List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10future plans

Mon May 7 13:21:05 CDT 2007

Hello all: I am enjoying the creative ideas that have been generated and
thought I might share feedback I have rec'd from folks who have attended
presentations which I have given at various conferences (other than ASGPP)
in the past two years ( Renfrew Eating Disorders Conference, Drama Therapy
Conference, Bodypsychotherapy Conference,  and various local conferences ).
The feedback about the workshops was very positive and for many folks their
first exposure to Action Methods. There was definitely an interest expressed
in more training by the other mental health professionals.  I give out pens
with my web address whenever I present and encourage folks to check out the
links on my website, to the ASGPP, e.g.In addition,I try to show or give
case examples of how action methods can work conjointly with other
modalities such as bodypsychotherapy,etc. etc., and try to show how safety
can be increased through action methods appropriately used ( this helps
counteract  the belief that it is dangerous and should be avoided ) . As a
result, someone from the USBodypsychotherapy Assn. Contacted me and will
interview me on May 14 for their audio web program about how I combine
psychodrama and bodypsychotherapy in my work. I also forward articles either
electronically or snail mail if need be to colleagues about an action method
topic that I think is particularly relevant to their area of interest. In
other words, I just try to do whatever I can think of to keep "warming
people up" . I know Connie Miller, Rebecca Ridge, and  many  others have
done similar things. If each of us brought just one new person to the
method, the organization, and the conference each year, that'd be a good
start! Warmly, Linda Ciotola 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: next conference (Adam Blatner)
   2. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
   3. Re: next conference (Edward Schreiber)
   4. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
   5. FW:  Conference on Dissociation (Karen Carnabucci)
   6. Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
      community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
   7. RE: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
      community (Sandy Blackman)
   8. Moreno museum (Michael Wieser)
   9. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
      community (Kim Cox)
  10. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
      community (Edward Schreiber)
  11. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
      community (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
  12. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
      community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
  13. World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward Schreiber)
  14. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
  15. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward Schreiber)
  16. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
  17. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
  18. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
  19. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward Schreiber)
  20. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
  21. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
  22. Re: conference (Dr Kate Hudgins)
  23. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
  24. Re: conference (HV Psychodrama)
  25. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
  26. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
  27. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward Schreiber)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 13:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adam Blatner <ablatner at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: next conference
To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the motivation or
willingness to attend the national conference and if so, what will that do
to the asgpp as a national organization?  adam

HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:          Ed, Michael, and others who
live in Western Mass/Albany area/New Paltz  What if we got together and
planned a two day conference for people who live locally? Had anyone else
done that...is there a template out there for creating and running a short
conference? Anyone interested in helping to create a template if there isn't
one already?
Rebecca
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: PATRICIA DESERT 
  To: list at grouptalkweb.org 
  Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
  Subject: Re: next conference

    And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well including John
Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U., and Morgan.  Towson
University is a state school and could be even more affordable than the
private colleges.  

  Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of folks who would
have rooms in their homes to let for the weekend.  For example, I have two
bedrooms available and if the conference were in Baltimore I could create
such a list.  What a nice experience for folks from other countries to
experience a welcoming American family and home life as well as the
conference.     

  Patti

   ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Edward Schreiber 
  To: list at grouptalkweb.org 
  Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
  Subject: Re: next conference

Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith College, University  
of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt. Holyoke  
College.   We could find one college, I am sure, to house a  
conference in 2009.  Colleges end mid-May, so we would have to have  
an early June conference.  The conference could include, for those  
who wanted, rental of a dorm room.  There are hotels here as well.

The criteria I hear from many is simply cost.  Miami was great but  
the cost was high.   If we want to attract many we have to make it  
affordable.

