Conference Thread
Edward Schreiber
edwschreiber at earthlink.net
Wed May 9 10:27:48 CDT 2007
Grouptalk is easy for the techno-challenged like myself; the ASGPP
Forum is
still a learning curve!
Ed
On May 9, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Adam M. Barcroft wrote:
> I think I fall somewhere between Ed and Rebecca,
> on the continuum of a national conference on one end,
> and a regional conference on the other.
> I see the two as complementary, really.
> National conferences at the hotels I enjoy.
> I would love to participate also in student campus oriented
> conferences.
> I love the idea of having, from time to time, the conference in Miami
> for the weather, the beach, and the savings, and because it draws us
> (North America) sociometrically closer to South America, a hotbed for
> psychodrama.
> But not only Miami. I like the rotation of the conferences to
> different cities.
>
> As trying of my patience as the list-serve format is for me,
> I am finding this discussion informative, helpful, and valuable.
>
> Adam M. Barcroft
>
>
>
>
> On May 8, 2007, at 3:20 PM, list-request at grouptalkweb.org wrote:
>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:32:23 -0500
>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
>> Subject: Re: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop!
>> To: "Tri-State Chapter" <tristatechapter at YAHOO.COM>
>> Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org, cca at cany.org
>> Message-ID: <058301c79196$d7451820$2e01a8c0 at desktop>
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>>
>> Please pass along my encouragement to Emily and/or Robert to write
>> up their approach to
>> dream work; note how it is similar to or different from
>> psychodramatic dream work; other
>> concepts; and submit this as a paper for the Journal of Group
>> Psychotherapy, Psychodrama &
>> Sociometry; or The Journal of Creativity in Counseling; or The
>> Arts in Psychotherapy
>> (journal).
>> Warmly, Adam
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tri-State Chapter" <tristatechapter at YAHOO.COM>
>> To: <DRAMATHERAPYLST at LISTSERV.KSU.EDU>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:11 PM
>> Subject: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop!
>>
>>
>> THE CENTER FOR CREATIVE ALTERNATIVES PRESENTS
>>
>> DREAMSTORIES: WORKING WITH DREAMS THROUGH GROUP PROCESS &
>> THERAPEUTIC DRAMATIZATION
>>
>> A Drama Therapy Workshop Co-Led by
>> Robert Landy, Ph.D., LCAT, RDT-BCT & Emily Nash, LCAT
>>
>>
>> A dream is a theatre in which the dreamer is him/herself the
>> scene, the player, the
>> prompter, the producer, the author, the public, and the critic.
>> ~C.G. Jung
>>
>> - How do our dreams reflect unfinished business in our waking
>> lives?
>> - In what ways can we be guided by the symbolic messages in our
>> dreams?
>> - How can we work with our dreams dramatically in order to make
>> sense of the dream and
>> the dreamer?
>> - How can we apply our own experiences with dreams to
>> professional work with clients?
>>
>> WORKSHOP: This workshop is about ways and means to work
>> therapeutically with dreams in
>> order to more fully make sense of our inner worlds. We begin with
>> Jung's premise that the
>> dream is a theatre, a stage upon which we unconsciously enact our
>> unfinished business. In
>> this workshop, we will attempt to make the unconscious conscious
>> through a process of
>> therapeutic dramatization informed by an interactive group process.
>> The workshop will be
>> both didactic and experiential as we work toward understanding how
>> the enactment of the
>> dream can help the dreamer live a more fully integrated life.
>>
>> FOR WHOM: Creative arts therapists, mental health practitioners,
>> theater artists and all
>> those who are interested in exploring the therapeutic component of
>> theatre.
>>
>> ALL PARTICIPANTS are asked to bring one dream with them. The
>> dream can be a recurring
>> dream, a key dream from the past, or a very recent dream. You may
>> bring either a fully
>> recalled dream or a fragment. If you do not recall a dream, we will
>> help you find one.
>>
>> WORKSHOP LEADERS:
>> Robert J. Landy, Ph.D., RDT/BCT, LCAT: Professor of Applied
>> Psychology and Educational
>> Theater and Director of the Drama Therapy Program at New York
>> University. He is a leading
>> pioneer in drama therapy internationally and has written several
>> books and numerous
>> articles in the field.
>>
>> Emily Nash, LCAT: Ms. Nash has been a leader in the field of
>> therapeutic theatre for
>> twenty-five years. She is the Artistic Director and Director of
>> Training and Supervision
>> at Creative Alternatives New York and has presented her work at
>> national and international
>> conferences, and published her work with traumatized youth. Ms.
>> Nash also has extensive
>> experience as a professional actress.
>>
>> LOCATION: Judson Memorial Church (Click HERE for map)
>> 239 Thompson Street, between West 3rd Street and Washington
>> Square South.
>>
>> TRANSPORTATION: A,C,E,B,D,F or V train to West 4th Street.
>>
>> FEE: $120 ($55 for students)
>>
>>
>> TO REGISTER PRINT OUR REGISTRATION FORM FROM http://cany.org/
>> CCA.htm.
>>
>> Contact: Meredith Dean 917.856.2473 cca at cany.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:14:02 -0700
>> From: "E L" <elindblom at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15
>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Re: I'm new!!!!!
>>
>> I am new to the list and wanted to introduce myself. I was invited
>> by Tom
>> Treadwell. I wanted to add to the wonderful things about Zerka. She
>> directed
>> me once about twenty years ago in a psychodramatic baby
>> psychodrama. She is
>> wonderful. She has such a light touch when directing and, at the
>> same time,
>> is very clear. You always know where she is. I love it.
