalie:
>
> Thanks for your response to my email.
>
> Sandy, I believe that it is particularly important for our
> community to
> understand why new attendees to the conference have recently joined
> our community
> and to work from that information. So, your email is very helpful.
>
> Steve Gordon
>
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:49:51 -0400
> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> Subject: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Thanks to many who have sent emails and notes
> we are putting together a World Wide Birthday Gift
> for Zerka Moreno as she turns 90!
>
> This is a LAST CALL for contributions. I depart
> on May 24 for Colorado then right down to Zerka's
> where I will deliver the book.
>
> So anyone wanting to add a note or email please
> do so before May 20.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:51:28 EDT
> From: ROROBEAR at aol.com
> Subject: Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> Ed
> Lets talk in the evening
> R
>
>
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:52:44 -0400
> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> okdoky since I fell asleep last night baby!
> On May 7, 2007, at 9:51 AM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Ed
>> Lets talk in the evening
>> R
>>
>>
>>
>> See what's free at AOL.com.
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> Message: 16
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:26:45 -0400
> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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> Dear Dale
>
> What an excellent email---researcher, leader, and compassionate
> person! I agree that the discussion of the annual meeting is about
> much more than the cost in finances. I think it is much more about
> leadership and the exclusion of many for the inclusion of the few
> over the years. Far different from Moreno's sharing of the
> sociometric wealth as a goal.
>
> I think your analysis that 40% of the people who attend are
> presenters is a very important finding. As I said, I did not come
> due to health concerns in the end. But I would have been more
> motivated if the 2nd of my workshops had been accepted that would
> have brought my American students to the conference with me. THe one
> that was accepted was about TSM in Asia and so did not increase
> attendance, because my co-presenter, a psychologist from Taiwan, was
> already doing two other presentations. When the workshop with Cathy
> Wilson and Judy Hoy was not accepted they did not come to the
> conference. if they had others would have joined them.
>
> Glad to see you taking the leadreship along with Ed. I have hope.
> Kate
>
> On May 4, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Dale Richard Buchanan wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have been concerned about some of the postings
>> regarding the costs of the annual meeting. I think
>> before we create a new conserve we should carefully
>> review where we have been, where we want to go, and
>> the consequences, anticipated and unintended, of the
>> new conserve.
>>
>> We must all take one step back and breathe. One of
>> the reasons why I believe that we have such confusion
>> and dissension about the annual meeting is that we
>> have not all agreed to the benchmarks that would
>> signify success for the annual meeting. Some of the
>> benchmarks that I have proposed in the past are the
>> following: Net Income (income from the annual meeting
>> minus all annual meetings expenses), number of total
>> attenders, and number of first time attenders. Now,
>> if we had that information, over time, we could track
>> whether or not the annual meeting was a success. We
>> could also do a graph of these with another item such
>> as hotel room cost that would give us a better idea of
>> the correlation of the room expense with the
>> benchmarks. I know I could get us a very good deal at
>> a summer camp in North Dakota, but don't think the
>> attendance would be very good even if it was very
>> cheap (smile).
>>
>> To my understanding the Miami Annual meeting was one
>> of the least expensive in many a year. Airfare into
>> and from Miami or Ft. Lauderdale are among the lowest
>> in the country. I just paid $149 for a roundtrip
>> airfare from DC to Miami. AIrfares from the Coast
>> seldom exceed $300 versus the $440 I just paid for
>> roundtrip to Seattlle. The hotel costs in Miami were
>> among the lowest ever with a cost of just $109. The
>> Chairs (Mary Bellofatto, Nancy Kirsener & Sue McMunn)
>> also made arrangements for room sharing with up to
>> four persons in a room.
>> Thanks to the Chairs frugal spending the conference
>> made a lot of money but the attendance was very low --
>> about two hundred below San Francisco which was much
>> more expensive, and about 150 below this year's
>> conference which was also expensive.