Ed

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:28:04 -0400
From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: next conference
To: <adam at blatner.com>, <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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    I think if it planned right, in terms of timing, it will not interfere,
but perhaps inspire people to attend the national conference. Look, the
bottom line is that  any number of folks cannot afford to travel to the
places we hold the national conferences. They don't get to enjoy the sense
of community that develops around the love of psychodrama that those of us
who travel every year to the national conferences enjoy. My hope would be
that local conferences would get and keep people engaged with the method,
and perhaps they would in turn attend the national conference at another
time. Think of it as advanced marketing.
  Next years conference is in Texas. I know most of my students are not
going to attend. Why not have a conference here in the east that would keep
them connected until the conference returns to the north east. The other
thing would be to be sure to hold it at a different time, certainly not
April if that is when than national conference is held.
   I think it would be  a terrific marketing idea for psychodramatists in
Texas to hold one of two short conferences this fall, to help develop a
taste for an experience that will be fulfilled at the national conference
next spring.
Rebecca
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adam Blatner 
  To: list at grouptalkweb.org 
  Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:04 PM
  Subject: Re: next conference

  but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the motivation or
willingness to attend the national conference and if so, what will that do
to the asgpp as a national organization?  adam

  HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote: 
    Ed, Michael, and others who live in Western Mass/Albany area/New Paltz
What if we got together and planned a two day conference for people who live
locally? Had anyone else done that...is there a template out there for
creating and running a short conference? Anyone interested in helping to
create a template if there isn't one already?
    Rebecca
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: PATRICIA DESERT 
      To: list at grouptalkweb.org 
      Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
      Subject: Re: next conference

      And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well including
John Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U., and Morgan.  Towson
University is a state school and could be even more affordable than the
private colleges.  

      Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of folks who
would have rooms in their homes to let for the weekend.  For example, I have
two bedrooms available and if the conference were in Baltimore I could
create such a list.  What a nice experience for folks from other countries
to experience a welcoming American family and home life as well as the
conference.     

      Patti

       ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Edward Schreiber 
        To: list at grouptalkweb.org 
        Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
        Subject: Re: next conference

        Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith College,
University  
        of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt. Holyoke  
        College.   We could find one college, I am sure, to house a  
        conference in 2009.  Colleges end mid-May, so we would have to have

        an early June conference.  The conference could include, for those  
        who wanted, rental of a dorm room.  There are hotels here as well.

        The criteria I hear from many is simply cost.  Miami was great but  
        the cost was high.   If we want to attract many we have to make it  
        affordable.

        Ed

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:51:37 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: next conference
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Colleagues,

I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
conference for 2009, at a University in late May.

We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
to put together an exploratory committee.   If we have
sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
New Paltz or someplace like that.   And if we explored it
and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
conference of HV and Western Mass.

Could even look at Albany!

Ed

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 17:22:21 -0400
From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: next conference
To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Message-ID: <001601c79024$a2351a40$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
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I just sent off an email to a bunch of local people...we shall see what sort

of interest there is in that,
Rebecca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: next conference

> Colleagues,
>
> I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
> to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
> we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
> conference for 2009, at a University in late May.
>
> We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
> to put together an exploratory committee.   If we have
> sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
> New Paltz or someplace like that.   And if we explored it
> and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
> to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
> conference of HV and Western Mass.
>
> Could even look at Albany!
>
> Ed
>
> Grouptalk mailing list
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:40:36 -0400
From: "Karen Carnabucci" <karen at companionsinhealing.com>
Subject: FW:  Conference on Dissociation
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FYI see below.

Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP 
Companions In Healing 

Lake House Health &  Learning Center 
932 Lake Ave. 
Racine, WI 53403 

(262) 633-2645 
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To: DISSOCIATIVE-DISORDERS at LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG
Subject: [Clinicians_Exchange] Conference on Dissociation

To those who are in the NY area and have an interest in dissociation,
the NY State Society of Clinical Social Work's annual conference will be
on the subject of dissociation. It will be held at the Fordham
University Graduate Center in NYC, at 60th and Columbus Ave. this
Saturday, May 18. There will be workshops on various aspects of
dissociation, including one that I will be doing, The Inner Predator:
Trauma and Dissociation in Bodily Self-Harm (eating disorders,
self-mutilation), based on the papers I was invited to present at the
APA's National Convention in New Orleans in August and which I presented
at the National Membership Committee on Psychoanalysis in Clinical
Social Work's  National conference in Chicago in March. .