>>
>> To introduce myself. I am trained for ten years or so by Don
>> Miller, Martin
>> and Chelly Haskell, Doug Warner and Alan Wickersty. I practiced,
>> then, for
>> six years as a psychodrama trainer for The State of Maryland with
>> Rene Clay
>> and Constantine Sackles where I was supervised by Doug Warner.
>> (Alan Blatner
>> asked me if I would not call myself a psychodramatist. That's fine
>> for now.)
>> I've been on a break since 1988 from psychodrama to do some
>> thinking about
>> it. Hey, it took a while!
>>
>> So now coming back, I am teaching Psychodrama at Harvard University
>> (h2o).
>> My intuitive sense is this shall be quite good.
>>
>> http://personas.bravehost.com/7.html
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/07, list-request at grouptalkweb.org <list-
>> request at grouptalkweb.org>
>> wrote:
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>>> Today's Topics:
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>>> 1. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>> 2. My work and business (BARNETT WEISS)
>>> 3. economic squeezes (Adam Blatner)
>>> 4. Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors (HV Psychodrama)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:39:23 -0400
>>> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>
>>> YEs, absolutely Zerka is THE best!!!!! I am truly blessed to live
>>> in Cville and see her and other psychodramatists who come to see her
>>> so often. I have NEVER EVER heard her say anything bad about
>>> another
>>> human being. She is totally accepting and filled with care for her.
>>> She has taught me how to be with my students, fully accepting and NO
>>> criticism. I believe it is due to Zerka even more than JL who has
>>> brought psychodrama to where we are now.
>>>
>>> I look forward to seeing you for the workshop in June at her house.
>>> I will not attend the workshop but a TSM student of mine will be
>>> here
>>> and we plan on making a THanksgiving dinner for you all on saturday
>>> night--to celebrate psychodrama family. I wish Zerka could come,
>>> but
>>> I know she will be tired after a day of teaching.
>>>
>>> Some of my Taiwan and Chinese students came for a workshop with
>>> her 2
>>> weekends ago and 2 international psychodramatists came last weekend
>>> and she did a masterful job at both. She is amazing!
>>>
>>> See you soon. Tele, Kate
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Kate,
>>>> Zerka Moreno is the best example in my life
>>>> and I say that honestly - this is about me and my life -
>>>> the best example (besides my own mother) for what
>>>> it means to include people at the table. That Zerka
>>>> has embraced and included me is a gift she has given
>>>> to how many hundreds of people, or thousands?
>>>>
>>>> What an absolute joy for me to meet Guy Taylor again
>>>> at the Conference. He was such an important part of my
>>>> learning about psychodramatic work and his teaching has
>>>> influenced me so profoundly in such positive ways.
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> thank you sweetie. I AM Glad to be home. I will go back to
>>>>> Taiwan and CHina from July to November to do TSM work so am truly
>>>>> and absolutely enjoying this time. I now have an apartment in
>>>>> Shanghai so that helps. Tele and love to you, kate
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 1:57 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Kate
>>>>>> I love what you are suggesting...welcome home.
>>>>>> I have missed you
>>>>>> Rosalie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See what's free at AOL.com.
>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
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>>>>>
>>>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>>>>
>>>>> Clinical Psychologist
>>>>> Director of Training
>>>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>>>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>>>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>>
>>> Clinical Psychologist
>>> Director of Training
>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
>>>
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 06:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>
>>> Subject: My work and business
>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>> Message-ID: <604498.6123.qm at web84104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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>>>
>>> Dear People:
>>> Please call or write me back channel to my individual e-mail
>>> address about
>>> the Entertainment/Educational digital business I have entered into
>>> which can
>>> support all of the work we are doing here in the US and opening in
>>> England,
>>> Canada, Australia and parts of Asia in less than 45 days. It will
>>> then be
>>> opening in over 100 countries in the next 3 years. We can move
>>> our books,
>>> CDs, DVD's, everything that can be digitalized into their library
>>> for sale
>>> to the millions who willl be receiving the ability even for free
>>> to have a
>>> site from which they can advertise and sell these materials at
>>> tremendous
>>> financial and publicity benefit to us and them for the spread of the
>>> information. There has never been anything like this in the
>>> history of
>>> entertainment publishing or marketing. It is truly of by and for the
>>> people. Blessings, Bud
>>>
>>> Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW
>>> 7410 Ridge Blvd 2D
>>> Brooklyn, NY 11209
>>> E-Mail: Budweiss at verizon.net
>>> Cell (917)-751-3395
>>> web page: WWW.BURNLOUNGE.COM/BUDSLOUNGE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>> To: grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 4:46:21 AM
>>> Subject:
>>>
>>>
>>> One of the best things about this discussion is how many people are
>>> actually commenting. It is good to know there are so many folks
>>> out there in
>>> grouptalk land.
>>> Rebecca
>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
>>> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
>>> (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:59:13 -0500
>>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
>>> Subject: economic squeezes
>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> Re economic stresses in our times: I would suggest that there
>>> is a
>>> state we might
>>> call "hustling" that operates between prosperity and
>>> demoralization. In
>>> prosperity, there
>>> is surplus time/energy to build the society, and the sub-
>>> societies. The
>>> decline of
>>> civilizations comes with a general sense of economic and social
>>> decay, and
>>> I'm beginning
>>> to think about that.
>>> There are developed countries, and under-developed countries.
>>> I've
>>> heard about decay,
>>> but haven't been faced with it. I heard about the Great Depression
>>> of the
>>> 1930s, but it
>>> was over before the morale of the culture could drop.
>>> Decay may be more gradual, involving a longer period of
>>> "squeezing"
>>> the middle
>>> class. I think that's what is going on, more dramatically in Russia,
>>> perhaps, but also in
>>> the USA. People are hustling, busy, feeling stressed, and every
>>> encouragement for giving a
>>> bit---who has anything left over to give?