>>
>> Beware of unintended consequences! When Zerka was
>> President, and I was her Vice-President we listened to
>> the membership nd they wanted a less expensive annual
>> meeting. We tried an experiment by going to the
>> Poconos at a retreat center. We did everything that
>> was asked: leisure time to connect with others, good
>> inexpensive food in family style dining, inexpensive
>> lodging, recreational facilities to enjoy, etc. Well,
>> in the Poconos we have about 1/4 the attendance of the
>> New York Conference. The worst was that while we had
>> met or exceeded all the above expectations most said
>> they would never go to this type of annual meeting
>> again. Why, because they were upset that they were
>> not able to offer a workshop. Due to space
>> limitations we only had three or four workshops in
>> each time slot and we limited, at the suggestion of
>> the members, the number of sessions per day to so that
>> people could meet informally. Thus, this
>> disgruntlement over not presenting was a large
>> unintended consequence that was not anticipated.
>>
>> After this I discovered that usually about 40% of the
>> meeting attenders are conducting workshops. When we
>> limit the number of presenters then a large part of
>> the membership is unhappy and does not attend.
>> Trainers from all over the country bring their
>> students and want to be recognized for their training
>> skills and they want their trainees to see their names
>> on the annual program.
>>
>> I don't know the answers to people's concerns about
>> expenses, but I do know that we must first agree on
>> what equals success for the annual meeting. If we met
>> in a retreat center with 200 attenders when we had 465
>> in San Francisco and 391 in Brooklyn would the retreat
>> be a success. I also think that in many ways the
>> "expense" of the conference is a scapegoat for many
>> others concerns that we have for the annual meeting.
>>
>> I am excited about this discussion and hope that you
>> realize that no matter what we say or do on grouptalk
>> it is the leadership of the ASGPP that will make all
>> final decisions.
>>
>> Peace, Dale Richard Buchanan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:27:58 -0400
> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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> yes Rosalie. I think our family does need help. I am glad you are
> part of it and you were one of the people I missed by not coming to
> NY due to health concerns. Tele, Kate
>
> On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Peace to you too Dale
>> Your clarity and knowledge of both the pros and cons of our
>> society's annual conferences hopefully raises a lot thought. Your
>> words echoed my sentiments.
>>
>> I am currently questioning; how come, where are we, how did this
>> happen and what are our plans?
>> it is my belief that Our Psychodrama Family needs help
>> Let's get our creative juices running folks..
>> I will help in whatever capacity I can.
>> Rosalie
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>
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> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
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> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:28:27 -0400
> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> Good luck and Support to John R. Kate
>
> On May 4, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>
>> On Ms. Minkin's comments: "how come, where are we, how did this
>> happen and what are our plans?"
>> it's my opinion that these are right and good questions we could
>> all be thinking about! And in my opinion
>> John R. has a good spirit so with luck we can all support this
>> effort of renewal.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Peace to you too Dale
>>> Your clarity and knowledge of both the pros and cons of our
>>> society's annual conferences hopefully raises a lot thought. Your
>>> words echoed my sentiments.
>>>
>>> I am currently questioning; how come, where are we, how did this
>>> happen and what are our plans?
>>> it is my belief that Our Psychodrama Family needs help
>>> Let's get our creative juices running folks..
>>> I will help in whatever capacity I can.
>>> Rosalie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:36:30 -0400
> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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> Kate reminds me that we are a community of inclusion.
> Ed
> On May 7, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
>
>> Good luck and Support to John R. Kate
>>
>> On May 4, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>>
>>> On Ms. Minkin's comments: "how come, where are we, how did this
>>> happen and what are our plans?"
>>> it's my opinion that these are right and good questions we could
>>> all be thinking about! And in my opinion
>>> John R. has a good spirit so with luck we can all support this
>>> effort of renewal.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peace to you too Dale
>>>> Your clarity and knowledge of both the pros and cons of our
>>>> society's annual conferences hopefully raises a lot thought. Your
>>>> words echoed my sentiments.
>>>>
>>>> I am currently questioning; how come, where are we, how did this
>>>> happen and what are our plans?
>>>> it is my belief that Our Psychodrama Family needs help
>>>> Let's get our creative juices running folks..
>>>> I will help in whatever capacity I can.
>>>> Rosalie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See what's free at AOL.com.