Sharon Farber

Sharon K. Farber, PhD.
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Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:58:02 EDT
From: Hug4abear at aol.com
Subject: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
	community
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To all:

I appreciate watching the dialogue about how we can make the ASGPP a  
stronger organization and increasing the size of the psychodrama community,

including the view that we need to do a better job of drawing in a certain
segment of 
the population that is seriously under represented in our community;
namely, 
post-baby-boomers (people born after the early 1960s).  Perhaps two  
additional metrics for measuring the success of the annual conference (and
the  
psychodrama community) could be:  (1) how many first time attendees we have

attracted; and (2) are we increasing the demographic diversity of the
community.  
Does the ASGPP track these data points?

I have several thoughts on these issues.  First, it seems to me that  the 
issue of ensuring the long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama  
community may involve numerous issue, not merely bringing the cost of the
annual  
conference down.  Has there ever been a formal study that looked at the
issue 
of long-term planning for our community?  Some questions that could  be 
addressed:  What are the typical points of entry to the psychodrama
community?  
(Based upon anecdotal evidence, I do not think that most  people?s first
exposure 
to psychodrama is the ASGPP annual conference.)  Do  we know how first time 
attendee have heard about the annual conference?   Are there segments of the

population that we are not reaching, such as current  students who are
studying 
to be mental health professionals or professionals in  other allied fields 
that could use psychodrama?  What are the ASGPP and the  psychodrama
community 
doing well when it comes to drawing in new people?   What is not working?
If it 
has not already been done, does it make sense  for the organization to draft

a formal plan that would help to raise everyone?s  consciousness on the
steps 
that we can take individually and collectively to  attract new people to the

organization and the psychodrama community?

Some things that come to mind that may be factors in our inability to  
attract post-baby boomers from joining our community, include:

(1) Lack of knowledge of psychodrama ? how much outreach is being  done?  Is

there someway that we can better utilize the Internet to  publicize the
ASGPP 
and the psychodrama community?  For example, is there  some way that we
could 
have a link to our organization?s web site on the web  sites of other 
organizations that are populated by people who would be  interested in
psychodrama, 
such as the American Group Psychotherapy  Association.  Do psychodramatist
and 
trainers who have web sites include a  link to the ASGPP and our conference?

Post-Baby-Boomers tend to be very  computer savvy and this seems like a 
necessary form of out-reach.

(2) Attending the full conference involves being willing to invest a lot of

time and money.  For someone who has little or no exposure to psychodrama,  
reviewing the brochure and figuring out that you can stick your toe in the
water 
 rather than attending the full conference is difficult to learn.  This  
information is generally nestled in the sign-up form at the end of the
workshop  
listing.  The conference brochure and the organization do not heavily  
publicize that an attendee may attend only a portion of the conference, such
as  a 
pre-conference workshop or just one day of the conference.  Is there some
way 
that we can better publicize (perhaps on the front of the brochure) this
option 
and publicize that someone who likes what they see may sign up for more  
workshops?

(3) Are there additional things that our organizations can do to ensure
that 
newcomers feel welcome?  I know that we have a special event for first  time

attendees.  Does it may make sense for there to be recommended  workshops
for 
first time attendees?

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 23:00:19 -0400
From: "Sandy Blackman" <theatergirl at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 09:26:22 +0200
From: "Michael Wieser" <Michael.Wieser at uni-klu.ac.at>
Subject: Moreno museum
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Dear colleagues,
Zerka asked me to spread her letter in internet:

"To the World-Wide Psychodrama Community

It was a great, heartfelt pleasure to read the letter from the Mayor of
Bad Voeslau, the city where my late husband, J.L. Moreno, had been
Public Health Officer from 1918-1925, positively supporting the plans
for The Moreno Museum organized by the European Psychodrama community.
It is located at Maital No. 4, in that city.