>>> Trillions of dollars are being spent on armaments and the
>>> support
>>> systems,
>>> salaries, oil, etc. for Iraq. Down the tubes. That money leaves
>>> everyone
>>> correspondingly
>>> drained. No money left for this and that.
>>> At work, equally tight. No money for psychiatric
>>> treatment, or at
>>> least, it's
>>> rationed, so the treatment becomes hurried.
>>> Management competence is measured in terms of how many
>>> corners you
>>> can cut and still
>>> fool others and yourself that you haven't cut quality. but of
>>> course you
>>> have.
>>> I think this mid-level of decay, hustling, can go on for
>>> years. People
>>> can still
>>> think of themselves as reasonably prosperous, and the advertisers
>>> and
>>> media support this
>>> image. Yet they aren't, they need to keep busier to keep up.
>>> I think decay can lead to its own sub-type or component of
>>> demoralization, a
>>> hardening, all rationalized. No time, no time. Those other things,
>>> hospitality,
>>> reciprocity, answering emails... not important.
>>> If decay continues, it leads to depression, demoralization,
>>> helplessness, giving
>>> up. The boundaries may be fuzzy. Perhaps it leads more to
>>> desperateness
>>> and the
>>> rationalization of immorality, crime, fudging the ethics.
>>> In the hustling stage, there is also increased entitlement. Why
>>> can't I
>>> get some too?
>>> If some get if free, why can't everything be free. It's my right.
>>> (what,
>>> after all , is a
>>> "right" but a social agreement?)
>>> (My son has been surprised at the emails he receives:
>>> He's
>>> developed programs
>>> for teaching people how to get the most out of programs---in his
>>> field of
>>> desktop
>>> publishing, he's considered a major figure, an expert. But people
>>> seem to
>>> resent the not-excessive cost of his instructional programs. Most
>>> interesting.)
>>> Indeed, my son read the above and wrote: I think you're quite
>>> right.
>>> There has been
>>> a radical change in how we function. Most of my colleagues simply
>>> expect
>>> to work 2 or 3
>>> people's jobs. Many people I know in management positions are now
>>> forced
>>> to fly economy
>>> class at all times, including frequent trips to Asia, Europe,
>>> etc., then
>>> just sigh and say
>>> what can be done, as the budgets have been slashed, even in
>>> economic boon.
>>> Everyone I know
>>> is exhausted.
>>> A friend of mine nearing 80 noted one of the most interesting
>>> changes
>>> over even the
>>> past 30 or 40 years is that hardly anyone has time to read the
>>> newspaper
>>> anymore. He said
>>> that even the most stressed out, overworked person would still
>>> have time
>>> to read the
>>> paper. No longer. Too much hustle.
>>> Hustling at 36,000 feet on my way to a conference in Chicago,
>>> David>
>>> Blatner
>>> What might be your thoughts on this? --
>>> Warmly,
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:08:30 -0400
>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>> Subject: Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors
>>> To: "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>> Message-ID: <029201c79182$bd5e2c30$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute New Paltz, NY www.hvpi.net
>>> hvpi at hvc.rr.com
>>>
>>> Early Registration discount if REGISTRATION AND FEE ARE POSTMARKED
>>> BY May
>>> 15, 2007!
>>>
>>> Discounts also available when two or more people from a single
>>> agency or
>>> program register. Contact us for information.
>>> ACTION METHODS WITH
>>> SUBSTANCE ABUSE GROUPS:
>>> Psychodrama, Sociometry and Sociodrama
>>>
>>> Trainer: Bill Coleman, LMSW TEP
>>>
>>> June 15-16, 2007
>>> Friday and Saturday 9 A.M. - 5:30 P.M.
>>> Location: Ulster County, NY
>>> overnight accommodations are available
>>>
>>>
>>> Action Methods for substance abuse groups can be an effective
>>> entry point
>>> into recovery for mandated clients, can provide useful tools for
>>> those
>>> clients in early recovery who are clinging to a shaky hold on
>>> sobriety, and
>>> a method of personal enrichment for those clients in second stage
>>> who need
>>> to explore deeper issues. This training will offer participants
>>> specific
>>> action method tools for use in their groups with substance abusers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WHAT YOU WILL LEARN!
>>>
>>> Warmups: Most mandated groups are comprised of highly resistant and
>>> defiant members. It is difficult if not impossible to break
>>> through this
>>> resistance without the use of specifically crafted warmups.
>>> Participants
>>> will learn and practice a series of warmup exercises specific to the
>>> substance abuse group.
>>>
>>> Tools: Substance abusers of all categories can benefit from the
>>> psychodramatic action of Doubling and Role Reversing. Participants
>>> will
>>> learn and practice how to introduce these specific tools for use
>>> in their
>>> groups.
>>>
>>> Structures: Substance Abusers generally respond well to fixed
>>> therapeutic
>>> structures rather than an opened ended process. Participants will
>>> learn and
>>> practice specific Psychodramatic and Action Structures for use
>>> with their
>>> groups.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> FEE
>>> $240 IF REGISTRATION AND FEE ARE POSTMARKED BY May 15, 2007, $300
>>> AFTER.
>>>
>>> REFUND POLICY
>>> 4 weeks notice: 100% refund
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>>>
>>> Space is limited...register early to avoid being closed out!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Continuing Education Units provided by this training are accepted by
>>> National Association of Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselors
>>> (NAADAC), National
>>> Board of Certified Counselors and towards recertification
>>> requirements for
>>> the National Registry of Group Psychotherapists as well as 14
>>> hours towards
>>> certification by the American Board of Examiners in Psychodrama
>>> and Group
>>> Psychotherapy.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To Register: Please send a check made out to HVPI to the address
>>> above.
