ASGPP Forum (Re) Invitation
Adam M. Barcroft
amb1 at hughes.net
Wed May 9 12:52:52 CDT 2007
The ASGPP Forum is a great place to have many topics and sub topics,
great for those of us craving more organization to the grouptalk
discussions. I will keep checking in with Grouptalk; I ask that
others make an effort to visit the Forum and comment more regularly.
We could make it "Student Loungy," put up some catchy folders and
make poetry and expressive art there and be more, like, salon-y?
Seriously though, the ASGPP has a well designed Forum,
and I find it easy to use.
The ASGPP Forum is a marketplace of groups talking about many things
at once,
a kind of online symposium,
with many simultaneous discussion areas.
I am proud to be the first to be saying it,
that the Forum site is a complement to group-talk and to the ASGPP!
Personally I am enjoying having a space to post haikus, poems, etc..
Professionally I am glad to contribute what I can.
There is a Sociatry folder on the ASGPP Forum frontpage,
and again I invite others to post ideas there,
and to begin creating topic threads for discussion.
A global discussion there would be ideal.
Keep trying Ed. I appreciate your efforts to join the ASGPP Forum!
Don't let the automatons get you down,
Adam M. Barcroft
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> Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 11:27:48 -0400
> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
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> Grouptalk is easy for the techno-challenged like myself; the ASGPP
> Forum is
> still a learning curve!
>
> Ed
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>
> On May 9, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Adam M. Barcroft wrote:
>
>> I think I fall somewhere between Ed and Rebecca,
>> on the continuum of a national conference on one end,
>> and a regional conference on the other.
>> I see the two as complementary, really.
>> National conferences at the hotels I enjoy.
>> I would love to participate also in student campus oriented
>> conferences.
>> I love the idea of having, from time to time, the conference in Miami
>> for the weather, the beach, and the savings, and because it draws us
>> (North America) sociometrically closer to South America, a hotbed for
>> psychodrama.
>> But not only Miami. I like the rotation of the conferences to
>> different cities.
>>
>> As trying of my patience as the list-serve format is for me,
>> I am finding this discussion informative, helpful, and valuable.
>>
>> Adam M. Barcroft
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 8, 2007, at 3:20 PM, list-request at grouptalkweb.org wrote:
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>>> 1. Re: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop! (Adam Blatner)
>>> 2. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15 (E L)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:32:23 -0500
>>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
>>> Subject: Re: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop!
>>> To: "Tri-State Chapter" <tristatechapter at YAHOO.COM>
>>> Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org, cca at cany.org
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>>>
>>> Please pass along my encouragement to Emily and/or Robert to write
>>> up their approach to
>>> dream work; note how it is similar to or different from
>>> psychodramatic dream work; other
>>> concepts; and submit this as a paper for the Journal of Group
>>> Psychotherapy, Psychodrama &
>>> Sociometry; or The Journal of Creativity in Counseling; or The
>>> Arts in Psychotherapy
>>> (journal).
>>> Warmly, Adam
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tri-State Chapter" <tristatechapter at YAHOO.COM>
>>> To: <DRAMATHERAPYLST at LISTSERV.KSU.EDU>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:11 PM
>>> Subject: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop!
>>>
>>>
>>> THE CENTER FOR CREATIVE ALTERNATIVES PRESENTS
>>>
>>> DREAMSTORIES: WORKING WITH DREAMS THROUGH GROUP PROCESS &
>>> THERAPEUTIC DRAMATIZATION
>>>
>>> A Drama Therapy Workshop Co-Led by
>>> Robert Landy, Ph.D., LCAT, RDT-BCT & Emily Nash, LCAT
>>>
>>>
>>> A dream is a theatre in which the dreamer is him/herself the
>>> scene, the player, the
>>> prompter, the producer, the author, the public, and the critic.
>>> ~C.G. Jung
>>>
>>> - How do our dreams reflect unfinished business in our waking
>>> lives?
>>> - In what ways can we be guided by the symbolic messages in our
>>> dreams?
>>> - How can we work with our dreams dramatically in order to make
>>> sense of the dream and
>>> the dreamer?
>>> - How can we apply our own experiences with dreams to
>>> professional work with clients?