I feel quite certain that his spirit resides there because before he
died he expressed regret that he was unable to buy the house. I did not
think that absentee ownership was desirable.

Thank you for making his dream reality.

Zerka T. Moreno
Charlottesville
Virginia, USA"

Please visit our new homepage: www.moreno-museum.at and click the
donate button. To buy the house the owner asks us for EURO 180000.

Warmly
Michael

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:48:17 -0400
From: "Kim Cox" <kimbo.cox at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
	community
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Following up on my classmate Sandy's e-mail, I want to share with you that I
was also at the Networker conference and have been meaning to share with you
an experience I had there.

I enjoyed an all-day session on Virginia Satir, watching and discussing a
video of her doing a workshop with therapists. By the end of the day I was
attempting to share with the BIG group in the room that a lot of what
Virginia was doing in the video was very similar to Moreno's work. I was
also curious about what the presenter thought. The presenter, Steve Andreas,
negated everything I said and indicated his "wariness" when it comes to
psychodrama. One or two people in the audience agreed with him, and no one
else spoke up, so I kept talking. (I could feel Virginia's and
J.L.'sspirits supporting me!)  His main argument was that auxiliary
work in
psychodrama is too dangerous and the wrong non-verbals can "really mess
someone up." When I pressed him about the auxiliaries in Virginia's video,
he said, "Oh they are just caricatures, that's different." Hmmm...a bit
oxymoronic if you ask me.

Anyway, by the time I talked to Mr. Andreas after the day was over, I came
to discover that he had only seen psychodrama once and that it was a very
long time ago.

What a "danger" it is for people in the mental health field to talk as if
they are knowledgable about psychodrama when they really are not, and then
this is passed on to a large group of people!

I know Rich Simon, the head of the Networker, and continue to keep on him to
bring more expressive therapy stuff into his conferences, as the Networker
is no longer family-therapy-only oriented.

But I also want to encourage expressive therapists, including all of you, to
consider sending in a proposal for the Networker conference. It's in March
every year at the same hotel in Washington, DC, and as Sandy said, attracts
a huge crowd (including a lot of young people).

:-) Kim

I'm wondering if also other psychology/therapy communities could benefit.  I
> recently attended the national Psychotherapy Networker conference in DC
with
> nearly 4000 people.  While a good portion of the therapists there mainly
do
> "talk therapy," so many of the people I talked to got so excited and
sounded
> so interested about psychodrama (and other action-based or expressive
> therapies) and had never gotten around to or found it convenient to get
> training.  Not to mention the playback workshop I went to where 30
> therapists with zero psychodrama/playback/etc. experience left extremely
> motivated to do more.
>
> All it took for me was one random affordable workshop in psychodrama to
> lead me to an interest in the field itself.  Couldn't it do the same for
> others?
>
> :)
>
> Sandy Blackman
>
>
> P.S.  Thanks all for making my first conference so great!  I will
> definitely be coming back for more :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
-- 
"Real is better than perfect." - Dorothy Satten

"Do one thing every day that scares you." - Eleanor Roosevelt

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:56:57 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
	community
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Thank you Sandy and Kim for your extremely valuable contributions to  
this discussion.
Ed Schreiber

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:00:18 EDT
From: ROROBEAR at aol.com
Subject: Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
	community
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Sandy
Thank you for your comments. I am hoping that others in our community  
respond to you also.
Your quality of thought was right on target. 
We do need to  individually or collectively bring   psychodrama into other 
meetings. 
It is essential that our workshop leaders interconnect their topic  with the

theory and practice of psychodrama at the ASGPP  conferences. 
 You may want to find out how his workshop was chosen.
Rosalie Minkin TEP
workshop presenter 

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:29:11 EDT
From: Hug4abear at aol.com
Subject: Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
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Sandy, Kim & Rosalie:

Thanks for your response to my email.

Sandy, I believe that it is particularly important for our community to  
understand why new attendees to the conference have recently joined our
community 
and to work from that information.  So, your email is very  helpful.