>>> Include a piece of paper with your name, phone number, email
>>> address and
>>> regular address.
>>>
>>> Payment plans may be arranged upon request. It is now possible to
>>> pay with
>>> a major credit card.
>>>
>>> Contact HVPI for more information.
>>>
>>>
>>> Trainer Bio
>>>
>>> Bill Coleman, LMSW, TEP, is the co director of LA JORNADA
>>> INSTITUTE which
>>> offers professional training in psychodrama, sociometry and group
>>> psychotherapy to mental health and substance abuse counselors in
>>> both Tucson
>>> and New Mexico. Bill is currently on the staff of Sierra Tucson
>>> where he
>>> works as a Trauma Therapist. Before moving to the Southwest, Bill
>>> was a
>>> staff psychodramatist for at Four Winds Psychiatric Hospital,
>>> Westchester
>>> County, NY where he worked with adolescents and adults, including
>>> running
>>> groups with the dually diagnosed MICA population. He also
>>> developed and ran
>>> the psychodrama program at Freedom Institute, an outpatient
>>> substance abuse
>>> facility in New York City. Bill created and taught the HVPI
>>> "Psychodrama
>>> with the Chemically Dependent" curriculum for Daytop Village. Bill
>>> has been
>>> a frequent presenter at the Hudson Valley Chapter of the American
>>> Society
>>> for Group Psychotherapy and Psychodrama monthly meetings as well as
>>> presenting at the yearly meetings of the American Society for Group
>>> Psychotherapy and Psychodrama and at the national conference of
>>> the American
>>> Society of Group Psychotherapy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
>>> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
>>> (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
>>> visit us at our website: www.hvpi.net
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>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:20:27 -0700
>> From: "E L" <elindblom at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 14
>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>> Hi all
>>
>> I am new to the list. I wanted to remark about the Poconos. It
>> could be that
>> I am the only one who loved it. I met Rene there for the second time!
>> (Marineau). I realized that he was, indeed, the reincarnation of
>> Moreno.
>> (Aren't we all? It's an I-God thing.)
>>
>> So, anyway, we can't go to the Poconos anymore. I understand. (I
>> loved it
>> anyway.)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/07, list-request at grouptalkweb.org <list-
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>> wrote:
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>>> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 04:20:16 +0000
>>> From: "thana ag" <anathga at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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>>> Dale,
>>>
>>> What excellent points you make!!!
>>>
>>> I actually remember well that conference in Poconos --and how
>>> disappointing
>>> it was.
>>>
>>> Is it possible that folks who are interested in Psychodrama -are
>>> also
>>> interested in theather,and art -and therefore would shell a bit
>>> more money
>>> to be in S.F or NYC.? It is quite possible that if ASGPP meeting
>>> was in
>>> Manhattan ,rather than in Bklyn -the attendance would've been a
>>> larger .
>>> There are some affordable hotels on the Upper West Side,including
>>> hostels..
>>> -and the commute to theater and museums is only minutes...
>>> anath garber
>>>
>>>> From: Dale Richard Buchanan <dalerichardbuchanan at yahoo.com>
>>>> Reply-To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>> Subject: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
>>>> Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:53:10 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I have been concerned about some of the postings
>>>> regarding the costs of the annual meeting. I think
>>>> before we create a new conserve we should carefully
>>>> review where we have been, where we want to go, and
>>>> the consequences, anticipated and unintended, of the
>>>> new conserve.
>>>>
>>>> We must all take one step back and breathe. One of
>>>> the reasons why I believe that we have such confusion
>>>> and dissension about the annual meeting is that we
>>>> have not all agreed to the benchmarks that would
>>>> signify success for the annual meeting. Some of the
>>>> benchmarks that I have proposed in the past are the
>>>> following: Net Income (income from the annual meeting
>>>> minus all annual meetings expenses), number of total
>>>> attenders, and number of first time attenders. Now,
>>>> if we had that information, over time, we could track
>>>> whether or not the annual meeting was a success. We
>>>> could also do a graph of these with another item such
>>>> as hotel room cost that would give us a better idea of
>>>> the correlation of the room expense with the
>>>> benchmarks. I know I could get us a very good deal at
>>>> a summer camp in North Dakota, but don't think the
>>>> attendance would be very good even if it was very
>>>> cheap (smile).
>>>>
>>>> To my understanding the Miami Annual meeting was one
>>>> of the least expensive in many a year. Airfare into
>>>> and from Miami or Ft. Lauderdale are among the lowest
>>>> in the country. I just paid $149 for a roundtrip
>>>> airfare from DC to Miami. AIrfares from the Coast
>>>> seldom exceed $300 versus the $440 I just paid for
>>>> roundtrip to Seattlle. The hotel costs in Miami were
>>>> among the lowest ever with a cost of just $109. The
>>>> Chairs (Mary Bellofatto, Nancy Kirsener & Sue McMunn)
>>>> also made arrangements for room sharing with up to
>>>> four persons in a room.
>>>> Thanks to the Chairs frugal spending the conference
>>>> made a lot of money but the attendance was very low --
>>>> about two hundred below San Francisco which was much
>>>> more expensive, and about 150 below this year's
>>>> conference which was also expensive.