>>>
>>> WORKSHOP: This workshop is about ways and means to work
>>> therapeutically with dreams in
>>> order to more fully make sense of our inner worlds. We begin with
>>> Jung's premise that the
>>> dream is a theatre, a stage upon which we unconsciously enact our
>>> unfinished business. In
>>> this workshop, we will attempt to make the unconscious conscious
>>> through a process of
>>> therapeutic dramatization informed by an interactive group process.
>>> The workshop will be
>>> both didactic and experiential as we work toward understanding how
>>> the enactment of the
>>> dream can help the dreamer live a more fully integrated life.
>>>
>>> FOR WHOM: Creative arts therapists, mental health practitioners,
>>> theater artists and all
>>> those who are interested in exploring the therapeutic component of
>>> theatre.
>>>
>>> ALL PARTICIPANTS are asked to bring one dream with them. The
>>> dream can be a recurring
>>> dream, a key dream from the past, or a very recent dream. You may
>>> bring either a fully
>>> recalled dream or a fragment. If you do not recall a dream, we will
>>> help you find one.
>>>
>>> WORKSHOP LEADERS:
>>> Robert J. Landy, Ph.D., RDT/BCT, LCAT: Professor of Applied
>>> Psychology and Educational
>>> Theater and Director of the Drama Therapy Program at New York
>>> University. He is a leading
>>> pioneer in drama therapy internationally and has written several
>>> books and numerous
>>> articles in the field.
>>>
>>> Emily Nash, LCAT: Ms. Nash has been a leader in the field of
>>> therapeutic theatre for
>>> twenty-five years. She is the Artistic Director and Director of
>>> Training and Supervision
>>> at Creative Alternatives New York and has presented her work at
>>> national and international
>>> conferences, and published her work with traumatized youth. Ms.
>>> Nash also has extensive
>>> experience as a professional actress.
>>>
>>> LOCATION: Judson Memorial Church (Click HERE for map)
>>> 239 Thompson Street, between West 3rd Street and Washington
>>> Square South.
>>>
>>> TRANSPORTATION: A,C,E,B,D,F or V train to West 4th Street.
>>>
>>> FEE: $120 ($55 for students)
>>>
>>>
>>> TO REGISTER PRINT OUR REGISTRATION FORM FROM http://cany.org/
>>> CCA.htm.
>>>
>>> Contact: Meredith Dean 917.856.2473 cca at cany.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:14:02 -0700
>>> From: "E L" <elindblom at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15
>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>> Message-ID:
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>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Re: I'm new!!!!!
>>>
>>> I am new to the list and wanted to introduce myself. I was invited
>>> by Tom
>>> Treadwell. I wanted to add to the wonderful things about Zerka. She
>>> directed
>>> me once about twenty years ago in a psychodramatic baby
>>> psychodrama. She is
>>> wonderful. She has such a light touch when directing and, at the
>>> same time,
>>> is very clear. You always know where she is. I love it.
>>>
>>> To introduce myself. I am trained for ten years or so by Don
>>> Miller, Martin
>>> and Chelly Haskell, Doug Warner and Alan Wickersty. I practiced,
>>> then, for
>>> six years as a psychodrama trainer for The State of Maryland with
>>> Rene Clay
>>> and Constantine Sackles where I was supervised by Doug Warner.
>>> (Alan Blatner
>>> asked me if I would not call myself a psychodramatist. That's fine
>>> for now.)
>>> I've been on a break since 1988 from psychodrama to do some
>>> thinking about
>>> it. Hey, it took a while!
>>>
>>> So now coming back, I am teaching Psychodrama at Harvard University
>>> (h2o).
>>> My intuitive sense is this shall be quite good.
>>>
>>> http://personas.bravehost.com/7.html
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/8/07, list-request at grouptalkweb.org <list-
>>> request at grouptalkweb.org>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>> 1. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>>> 2. My work and business (BARNETT WEISS)
>>>> 3. economic squeezes (Adam Blatner)
>>>> 4. Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors (HV Psychodrama)
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:39:23 -0400
>>>> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>> YEs, absolutely Zerka is THE best!!!!! I am truly blessed to live
>>>> in Cville and see her and other psychodramatists who come to see
>>>> her
>>>> so often. I have NEVER EVER heard her say anything bad about
>>>> another
>>>> human being. She is totally accepting and filled with care for
>>>> her.