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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:49:51 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno
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Dear Colleagues,

Thanks to many who have sent emails and notes
we are putting together a World Wide Birthday Gift
for Zerka Moreno as she turns 90!

This is a LAST CALL for contributions.  I depart
on May 24 for Colorado then right down to Zerka's
where I will deliver the book.

So anyone wanting to add a note or email please
do so before May 20.

Thanks!

Ed

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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:51:28 EDT
From: ROROBEAR at aol.com
Subject: Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno
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Ed
Lets talk in the evening
R 

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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 09:52:44 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno
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okdoky since I fell asleep last  night baby!
On May 7, 2007, at 9:51 AM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:

> Ed
> Lets talk in the evening
> R
>
>
>
> See what's free at AOL.com.
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:26:45 -0400
From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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Dear Dale

What an excellent email---researcher, leader, and compassionate  
person!   I agree that the discussion of the annual meeting is about  
much more than the cost in finances.  I think it is much more about  
leadership and the exclusion of many for the inclusion of the few  
over the years.  Far different from Moreno's sharing of the  
sociometric wealth as a goal.

I think your analysis that 40% of the people who attend are  
presenters is a very important finding.  As I said, I did not come  
due to health concerns in the end.  But I would have been more  
motivated if the 2nd of my workshops had been accepted that would  
have brought my American students to the conference with me.  THe one  
that was accepted was about TSM in Asia and so did not increase  
attendance, because my co-presenter, a psychologist from Taiwan, was  
already doing two other presentations.  When the workshop with Cathy  
Wilson and Judy Hoy was not accepted they did not come to the  
conference.  if they had others would have joined them.

Glad to see you taking the leadreship along with Ed.  I have hope.  Kate

On May 4, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Dale Richard Buchanan wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I have been concerned about some of the postings
> regarding the costs of the annual meeting.  I think
> before we create a new conserve we should carefully
> review where we have been, where we want to go, and
> the consequences, anticipated and unintended, of the
> new conserve.
>
> We must all take one step back and breathe.  One of
> the reasons why I believe that we have such confusion
> and dissension about the annual meeting is that we
> have not all agreed to the benchmarks that would
> signify success for the annual meeting.  Some of the
> benchmarks  that I have proposed in the past are the
> following:  Net Income (income from the annual meeting
> minus all annual meetings expenses), number of total
> attenders, and number of first time attenders.  Now,
> if we had that information, over time, we could track
> whether or not the annual meeting was a success.  We
> could also do a graph of these with another item such
> as hotel room cost that would give us a better idea of
> the correlation of the room expense with the
> benchmarks.  I know I could get us a very good deal at
> a summer camp in North Dakota, but don't think the
> attendance would be very good even if it was very
> cheap (smile).
>
> To my understanding the Miami Annual meeting was one
> of the least expensive in many a year.  Airfare into
> and from Miami or Ft. Lauderdale are among the lowest
> in the country.  I just paid $149 for a roundtrip
> airfare from DC to Miami.  AIrfares from the Coast
> seldom exceed $300 versus the $440 I just paid for
> roundtrip to Seattlle.  The hotel costs in Miami were
> among the lowest ever with a cost of just $109.  The
> Chairs (Mary Bellofatto, Nancy Kirsener & Sue McMunn)
> also made arrangements for room sharing with up to
> four persons in a room.
> Thanks to the Chairs frugal spending the conference
> made a lot of money but the attendance was very low --
> about two hundred below San Francisco which was much
> more expensive, and about 150 below this year's
> conference which was also expensive.
>
> Beware of unintended consequences!  When Zerka was
> President, and I was her Vice-President we listened to
> the membership nd they wanted a less expensive annual
> meeting.  We tried an experiment by going to the
> Poconos at a retreat center.  We did everything that
> was asked:  leisure time to connect with others, good
> inexpensive food in family style dining, inexpensive
> lodging, recreational facilities to enjoy, etc.  Well,
> in the Poconos we have about 1/4 the attendance of the
> New York Conference.   The worst was that while we had
> met or exceeded all the above expectations most  said
> they would never go to this type of annual meeting
> again.  Why, because they were upset that they were
> not able to offer a workshop.  Due to space
> limitations we only had three or four workshops in
> each time slot and we limited, at the suggestion of
> the members, the number of sessions per day to so that
> people could meet informally.  Thus, this
> disgruntlement over not presenting was a large
> unintended consequence that was not anticipated.
>
> After this I discovered that usually about 40% of the
> meeting attenders are conducting workshops.  When we
> limit the number of presenters then a large part of
> the membership is unhappy and does not attend.
> Trainers from all over the country bring their
> students and want to be recognized for their training
> skills and they want their trainees to see their names
> on the annual program.
>
> I don't know the answers to people's concerns about
> expenses, but I do know that we must first agree on
> what equals success for the annual meeting.  If we met
> in a retreat center with 200 attenders when we had 465
> in San Francisco and 391 in Brooklyn would the retreat
> be a success.  I also think that in many ways the
> "expense" of the conference is a scapegoat for many
> others concerns that we have for the annual meeting.
>
> I am excited about this discussion and hope that you
> realize that no matter what we say or do on grouptalk
> it is the leadership of the ASGPP that will make all
> final decisions.
>
> Peace, Dale Richard Buchanan
>
>
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>
>
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:27:58 -0400
From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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yes Rosalie.  I think our family does need help.  I am glad you are  
part of it and you were one of the people I missed by not coming to  
NY due to health concerns.  Tele, Kate