>>>>
>>>> Beware of unintended consequences! When Zerka was
>>>> President, and I was her Vice-President we listened to
>>>> the membership nd they wanted a less expensive annual
>>>> meeting. We tried an experiment by going to the
>>>> Poconos at a retreat center. We did everything that
>>>> was asked: leisure time to connect with others, good
>>>> inexpensive food in family style dining, inexpensive
>>>> lodging, recreational facilities to enjoy, etc. Well,
>>>> in the Poconos we have about 1/4 the attendance of the
>>>> New York Conference. The worst was that while we had
>>>> met or exceeded all the above expectations most said
>>>> they would never go to this type of annual meeting
>>>> again. Why, because they were upset that they were
>>>> not able to offer a workshop. Due to space
>>>> limitations we only had three or four workshops in
>>>> each time slot and we limited, at the suggestion of
>>>> the members, the number of sessions per day to so that
>>>> people could meet informally. Thus, this
>>>> disgruntlement over not presenting was a large
>>>> unintended consequence that was not anticipated.
>>>>
>>>> After this I discovered that usually about 40% of the
>>>> meeting attenders are conducting workshops. When we
>>>> limit the number of presenters then a large part of
>>>> the membership is unhappy and does not attend.
>>>> Trainers from all over the country bring their
>>>> students and want to be recognized for their training
>>>> skills and they want their trainees to see their names
>>>> on the annual program.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know the answers to people's concerns about
>>>> expenses, but I do know that we must first agree on
>>>> what equals success for the annual meeting. If we met
>>>> in a retreat center with 200 attenders when we had 465
>>>> in San Francisco and 391 in Brooklyn would the retreat
>>>> be a success. I also think that in many ways the
>>>> "expense" of the conference is a scapegoat for many
>>>> others concerns that we have for the annual meeting.
>>>>
>>>> I am excited about this discussion and hope that you
>>>> realize that no matter what we say or do on grouptalk
>>>> it is the leadership of the ASGPP that will make all
>>>> final decisions.
>>>>
>>>> Peace, Dale Richard Buchanan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 04:46:21 -0400
>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
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>>> One of the best things about this discussion is how many people are
>>> actually commenting. It is good to know there are so many folks
>>> out there in
>>> grouptalk land.
>>> Rebecca
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>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:28:55 -0400
>>> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
>>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10
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>>> Great Adam that you are engaging.
>>>
>>> I have found for myself that it has been through psychology and
>>> psychotherapy conferences around the world that I have gotten TSM
>>> accepted and promoted. In AUgust last year I was one of the plenary
>>> speakers at the World COngress on Psychotherapy in Malaysia and will
>>> again be a keynote speaker when it meets in Japan next year (already
>>> invited, arranged and will be paid to do so).
>>>
>>> Michael Weiser of Austria and Kiyoshi Takara of Japan came to my
>>> house following the conference to visit with Zerka and make plans
>>> with me for Japan. They are both clinical psychologists like I am.
>>>
>>> I told them how I anchor TSM not just in psychodrama but in the
>>> very large body of research of experiential psychotherapy (look up
>>> Les Greenberg and Robert Elliott) as well as van der Kolk's
>>> neurobiology on trauma. This is what needs to happen. Psychodrama
>>> needs to be brought into the mainstream. I have presented at ISTSS,
>>> SPR, IADES, and many other psychology conferences here and abroad.
>>> This is how TSM has become so widespread. We also need to
>>> connect to
>>> the drama therapy community that has a good academic presentation.
>>>
>>> I will be conducting a research project in China next year at a
>>> minimum of 4 universities and maybe up to 8. Currently Dr Lai in
>>> Taiwan is doing a pilot study on a 12 week TSM group for women who
>>> have experienced domestic violence. We will take the protocol
>>> and do
>>> it in CHina January 08 with adolescents and young people that are
>>> addicted to the internet, funded by the government! All of my
>>> connections in Taiwan and China have been with psychologists
>>> sponsoring my work. It has worked and we will continue to progress
>>> psychodrama in Asia though these channels.
>>>
>>> I have also connected with business people who are excited to market
>>> Action Solutions, our business applications of TSM> My husband
>>> and I
>>> will be conducting the first psychodrama workshop for people that
>>> are
>>> signed up for internet dating/matching in July. The conference in
>>> Suzhou that Gong Shu is organizing will be bringing several Western
>>> psychodramatists to China. I think psychodrama will soon be loved by
>>> many in CHina.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am getting about 4-5 requests a month about TSM
>>> training
>>> in USA becaues it is now mentioned in Corsini's chapter on group
>>> psychotherapy that is the text for most graduate programs and 3
>>> chapters are being published on it during the 1st few months of this
>>> year through drama therapy channels and a book on Advanced Theories
>>> of Psychodrama in Europe.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps others. Kate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Adam M. Barcroft wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ed,
>>>> I was at that ASGPP Journal meeting also,
>>>> and I remember when Tian said, three different times during the
>>>> meeting,
>>>> "The Circle is Broken here. We need to heal the broken circle."
>>>> From across the room, each time I heard her say this,
>>>> I felt large shock waves moving through my body.
>>>> Needless to say, I was more than a little surprised to be feeling
>>>> each of these shocks,
>>>> blasting through me.
>>>>
>>>> After the meeting, as I walked around finding my next workshop's
>>>> room,
>>>> I experienced a catharsis of integration about
>>>> Tian's message, and the solution.
>>>> I saw Tian moments later in the hallway,
>>>> I walked over to her and said, excitedly,
>>>> "Tian! I have to tell you that I just figured out how we
>>>> heal the broken circle!" I paused, then said,
>>>> "The ENCOUNTER heals the broken circle!"
>>>> And as the master teacher and student that she is,
>>>> her eyes lit up with recognition, and gratitude. A hug,
>>>> and then she was off to the next room too.
>>>>
>>>> This is, as Ed has already stated,
>>>> what was set in motion during our Journal meeting:
>>>> an encounter among representatives of the ASGPP Journal,
>>>> (with me in the role of student-interested-in-publishing
>>>> in various written formats and also research articles),
>>>> who communicated and clarified honestly and openly,
>>>> with full inclusion.