>>>> She has taught me how to be with my students, fully accepting
>>>> and NO
>>>> criticism. I believe it is due to Zerka even more than JL who has
>>>> brought psychodrama to where we are now.
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to seeing you for the workshop in June at her house.
>>>> I will not attend the workshop but a TSM student of mine will be
>>>> here
>>>> and we plan on making a THanksgiving dinner for you all on saturday
>>>> night--to celebrate psychodrama family. I wish Zerka could come,
>>>> but
>>>> I know she will be tired after a day of teaching.
>>>>
>>>> Some of my Taiwan and Chinese students came for a workshop with
>>>> her 2
>>>> weekends ago and 2 international psychodramatists came last weekend
>>>> and she did a masterful job at both. She is amazing!
>>>>
>>>> See you soon. Tele, Kate
>>>>
>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kate,
>>>>> Zerka Moreno is the best example in my life
>>>>> and I say that honestly - this is about me and my life -
>>>>> the best example (besides my own mother) for what
>>>>> it means to include people at the table. That Zerka
>>>>> has embraced and included me is a gift she has given
>>>>> to how many hundreds of people, or thousands?
>>>>>
>>>>> What an absolute joy for me to meet Guy Taylor again
>>>>> at the Conference. He was such an important part of my
>>>>> learning about psychodramatic work and his teaching has
>>>>> influenced me so profoundly in such positive ways.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you sweetie. I AM Glad to be home. I will go back to
>>>>>> Taiwan and CHina from July to November to do TSM work so am truly
>>>>>> and absolutely enjoying this time. I now have an apartment in
>>>>>> Shanghai so that helps. Tele and love to you, kate
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 1:57 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Kate
>>>>>>> I love what you are suggesting...welcome home.
>>>>>>> I have missed you
>>>>>>> Rosalie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See what's free at AOL.com.
>>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clinical Psychologist
>>>>>> Director of Training
>>>>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>>>>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>>>>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>>>
>>>> Clinical Psychologist
>>>> Director of Training
>>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
>>>>
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 06:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
>>>> From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>
>>>> Subject: My work and business
>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>>
>>>> Dear People:
>>>> Please call or write me back channel to my individual e-mail
>>>> address about
>>>> the Entertainment/Educational digital business I have entered into
>>>> which can
>>>> support all of the work we are doing here in the US and opening in
>>>> England,
>>>> Canada, Australia and parts of Asia in less than 45 days. It will
>>>> then be
>>>> opening in over 100 countries in the next 3 years. We can move
>>>> our books,
>>>> CDs, DVD's, everything that can be digitalized into their library
>>>> for sale
>>>> to the millions who willl be receiving the ability even for free
>>>> to have a
>>>> site from which they can advertise and sell these materials at
>>>> tremendous
>>>> financial and publicity benefit to us and them for the spread of
>>>> the
>>>> information. There has never been anything like this in the
>>>> history of
>>>> entertainment publishing or marketing. It is truly of by and for
>>>> the
>>>> people. Blessings, Bud
>>>>
>>>> Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW
>>>> 7410 Ridge Blvd 2D
>>>> Brooklyn, NY 11209
>>>> E-Mail: Budweiss at verizon.net
>>>> Cell (917)-751-3395
>>>> web page: WWW.BURNLOUNGE.COM/BUDSLOUNGE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>> To: grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 4:46:21 AM
>>>> Subject:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One of the best things about this discussion is how many people are
>>>> actually commenting. It is good to know there are so many folks
>>>> out there in
>>>> grouptalk land.
>>>> Rebecca
>>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
>>>> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
>>>> (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
>>>> visit us at our website: www.hvpi.net
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>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:59:13 -0500
>>>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
>>>> Subject: economic squeezes
>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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>>>> Dear All,
>>>> Re economic stresses in our times: I would suggest that there
>>>> is a
>>>> state we might
>>>> call "hustling" that operates between prosperity and
>>>> demoralization. In
>>>> prosperity, there
>>>> is surplus time/energy to build the society, and the sub-
>>>> societies. The
>>>> decline of
>>>> civilizations comes with a general sense of economic and social
>>>> decay, and
>>>> I'm beginning
>>>> to think about that.