On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:

>
> Peace to you too Dale
> Your clarity and knowledge of both the pros and cons of our  
> society's annual conferences hopefully raises a lot thought. Your  
> words  echoed my  sentiments.
>
> I am currently questioning;  how come, where are we, how did this  
> happen and what are our plans?
> it is my belief that  Our Psychodrama Family needs help
> Let's get our creative juices running folks..
> I will help in whatever capacity I can.
> Rosalie
>
>
>
>
> See what's free at AOL.com.
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:28:27 -0400
From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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Good luck and Support to John R.  Kate

On May 4, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:

> On Ms. Minkin's comments: "how come, where are we, how did this  
> happen and what are our plans?"
> it's my opinion that these are right and good questions we could  
> all be thinking about!  And in my opinion
> John R. has a good spirit so with luck we can all support this  
> effort of renewal.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Peace to you too Dale
>> Your clarity and knowledge of both the pros and cons of our  
>> society's annual conferences hopefully raises a lot thought. Your  
>> words  echoed my  sentiments.
>>
>> I am currently questioning;  how come, where are we, how did this  
>> happen and what are our plans?
>> it is my belief that  Our Psychodrama Family needs help
>> Let's get our creative juices running folks..
>> I will help in whatever capacity I can.
>> Rosalie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> See what's free at AOL.com.
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>> List at grouptalkweb.org
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>
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Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:36:30 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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Kate reminds me that we are a community of inclusion.
Ed
On May 7, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:

> Good luck and Support to John R.  Kate
>
> On May 4, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>
>> On Ms. Minkin's comments: "how come, where are we, how did this  
>> happen and what are our plans?"
>> it's my opinion that these are right and good questions we could  
>> all be thinking about!  And in my opinion
>> John R. has a good spirit so with luck we can all support this  
>> effort of renewal.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Peace to you too Dale
>>> Your clarity and knowledge of both the pros and cons of our  
>>> society's annual conferences hopefully raises a lot thought. Your  
>>> words  echoed my  sentiments.
>>>
>>> I am currently questioning;  how come, where are we, how did this  
>>> happen and what are our plans?
>>> it is my belief that  Our Psychodrama Family needs help
>>> Let's get our creative juices running folks..
>>> I will help in whatever capacity I can.
>>> Rosalie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:37:49 -0400
From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
Subject: Re: annual meeting
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yes, I fully agree, that a university is the BEST setting.  I have  
gone to both BPA and ANZPA where they did hold it in universities.   
It was fun to stay in a dorm room and remember college days.  Kate