>>>> The Encounter heals the broken circle.
>>>> Meet my new mantra.
>>>> The entire experience was quite moving for me,
>>>> and plants a seed of understanding in my thinking about
>>>> the foundations of the Morenean Arts and Sciences.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Ed for reminding me of the epiphany I had,
>>>> so that I could share my response with you and others.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I am enjoying (watching) the discussions since the
>>>> conference,
>>>> and I am very impressed by how thoughtfully, intelligently,
>>>> candidly
>>>> and respectfully
>>>> our membership is taking the "Future Conferences" discussion.
>>>> What Kim Cox is saying I have been feeling for years now,
>>>> to present psychodrama at other conference venues,
>>>> and I've always justified not going to other national conferences
>>>> because of issues with time & money.
>>>> You can be sure Kim that I won't be making that error any longer.
>>>> I am committed to making presentations at other venues,
>>>> such as the Networker Conference next March.
>>>> Are there new conference postings and announcements that the ASGPP
>>>> sends out regularly,
>>>> having to do with ongoing conferences held by any organization
>>>> where
>>>> we might consider presenting? Or could there be an ASGPP website
>>>> forum for posting announcements about upcoming national and
>>>> international conferences?
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion what Steve Gordon, Kim Cox, and others are saying
>>>> is very helpful input.
>>>> It is good to see such creativity flowing,
>>>> boldly and directly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam M. Barcroft
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>>> 1. Re: next conference (Adam Blatner)
>>>>> 2. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
>>>>> 3. Re: next conference (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>> 4. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
>>>>> 5. FW: Conference on Dissociation (Karen Carnabucci)
>>>>> 6. Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>> community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
>>>>> 7. RE: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>> community (Sandy Blackman)
>>>>> 8. Moreno museum (Michael Wieser)
>>>>> 9. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>> community (Kim Cox)
>>>>> 10. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>> community (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>> 11. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>> community (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
>>>>> 12. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>> community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
>>>>> 13. World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>> 14. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno
>>>>> (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
>>>>> 15. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward
>>>>> Schreiber)
>>>>> 16. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>> 17. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>> 18. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>> 19. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward
>>>>> Schreiber)
>>>>> 20. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>>>> 21. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>>>> 22. Re: conference (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>>>> 23. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>> 24. Re: conference (HV Psychodrama)
>>>>> 25. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>> 26. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>> 27. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward
>>>>> Schreiber)
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>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 13:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> From: Adam Blatner <ablatner at verizon.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
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>>>>>
>>>>> but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the
>>>>> motivation or willingness to attend the national conference and if
>>>>> so, what will that do to the asgpp as a national organization?
>>>>> adam
>>>>>
>>>>> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote: Ed, Michael, and
>>>>> others who live in Western Mass/Albany area/New Paltz What if we
>>>>> got together and planned a two day conference for people who live
>>>>> locally? Had anyone else done that...is there a template out there
>>>>> for creating and running a short conference? Anyone interested in
>>>>> helping to create a template if there isn't one already?
>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: PATRICIA DESERT
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well
>>>>> including John Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U.,
>>>>> and
>>>>> Morgan. Towson University is a state school and could be even
>>>>> more
>>>>> affordable than the private colleges.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of folks
>>>>> who would have rooms in their homes to let for the weekend. For
>>>>> example, I have two bedrooms available and if the conference were
>>>>> in Baltimore I could create such a list. What a nice experience
>>>>> for folks from other countries to experience a welcoming American
>>>>> family and home life as well as the conference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patti
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith College,
>>>>> University
>>>>> of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt. Holyoke
>>>>> College. We could find one college, I am sure, to house a
>>>>> conference in 2009. Colleges end mid-May, so we would have to
>>>>> have
>>>>> an early June conference. The conference could include, for those
>>>>> who wanted, rental of a dorm room. There are hotels here as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> The criteria I hear from many is simply cost. Miami was great but
>>>>> the cost was high. If we want to attract many we have to make it
>>>>> affordable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
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>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:28:04 -0400
>>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>> To: <adam at blatner.com>, <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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>>>>> I think if it planned right, in terms of timing, it will not
>>>>> interfere, but perhaps inspire people to attend the national
>>>>> conference. Look, the bottom line is that any number of folks
>>>>> cannot afford to travel to the places we hold the national
>>>>> conferences. They don't get to enjoy the sense of community that
>>>>> develops around the love of psychodrama that those of us who
>>>>> travel
>>>>> every year to the national conferences enjoy. My hope would be
>>>>> that
>>>>> local conferences would get and keep people engaged with the
>>>>> method, and perhaps they would in turn attend the national
>>>>> conference at another time. Think of it as advanced marketing.
>>>>> Next years conference is in Texas. I know most of my students
>>>>> are
>>>>> not going to attend. Why not have a conference here in the east
>>>>> that would keep them connected until the conference returns to the
>>>>> north east. The other thing would be to be sure to hold it at a
>>>>> different time, certainly not April if that is when than national
>>>>> conference is held.
>>>>> I think it would be a terrific marketing idea for
>>>>> psychodramatists in Texas to hold one of two short conferences
>>>>> this
>>>>> fall, to help develop a taste for an experience that will be
>>>>> fulfilled at the national conference next spring.
>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Adam Blatner
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the
>>>>> motivation or willingness to attend the national conference and if
>>>>> so, what will that do to the asgpp as a national organization?
>>>>> adam
>>>>>
>>>>> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> Ed, Michael, and others who live in Western Mass/Albany area/
>>>>> New Paltz What if we got together and planned a two day
>>>>> conference
>>>>> for people who live locally? Had anyone else done that...is
>>>>> there a
>>>>> template out there for creating and running a short conference?