>>>> There are developed countries, and under-developed countries.
>>>> I've
>>>> heard about decay,
>>>> but haven't been faced with it. I heard about the Great Depression
>>>> of the
>>>> 1930s, but it
>>>> was over before the morale of the culture could drop.
>>>> Decay may be more gradual, involving a longer period of
>>>> "squeezing"
>>>> the middle
>>>> class. I think that's what is going on, more dramatically in
>>>> Russia,
>>>> perhaps, but also in
>>>> the USA. People are hustling, busy, feeling stressed, and every
>>>> encouragement for giving a
>>>> bit---who has anything left over to give?
>>>> Trillions of dollars are being spent on armaments and the
>>>> support
>>>> systems,
>>>> salaries, oil, etc. for Iraq. Down the tubes. That money leaves
>>>> everyone
>>>> correspondingly
>>>> drained. No money left for this and that.
>>>> At work, equally tight. No money for psychiatric
>>>> treatment, or at
>>>> least, it's
>>>> rationed, so the treatment becomes hurried.
>>>> Management competence is measured in terms of how many
>>>> corners you
>>>> can cut and still
>>>> fool others and yourself that you haven't cut quality. but of
>>>> course you
>>>> have.
>>>> I think this mid-level of decay, hustling, can go on for
>>>> years. People
>>>> can still
>>>> think of themselves as reasonably prosperous, and the advertisers
>>>> and
>>>> media support this
>>>> image. Yet they aren't, they need to keep busier to keep up.
>>>> I think decay can lead to its own sub-type or component of
>>>> demoralization, a
>>>> hardening, all rationalized. No time, no time. Those other things,
>>>> hospitality,
>>>> reciprocity, answering emails... not important.
>>>> If decay continues, it leads to depression, demoralization,
>>>> helplessness, giving
>>>> up. The boundaries may be fuzzy. Perhaps it leads more to
>>>> desperateness
>>>> and the
>>>> rationalization of immorality, crime, fudging the ethics.
>>>> In the hustling stage, there is also increased entitlement. Why
>>>> can't I
>>>> get some too?
>>>> If some get if free, why can't everything be free. It's my right.
>>>> (what,
>>>> after all , is a
>>>> "right" but a social agreement?)
>>>> (My son has been surprised at the emails he receives:
>>>> He's
>>>> developed programs
>>>> for teaching people how to get the most out of programs---in his
>>>> field of
>>>> desktop
>>>> publishing, he's considered a major figure, an expert. But people
>>>> seem to
>>>> resent the not-excessive cost of his instructional programs. Most
>>>> interesting.)
>>>> Indeed, my son read the above and wrote: I think you're quite
>>>> right.
>>>> There has been
>>>> a radical change in how we function. Most of my colleagues simply
>>>> expect
>>>> to work 2 or 3
>>>> people's jobs. Many people I know in management positions are now
>>>> forced
>>>> to fly economy
>>>> class at all times, including frequent trips to Asia, Europe,
>>>> etc., then
>>>> just sigh and say
>>>> what can be done, as the budgets have been slashed, even in
>>>> economic boon.
>>>> Everyone I know
>>>> is exhausted.
>>>> A friend of mine nearing 80 noted one of the most interesting
>>>> changes
>>>> over even the
>>>> past 30 or 40 years is that hardly anyone has time to read the
>>>> newspaper
>>>> anymore. He said
>>>> that even the most stressed out, overworked person would still
>>>> have time
>>>> to read the
>>>> paper. No longer. Too much hustle.
>>>> Hustling at 36,000 feet on my way to a conference in Chicago,
>>>> David>
>>>> Blatner
>>>> What might be your thoughts on this? --
>>>> Warmly,
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:08:30 -0400
>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>> Subject: Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors
>>>> To: "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>> Message-ID: <029201c79182$bd5e2c30$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute New Paltz, NY www.hvpi.net
>>>> hvpi at hvc.rr.com
>>>>
>>>> Early Registration discount if REGISTRATION AND FEE ARE POSTMARKED
>>>> BY May
>>>> 15, 2007!