On May 4, 2007, at 11:10 PM, Connie Miller wrote:

> I agree with you Dale.  The other suggestion may be to hold our  
> conference in a University as they dis when I attended Oxford and  
> also when I presented last July in Brazil at the University in Sao  
> Paulo. This may also attract university students and faculty.
>
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:38:14 -0400
From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
Subject: Re: annual meeting
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that's interesting. Have we ever had a conference in Texas?  Kate

On May 4, 2007, at 11:15 PM, thana ag wrote:

>
> A good idea would be to think of  Austin,with its huge University  
> and plenty
> of housing possibilities.
> anath garber
>
>> From: "Connie Miller" <connie at souldrama.com>
>> Reply-To: connie at souldrama.com, list at grouptalkweb.org
>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>> Subject: annual meeting
>> Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 03:10:55 +0000
>>
>> I agree with you Dale. The other suggestion may be to hold our  
>> conference
>> in a University as they dis when I attended Oxford and also when I
>> presented last July in Brazil at the University in Sao Paulo. This  
>> may also
>> attract university students and faculty.
>>
>> Connie Miller
>>
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Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:38:44 -0400
From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
Subject: Re: conference
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could we do it over spring break or in the summer?  Kate

On May 4, 2007, at 11:39 PM, Linda Condon wrote:

> It's great to hear the dialogue.  One of the issues to consider is  
> that in April most universities are in session and that would  
> severely limit the number of group rooms that would be available.   
> One of the things I value most about the annual meeting is the  
> diversity and number of workshop presentations.  I'd hate to lose  
> that aspect.  Linda Condon
>
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
> Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 10:46:38 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: conference
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Rebecca Walters of HVPTI has put out a call
to local folks here in Western MASS and "lower"
NY State asking:   Let's form a exploratory
committee combining energy and effort from
Western MASS and Hudson Valley - and in
that effort let's see if we can find a conference
site at a University for the ASGPP 2009 Conference.
If found, if there's energy to do this all the way through,
perhaps we can together bring the Conference to
one of the two valleys (Pioneer Valley of Western MASS
with Smith College, Amherst College, Hampshire College,
U.Mass., Mt. Hoyloke College) and the Hudson Valley
with may colleges and university settings too.

A Valley Conference!  So the train has left the station,
all aboard - who wants to go for the ride of exploration
of renewal for our dear conference!

Ed

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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:19:59 -0400
From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: conference
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I think it might be a wise idea to consider putting on a local conference 
before we take on putting on a national conference. Just a thought...I 
already have two people interested in being on an exploratory committee.
Rebecca
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: conference

> Rebecca Walters of HVPTI has put out a call
> to local folks here in Western MASS and "lower"
> NY State asking:   Let's form a exploratory
> committee combining energy and effort from
> Western MASS and Hudson Valley - and in
> that effort let's see if we can find a conference
> site at a University for the ASGPP 2009 Conference.
> If found, if there's energy to do this all the way through,
> perhaps we can together bring the Conference to
> one of the two valleys (Pioneer Valley of Western MASS
> with Smith College, Amherst College, Hampshire College,
> U.Mass., Mt. Hoyloke College) and the Hudson Valley
> with may colleges and university settings too.
>
> A Valley Conference!  So the train has left the station,
> all aboard - who wants to go for the ride of exploration
> of renewal for our dear conference!
>
> Ed
>
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:23:32 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: conference
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I love what you say because I stand at the opposite pole:  I think we  
should just go for the
national conference and not do the local.   E
On May 7, 2007, at 11:19 AM, HV Psychodrama wrote:

> I think it might be a wise idea to consider putting on a local  
> conference
> before we take on putting on a national conference. Just a thought...I
> already have two people interested in being on an exploratory  
> committee.
> Rebecca
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: conference
>
>
>> Rebecca Walters of HVPTI has put out a call
>> to local folks here in Western MASS and "lower"
>> NY State asking:   Let's form a exploratory
>> committee combining energy and effort from
>> Western MASS and Hudson Valley - and in
>> that effort let's see if we can find a conference
>> site at a University for the ASGPP 2009 Conference.
>> If found, if there's energy to do this all the way through,
>> perhaps we can together bring the Conference to
>> one of the two valleys (Pioneer Valley of Western MASS
>> with Smith College, Amherst College, Hampshire College,
>> U.Mass., Mt. Hoyloke College) and the Hudson Valley
>> with may colleges and university settings too.
>>
>> A Valley Conference!  So the train has left the station,
>> all aboard - who wants to go for the ride of exploration
>> of renewal for our dear conference!
>>
>> Ed
>>
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Message: 26
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:56:58 -0400
From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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yes, we NEED to be.  Kate

On May 7, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Edward Schreiber wrote:

> Kate reminds me that we are a community of inclusion.
> Ed
> On May 7, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
>
>> Good luck and Support to John R.  Kate
>>
>> On May 4, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>>
>>> On Ms. Minkin's comments: "how come, where are we, how did this  
>>> happen and what are our plans?"
>>> it's my opinion that these are right and good questions we could  
>>> all be thinking about!  And in my opinion
>>> John R. has a good spirit so with luck we can all support this  
>>> effort of renewal.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peace to you too Dale
>>>> Your clarity and knowledge of both the pros and cons of our  
>>>> society's annual conferences hopefully raises a lot thought.  
>>>> Your words  echoed my  sentiments.
>>>>
>>>> I am currently questioning;  how come, where are we, how did  
>>>> this happen and what are our plans?
>>>> it is my belief that  Our Psychodrama Family needs help
>>>> Let's get our creative juices running folks..
>>>> I will help in whatever capacity I can.
>>>> Rosalie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See what's free at AOL.com.
>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>
>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
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>>
>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>
>> Clinical Psychologist
>> Director of Training
>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>> drkatetsi at mac.com
>>
>>
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Message: 27
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 12:12:26 -0400
From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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The divisions among us keep the circle broken.

TIAN DAYTON in the brilliantly done workshop by the Journal Executive  
Editors
and Heldref (who was there too) said:    "the circle is broken" in  
reference to the
sociometrics of the role-functioning and dynamics of the Society with  
writing for
the Journal.

Their leadership was so profoundly skilled that in-situ, in the  
workshop we were
able to bring the circle full circle to inclusion.

In the years of going to conferences, theirs was one the most skilled  
workshops I
have experienced.  Their leadership was amazing.

So:  the circle was broken by all of us I guess and now it is being  
healed.

Ed

(by the way - their workshop was so skillful bringing Morenean theory  
into real-life action)

On May 7, 2007, at 11:56 AM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:

> yes, we NEED to be.  Kate
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>
>> Kate reminds me that we are a community of inclusion.
>> Ed
>> On May 7, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
>>
>>> Good luck and Support to John R.  Kate
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2007, at 10:04 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Ms. Minkin's comments: "how come, where are we, how did this  
>>>> happen and what are our plans?"
>>>> it's my opinion that these are right and good questions we could  
>>>> all be thinking about!  And in my opinion
>>>> John R. has a good spirit so with luck we can all support this  
>>>> effort of renewal.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 4, 2007, at 9:43 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Peace to you too Dale
>>>>> Your clarity and knowledge of both the pros and cons of our  
>>>>> society's annual conferences hopefully raises a lot thought.  
>>>>> Your words  echoed my  sentiments.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently questioning;  how come, where are we, how did  
>>>>> this happen and what are our plans?
>>>>> it is my belief that  Our Psychodrama Family needs help
>>>>> Let's get our creative juices running folks..
>>>>> I will help in whatever capacity I can.
>>>>> Rosalie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> See what's free at AOL.com.
>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>
>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>>
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>>> Director of Training
>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
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