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>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>
>> Clinical Psychologist
>> Director of Training
>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>> drkatetsi at mac.com
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> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:37:49 -0400
> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: annual meeting
> To: connie at souldrama.com, list at grouptalkweb.org
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> yes, I fully agree, that a university is the BEST setting. I have
> gone to both BPA and ANZPA where they did hold it in universities.
> It was fun to stay in a dorm room and remember college days. Kate
>
> On May 4, 2007, at 11:10 PM, Connie Miller wrote:
>
>> I agree with you Dale. The other suggestion may be to hold our
>> conference in a University as they dis when I attended Oxford and
>> also when I presented last July in Brazil at the University in Sao
>> Paulo. This may also attract university students and faculty.
>>
>> Connie Miller
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> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:38:14 -0400
> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: annual meeting
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> that's interesting. Have we ever had a conference in Texas? Kate
>
> On May 4, 2007, at 11:15 PM, thana ag wrote:
>
>>
>> A good idea would be to think of Austin,with its huge University
>> and plenty
>> of housing possibilities.
>> anath garber
>>
>>> From: "Connie Miller" <connie at souldrama.com>
>>> Reply-To: connie at souldrama.com, list at grouptalkweb.org
>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>> Subject: annual meeting
>>> Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 03:10:55 +0000
>>>
>>> I agree with you Dale. The other suggestion may be to hold our
>>> conference
>>> in a University as they dis when I attended Oxford and also when I
>>> presented last July in Brazil at the University in Sao Paulo. This
>>> may also
>>> attract university students and faculty.
>>>
>>> Connie Miller
>>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:38:44 -0400
> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: conference
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> could we do it over spring break or in the summer? Kate
>
> On May 4, 2007, at 11:39 PM, Linda Condon wrote:
>
>> It's great to hear the dialogue. One of the issues to consider is
>> that in April most universities are in session and that would
>> severely limit the number of group rooms that would be available.
>> One of the things I value most about the annual meeting is the
>> diversity and number of workshop presentations. I'd hate to lose
>> that aspect. Linda Condon
>>
>> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
>> Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:46:38 -0400
> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: conference
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> Rebecca Walters of HVPTI has put out a call
> to local folks here in Western MASS and "lower"
> NY State asking: Let's form a exploratory
> committee combining energy and effort from
> Western MASS and Hudson Valley - and in
> that effort let's see if we can find a conference
> site at a University for the ASGPP 2009 Conference.
> If found, if there's energy to do this all the way through,
> perhaps we can together bring the Conference to
> one of the two valleys (Pioneer Valley of Western MASS
> with Smith College, Amherst College, Hampshire College,
> U.Mass., Mt. Hoyloke College) and the Hudson Valley
> with may colleges and university settings too.
>
> A Valley Conference! So the train has left the station,
> all aboard - who wants to go for the ride of exploration
> of renewal for our dear conference!
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:19:59 -0400
> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: conference
> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Message-ID: <002101c790bb$2d522230$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
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>
> I think it might be a wise idea to consider putting on a local
> conference
> before we take on putting on a national conference. Just a thought...I
> already have two people interested in being on an exploratory
> committee.
> Rebecca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: conference
>
>
>> Rebecca Walters of HVPTI has put out a call
>> to local folks here in Western MASS and "lower"
>> NY State asking: Let's form a exploratory
>> committee combining energy and effort from
>> Western MASS and Hudson Valley - and in
>> that effort let's see if we can find a conference
>> site at a University for the ASGPP 2009 Conference.
>> If found, if there's energy to do this all the way through,
>> perhaps we can together bring the Conference to
>> one of the two valleys (Pioneer Valley of Western MASS
>> with Smith College, Amherst College, Hampshire College,
>> U.Mass., Mt. Hoyloke College) and the Hudson Valley
>> with may colleges and university settings too.
>>
>> A Valley Conference! So the train has left the station,
>> all aboard - who wants to go for the ride of exploration
>> of renewal for our dear conference!
>>
>> Ed
>>
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>
>
>
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> Message: 25
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:23:32 -0400
> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: conference
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> I love what you say because I stand at the opposite pole: I think we
> should just go for the
> national conference and not do the local. E
> On May 7, 2007, at 11:19 AM, HV Psychodrama wrote:
>
>> I think it might be a wise idea to consider putting on a local
>> conference
>> before we take on putting on a national conference. Just a
>> thought...I
>> already have two people interested in being on an exploratory
>> committee.