>>>>
>>>> Discounts also available when two or more people from a single
>>>> agency or
>>>> program register. Contact us for information.
>>>> ACTION METHODS WITH
>>>> SUBSTANCE ABUSE GROUPS:
>>>> Psychodrama, Sociometry and Sociodrama
>>>>
>>>> Trainer: Bill Coleman, LMSW TEP
>>>>
>>>> June 15-16, 2007
>>>> Friday and Saturday 9 A.M. - 5:30 P.M.
>>>> Location: Ulster County, NY
>>>> overnight accommodations are available
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Action Methods for substance abuse groups can be an effective
>>>> entry point
>>>> into recovery for mandated clients, can provide useful tools for
>>>> those
>>>> clients in early recovery who are clinging to a shaky hold on
>>>> sobriety, and
>>>> a method of personal enrichment for those clients in second stage
>>>> who need
>>>> to explore deeper issues. This training will offer participants
>>>> specific
>>>> action method tools for use in their groups with substance abusers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WHAT YOU WILL LEARN!
>>>>
>>>> Warmups: Most mandated groups are comprised of highly resistant and
>>>> defiant members. It is difficult if not impossible to break
>>>> through this
>>>> resistance without the use of specifically crafted warmups.
>>>> Participants
>>>> will learn and practice a series of warmup exercises specific to
>>>> the
>>>> substance abuse group.
>>>>
>>>> Tools: Substance abusers of all categories can benefit from the
>>>> psychodramatic action of Doubling and Role Reversing. Participants
>>>> will
>>>> learn and practice how to introduce these specific tools for use
>>>> in their
>>>> groups.
>>>>
>>>> Structures: Substance Abusers generally respond well to fixed
>>>> therapeutic
>>>> structures rather than an opened ended process. Participants will
>>>> learn and
>>>> practice specific Psychodramatic and Action Structures for use
>>>> with their
>>>> groups.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FEE
>>>> $240 IF REGISTRATION AND FEE ARE POSTMARKED BY May 15, 2007, $300
>>>> AFTER.
>>>>
>>>> REFUND POLICY
>>>> 4 weeks notice: 100% refund
>>>> 2 weeks notice: 50% credit towards future HVPI trainings
>>>>
>>>> Space is limited...register early to avoid being closed out!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Continuing Education Units provided by this training are
>>>> accepted by
>>>> National Association of Alcohol and Drug Abuse Counselors
>>>> (NAADAC), National
>>>> Board of Certified Counselors and towards recertification
>>>> requirements for
>>>> the National Registry of Group Psychotherapists as well as 14
>>>> hours towards
>>>> certification by the American Board of Examiners in Psychodrama
>>>> and Group
>>>> Psychotherapy.
>>>>
>>>> NYS OASES Certified Education and Training Provider
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To Register: Please send a check made out to HVPI to the address
>>>> above.
>>>> Include a piece of paper with your name, phone number, email
>>>> address and
>>>> regular address.
>>>>
>>>> Payment plans may be arranged upon request. It is now possible to
>>>> pay with
>>>> a major credit card.
>>>>
>>>> Contact HVPI for more information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trainer Bio
>>>>
>>>> Bill Coleman, LMSW, TEP, is the co director of LA JORNADA
>>>> INSTITUTE which
>>>> offers professional training in psychodrama, sociometry and group
>>>> psychotherapy to mental health and substance abuse counselors in
>>>> both Tucson
>>>> and New Mexico. Bill is currently on the staff of Sierra Tucson
>>>> where he
>>>> works as a Trauma Therapist. Before moving to the Southwest, Bill
>>>> was a
>>>> staff psychodramatist for at Four Winds Psychiatric Hospital,
>>>> Westchester
>>>> County, NY where he worked with adolescents and adults, including
>>>> running
>>>> groups with the dually diagnosed MICA population. He also
>>>> developed and ran
>>>> the psychodrama program at Freedom Institute, an outpatient
>>>> substance abuse
>>>> facility in New York City. Bill created and taught the HVPI
>>>> "Psychodrama
>>>> with the Chemically Dependent" curriculum for Daytop Village. Bill
>>>> has been
>>>> a frequent presenter at the Hudson Valley Chapter of the American
>>>> Society
>>>> for Group Psychotherapy and Psychodrama monthly meetings as well as
>>>> presenting at the yearly meetings of the American Society for Group
>>>> Psychotherapy and Psychodrama and at the national conference of
>>>> the American
>>>> Society of Group Psychotherapy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
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>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:20:27 -0700
>>> From: "E L" <elindblom at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 14
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>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I am new to the list. I wanted to remark about the Poconos. It
>>> could be that
>>> I am the only one who loved it. I met Rene there for the second
>>> time!