>>>>> Anyone interested in helping to create a template if there isn't
>>>>> one already?
>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: PATRICIA DESERT
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well
>>>>> including John Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U.,
>>>>> and
>>>>> Morgan. Towson University is a state school and could be even
>>>>> more
>>>>> affordable than the private colleges.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of
>>>>> folks who would have rooms in their homes to let for the weekend.
>>>>> For example, I have two bedrooms available and if the conference
>>>>> were in Baltimore I could create such a list. What a nice
>>>>> experience for folks from other countries to experience a
>>>>> welcoming
>>>>> American family and home life as well as the conference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patti
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith College,
>>>>> University
>>>>> of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt.
>>>>> Holyoke
>>>>> College. We could find one college, I am sure, to
>>>>> house a
>>>>> conference in 2009. Colleges end mid-May, so we would
>>>>> have
>>>>> to have
>>>>> an early June conference. The conference could include,
>>>>> for those
>>>>> who wanted, rental of a dorm room. There are hotels here
>>>>> as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> The criteria I hear from many is simply cost. Miami was
>>>>> great but
>>>>> the cost was high. If we want to attract many we have to
>>>>> make it
>>>>> affordable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
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>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:51:37 -0400
>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
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>>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
>>>>> to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
>>>>> we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
>>>>> conference for 2009, at a University in late May.
>>>>>
>>>>> We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
>>>>> to put together an exploratory committee. If we have
>>>>> sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
>>>>> New Paltz or someplace like that. And if we explored it
>>>>> and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
>>>>> to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
>>>>> conference of HV and Western Mass.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could even look at Albany!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 17:22:21 -0400
>>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>> Message-ID: <001601c79024$a2351a40$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
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>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>
>>>>> I just sent off an email to a bunch of local people...we shall see
>>>>> what sort
>>>>> of interest there is in that,
>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
>>>>>> to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
>>>>>> we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
>>>>>> conference for 2009, at a University in late May.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
>>>>>> to put together an exploratory committee. If we have
>>>>>> sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
>>>>>> New Paltz or someplace like that. And if we explored it
>>>>>> and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
>>>>>> to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
>>>>>> conference of HV and Western Mass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could even look at Albany!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:40:36 -0400
>>>>> From: "Karen Carnabucci" <karen at companionsinhealing.com>
>>>>> Subject: FW: Conference on Dissociation
>>>>> To: <therapeutic-spiral at yahoogroups.com>,
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>>>>> [mailto:Clinicians_Exchange at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sharon
>>>>> Farber
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 8:10 PM
>>>>> To: DISSOCIATIVE-DISORDERS at LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG
>>>>> Subject: [Clinicians_Exchange] Conference on Dissociation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To those who are in the NY area and have an interest in
>>>>> dissociation,
>>>>> the NY State Society of Clinical Social Work's annual conference
>>>>> will be
>>>>> on the subject of dissociation. It will be held at the Fordham
>>>>> University Graduate Center in NYC, at 60th and Columbus Ave. this
>>>>> Saturday, May 18. There will be workshops on various aspects of
>>>>> dissociation, including one that I will be doing, The Inner
>>>>> Predator:
>>>>> Trauma and Dissociation in Bodily Self-Harm (eating disorders,
>>>>> self-mutilation), based on the papers I was invited to present
>>>>> at the
>>>>> APA's National Convention in New Orleans in August and which I
>>>>> presented
>>>>> at the National Membership Committee on Psychoanalysis in Clinical
>>>>> Social Work's National conference in Chicago in March. .
>>>>>
>>>>> Sharon Farber
>>>>>
>>>>> Sharon K. Farber, PhD.
>>>>> 142 Edgars Lane
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>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 6
>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:58:02 EDT
>>>>> From: Hug4abear at aol.com
>>>>> Subject: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>> community
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>> Message-ID: <c50.1285e6f1.336fe1aa at aol.com>
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>>>>>
>>>>> To all:
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate watching the dialogue about how we can make the
>>>>> ASGPP a
>>>>> stronger organization and increasing the size of the psychodrama
>>>>> community,
>>>>> including the view that we need to do a better job of drawing in a
>>>>> certain segment of
>>>>> the population that is seriously under represented in our
>>>>> community; namely,
>>>>> post-baby-boomers (people born after the early 1960s). Perhaps
>>>>> two
>>>>> additional metrics for measuring the success of the annual
>>>>> conference (and the
>>>>> psychodrama community) could be: (1) how many first time
>>>>> attendees
>>>>> we have
>>>>> attracted; and (2) are we increasing the demographic diversity of
>>>>> the community.
>>>>> Does the ASGPP track these data points?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have several thoughts on these issues. First, it seems to me
>>>>> that the
>>>>> issue of ensuring the long term viability of the ASGPP and the
>>>>> psychodrama
>>>>> community may involve numerous issue, not merely bringing the cost
>>>>> of the annual
>>>>> conference down. Has there ever been a formal study that
>>>>> looked at
>>>>> the issue
>>>>> of long-term planning for our community? Some questions that
>>>>> could be
>>>>> addressed: What are the typical points of entry to the
>>>>> psychodrama community?
>>>>> (Based upon anecdotal evidence, I do not think that most people?s
>>>>> first exposure
>>>>> to psychodrama is the ASGPP annual conference.) Do we know how
>>>>> first time
>>>>> attendee have heard about the annual conference? Are there
>>>>> segments of the
>>>>> population that we are not reaching, such as current students who
>>>>> are studying
>>>>> to be mental health professionals or professionals in other
>>>>> allied
>>>>> fields
>>>>> that could use psychodrama? What are the ASGPP and the
>>>>> psychodrama community
>>>>> doing well when it comes to drawing in new people? What is not
>>>>> working? If it
>>>>> has not already been done, does it make sense for the
>>>>> organization
>>>>> to draft
>>>>> a formal plan that would help to raise everyone?s
>>>>> consciousness on
>>>>> the steps
>>>>> that we can take individually and collectively to attract new
>>>>> people to the
>>>>> organization and the psychodrama community?