>> Rebecca
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: conference
>>
>>
>>> Rebecca Walters of HVPTI has put out a call
>>> to local folks here in Western MASS and "lower"
>>> NY State asking: Let's form a exploratory
>>> committee combining energy and effort from
>>> Western MASS and Hudson Valley - and in
>>> that effort let's see if we can find a conference
>>> site at a University for the ASGPP 2009 Conference.
>>> If found, if there's energy to do this all the way through,
>>> perhaps we can together bring the Conference to
>>> one of the two valleys (Pioneer Valley of Western MASS
>>> with Smith College, Amherst College, Hampshire College,
>>> U.Mass., Mt. Hoyloke College) and the Hudson Valley
>>> with may colleges and university settings too.
>>>
>>> A Valley Conference! So the train has left the station,
>>> all aboard - who wants to go for the ride of exploration
>>> of renewal for our dear conference!
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 26
> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:56:58 -0400
> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>
> yes, we NEED to be. Kate
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>
>> Kate reminds me that we are a community of inclusion.
>> Ed
>> On May 7, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
>>
>>> Good luck and Support to John R. Kate
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Ms. Minkin's comments: "how come, where are we, how did this
>>>> happen and what are our plans?"
>>>> it's my opinion that these are right and good questions we could
>>>> all be thinking about! And in my opinion
>>>> John R. has a good spirit so with luck we can all support this
>>>> effort of renewal.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Peace to you too Dale
>>>>> Your clarity and knowledge of both the pros and cons of our
>>>>> society's annual conferences hopefully raises a lot thought.
>>>>> Your words echoed my sentiments.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently questioning; how come, where are we, how did
>>>>> this happen and what are our plans?
>>>>> it is my belief that Our Psychodrama Family needs help
>>>>> Let's get our creative juices running folks..
>>>>> I will help in whatever capacity I can.
>>>>> Rosalie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> See what's free at AOL.com.
>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>>
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>>>
>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>>
>>> Clinical Psychologist
>>> Director of Training
>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
>>>
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> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:12:26 -0400
> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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> The divisions among us keep the circle broken.
>
> TIAN DAYTON in the brilliantly done workshop by the Journal Executive
> Editors
> and Heldref (who was there too) said: "the circle is broken" in
> reference to the
> sociometrics of the role-functioning and dynamics of the Society with
> writing for
> the Journal.
>
> Their leadership was so profoundly skilled that in-situ, in the
> workshop we were
> able to bring the circle full circle to inclusion.
>
> In the years of going to conferences, theirs was one the most skilled
> workshops I
> have experienced. Their leadership was amazing.
>
> So: the circle was broken by all of us I guess and now it is being
> healed.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> (by the way - their workshop was so skillful bringing Morenean theory
> into real-life action)
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
>
>> yes, we NEED to be. Kate
>>
>> On May 7, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>>
>>> Kate reminds me that we are a community of inclusion.
>>> Ed
>>> On May 7, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good luck and Support to John R. Kate
>>>>
>>>> On May 4, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Ms. Minkin's comments: "how come, where are we, how did this
>>>>> happen and what are our plans?"
>>>>> it's my opinion that these are right and good questions we could
>>>>> all be thinking about! And in my opinion
>>>>> John R. has a good spirit so with luck we can all support this
>>>>> effort of renewal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peace to you too Dale
>>>>>> Your clarity and knowledge of both the pros and cons of our
>>>>>> society's annual conferences hopefully raises a lot thought.
>>>>>> Your words echoed my sentiments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am currently questioning; how come, where are we, how did
>>>>>> this happen and what are our plans?
>>>>>> it is my belief that Our Psychodrama Family needs help
>>>>>> Let's get our creative juices running folks..
>>>>>> I will help in whatever capacity I can.
>>>>>> Rosalie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See what's free at AOL.com.
>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>>>
>>>> Clinical Psychologist
>>>> Director of Training
>>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>
>> Clinical Psychologist
>> Director of Training
>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>> drkatetsi at mac.com
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