>>> (Marineau). I realized that he was, indeed, the reincarnation of
>>> Moreno.
>>> (Aren't we all? It's an I-God thing.)
>>>
>>> So, anyway, we can't go to the Poconos anymore. I understand. (I
>>> loved it
>>> anyway.)
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/8/07, list-request at grouptalkweb.org <list-
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>>>> 1. RE: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (thana ag)
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>>>> 3. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10 (Dr Kate Hudgins)
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>>>> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 04:20:16 +0000
>>>> From: "thana ag" <anathga at hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>> Dale,
>>>>
>>>> What excellent points you make!!!
>>>>
>>>> I actually remember well that conference in Poconos --and how
>>>> disappointing
>>>> it was.
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that folks who are interested in Psychodrama -are
>>>> also
>>>> interested in theather,and art -and therefore would shell a bit
>>>> more money
>>>> to be in S.F or NYC.? It is quite possible that if ASGPP meeting
>>>> was in
>>>> Manhattan ,rather than in Bklyn -the attendance would've been a
>>>> larger .
>>>> There are some affordable hotels on the Upper West Side,including
>>>> hostels..
>>>> -and the commute to theater and museums is only minutes...
>>>> anath garber
>>>>
>>>>> From: Dale Richard Buchanan <dalerichardbuchanan at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>> Subject: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
>>>>> Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:53:10 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been concerned about some of the postings
>>>>> regarding the costs of the annual meeting. I think
>>>>> before we create a new conserve we should carefully
>>>>> review where we have been, where we want to go, and
>>>>> the consequences, anticipated and unintended, of the
>>>>> new conserve.
>>>>>
>>>>> We must all take one step back and breathe. One of
>>>>> the reasons why I believe that we have such confusion
>>>>> and dissension about the annual meeting is that we
>>>>> have not all agreed to the benchmarks that would
>>>>> signify success for the annual meeting. Some of the
>>>>> benchmarks that I have proposed in the past are the
>>>>> following: Net Income (income from the annual meeting
>>>>> minus all annual meetings expenses), number of total
>>>>> attenders, and number of first time attenders. Now,
>>>>> if we had that information, over time, we could track
>>>>> whether or not the annual meeting was a success. We
>>>>> could also do a graph of these with another item such
>>>>> as hotel room cost that would give us a better idea of
>>>>> the correlation of the room expense with the
>>>>> benchmarks. I know I could get us a very good deal at
>>>>> a summer camp in North Dakota, but don't think the
>>>>> attendance would be very good even if it was very
>>>>> cheap (smile).
>>>>>
>>>>> To my understanding the Miami Annual meeting was one
>>>>> of the least expensive in many a year. Airfare into
>>>>> and from Miami or Ft. Lauderdale are among the lowest
>>>>> in the country. I just paid $149 for a roundtrip
>>>>> airfare from DC to Miami. AIrfares from the Coast
>>>>> seldom exceed $300 versus the $440 I just paid for
>>>>> roundtrip to Seattlle. The hotel costs in Miami were
>>>>> among the lowest ever with a cost of just $109. The
>>>>> Chairs (Mary Bellofatto, Nancy Kirsener & Sue McMunn)
>>>>> also made arrangements for room sharing with up to
>>>>> four persons in a room.