>>>>>
>>>>> Some things that come to mind that may be factors in our
>>>>> inability to
>>>>> attract post-baby boomers from joining our community, include:
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) Lack of knowledge of psychodrama ? how much outreach is being
>>>>> done? Is
>>>>> there someway that we can better utilize the Internet to
>>>>> publicize
>>>>> the ASGPP
>>>>> and the psychodrama community? For example, is there some way
>>>>> that we could
>>>>> have a link to our organization?s web site on the web sites of
>>>>> other
>>>>> organizations that are populated by people who would be
>>>>> interested
>>>>> in psychodrama,
>>>>> such as the American Group Psychotherapy Association. Do
>>>>> psychodramatist and
>>>>> trainers who have web sites include a link to the ASGPP and our
>>>>> conference?
>>>>> Post-Baby-Boomers tend to be very computer savvy and this seems
>>>>> like a
>>>>> necessary form of out-reach.
>>>>>
>>>>> (2) Attending the full conference involves being willing to invest
>>>>> a lot of
>>>>> time and money. For someone who has little or no exposure to
>>>>> psychodrama,
>>>>> reviewing the brochure and figuring out that you can stick your
>>>>> toe
>>>>> in the water
>>>>> rather than attending the full conference is difficult to learn.
>>>>> This
>>>>> information is generally nestled in the sign-up form at the end of
>>>>> the workshop
>>>>> listing. The conference brochure and the organization do not
>>>>> heavily
>>>>> publicize that an attendee may attend only a portion of the
>>>>> conference, such as a
>>>>> pre-conference workshop or just one day of the conference. Is
>>>>> there some way
>>>>> that we can better publicize (perhaps on the front of the
>>>>> brochure)
>>>>> this option
>>>>> and publicize that someone who likes what they see may sign up for
>>>>> more
>>>>> workshops?
>>>>>
>>>>> (3) Are there additional things that our organizations can do to
>>>>> ensure that
>>>>> newcomers feel welcome? I know that we have a special event for
>>>>> first time
>>>>> attendees. Does it may make sense for there to be recommended
>>>>> workshops for
>>>>> first time attendees?
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Gordon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Message: 7
>>>>> Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 23:00:19 -0400
>>>>> From: "Sandy Blackman" <theatergirl at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: RE: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>> community
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 8
>>>>> Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 09:26:22 +0200
>>>>> From: "Michael Wieser" <Michael.Wieser at uni-klu.ac.at>
>>>>> Subject: Moreno museum
>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>> Message-ID: <463EF0BE.C086.0025.0 at uni-klu.ac.at>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>> Zerka asked me to spread her letter in internet:
>>>>>
>>>>> "To the World-Wide Psychodrama Community
>>>>>
>>>>> It was a great, heartfelt pleasure to read the letter from the
>>>>> Mayor of
>>>>> Bad Voeslau, the city where my late husband, J.L. Moreno, had been
>>>>> Public Health Officer from 1918-1925, positively supporting the
>>>>> plans
>>>>> for The Moreno Museum organized by the European Psychodrama
>>>>> community.
>>>>> It is located at Maital No. 4, in that city.
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel quite certain that his spirit resides there because
>>>>> before he
>>>>> died he expressed regret that he was unable to buy the house. I
>>>>> did
>>>>> not
>>>>> think that absentee ownership was desirable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for making his dream reality.
>>>>>
>>>>> Zerka T. Moreno
>>>>> Charlottesville
>>>>> Virginia, USA"
>>>>>
>>>>> Please visit our new homepage: www.moreno-museum.at and click the
>>>>> donate button. To buy the house the owner asks us for EURO 180000.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warmly
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> -
>>>>> --
>>>>> -
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Michael Wieser, Assistenz-Prof.Mag.Dr.
>>>>> Alpen-Adria-Universitaet Klagenfurt
>>>>> Fakultaet fuer Kulturwissenschaft
>>>>> Institut fuer Psychologie, Studienprogrammleiter
>>>>> Abteilung fuer Klinische Psychologie, Psychotherapie und
>>>>> Psychoanalyse
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>>>>> Message: 9
>>>>> Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 08:48:17 -0400
>>>>> From: "Kim Cox" <kimbo.cox at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>> community
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>>>
>>>>> Following up on my classmate Sandy's e-mail, I want to share with
>>>>> you that I
>>>>> was also at the Networker conference and have been meaning to
>>>>> share
>>>>> with you
>>>>> an experience I had there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I enjoyed an all-day session on Virginia Satir, watching and
>>>>> discussing a
>>>>> video of her doing a workshop with therapists. By the end of the
>>>>> day I was
>>>>> attempting to share with the BIG group in the room that a lot of
>>>>> what
>>>>> Virginia was doing in the video was very similar to Moreno's work.
>>>>> I was
>>>>> also curious about what the presenter thought. The presenter,
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> Andreas,
>>>>> negated everything I said and indicated his "wariness" when it
>>>>> comes to
>>>>> psychodrama. One or two people in the audience agreed with him,
>>>>> and
>>>>> no one
>>>>> else spoke up, so I kept talking. (I could feel Virginia's and
>>>>> J.L.'sspirits supporting me!) His main argument was that
>>>>> auxiliary
>>>>> work in
>>>>> psychodrama is too dangerous and the wrong non-verbals can "really
>>>>> mess
>>>>> someone up." When I pressed him about the au