>>>>> Thanks to the Chairs frugal spending the conference
>>>>> made a lot of money but the attendance was very low --
>>>>> about two hundred below San Francisco which was much
>>>>> more expensive, and about 150 below this year's
>>>>> conference which was also expensive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Beware of unintended consequences! When Zerka was
>>>>> President, and I was her Vice-President we listened to
>>>>> the membership nd they wanted a less expensive annual
>>>>> meeting. We tried an experiment by going to the
>>>>> Poconos at a retreat center. We did everything that
>>>>> was asked: leisure time to connect with others, good
>>>>> inexpensive food in family style dining, inexpensive
>>>>> lodging, recreational facilities to enjoy, etc. Well,
>>>>> in the Poconos we have about 1/4 the attendance of the
>>>>> New York Conference. The worst was that while we had
>>>>> met or exceeded all the above expectations most said
>>>>> they would never go to this type of annual meeting
>>>>> again. Why, because they were upset that they were
>>>>> not able to offer a workshop. Due to space
>>>>> limitations we only had three or four workshops in
>>>>> each time slot and we limited, at the suggestion of
>>>>> the members, the number of sessions per day to so that
>>>>> people could meet informally. Thus, this
>>>>> disgruntlement over not presenting was a large
>>>>> unintended consequence that was not anticipated.
>>>>>
>>>>> After this I discovered that usually about 40% of the
>>>>> meeting attenders are conducting workshops. When we
>>>>> limit the number of presenters then a large part of
>>>>> the membership is unhappy and does not attend.
>>>>> Trainers from all over the country bring their
>>>>> students and want to be recognized for their training
>>>>> skills and they want their trainees to see their names
>>>>> on the annual program.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know the answers to people's concerns about
>>>>> expenses, but I do know that we must first agree on
>>>>> what equals success for the annual meeting. If we met
>>>>> in a retreat center with 200 attenders when we had 465
>>>>> in San Francisco and 391 in Brooklyn would the retreat
>>>>> be a success. I also think that in many ways the
>>>>> "expense" of the conference is a scapegoat for many
>>>>> others concerns that we have for the annual meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am excited about this discussion and hope that you
>>>>> realize that no matter what we say or do on grouptalk
>>>>> it is the leadership of the ASGPP that will make all
>>>>> final decisions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peace, Dale Richard Buchanan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 04:46:21 -0400
>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>> To: "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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>>>> One of the best things about this discussion is how many people are
>>>> actually commenting. It is good to know there are so many folks
>>>> out there in
>>>> grouptalk land.
>>>> Rebecca
>>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
>>>> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
>>>> (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
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>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:28:55 -0400
>>>> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10
>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>> Great Adam that you are engaging.
>>>>
>>>> I have found for myself that it has been through psychology and
>>>> psychotherapy conferences around the world that I have gotten TSM
>>>> accepted and promoted. In AUgust last year I was one of the
>>>> plenary
>>>> speakers at the World COngress on Psychotherapy in Malaysia and
>>>> will
>>>> again be a keynote speaker when it meets in Japan next year
>>>> (already
>>>> invited, arranged and will be paid to do so).
>>>>
>>>> Michael Weiser of Austria and Kiyoshi Takara of Japan came to my
>>>> house following the conference to visit with Zerka and make plans
>>>> with me for Japan. They are both clinical psychologists like I am.
>>>>
>>>> I told them how I anchor TSM not just in psychodrama but in the
>>>> very large body of research of experiential psychotherapy (look up
>>>> Les Greenberg and Robert Elliott) as well as van der Kolk's
>>>> neurobiology on trauma. This is what needs to happen. Psychodrama
>>>> needs to be brought into the mainstream. I have presented at
>>>> ISTSS,
>>>> SPR, IADES, and many other psychology conferences here and abroad.
>>>> This is how TSM has become so widespread. We also need to
>>>> connect to
>>>> the drama therapy community that has a good academic presentation.
>>>>
>>>> I will be conducting a research project in China next year at a
>>>> minimum of 4 universities and maybe up to 8. Currently Dr Lai in
>>>> Taiwan is doing a pilot study on a 12 week TSM group for women who
>>>> have experienced domestic violence. We will take the protocol
>>>> and do
>>>> it in CHina January 08 with adolescents and young people that are
>>>> addicted to the internet, funded by the government! All of my
>>>> connections in Taiwan and China have been with psychologists
>>>> sponsoring my work. It has worked and we will continue to progress
>>>> psychodrama in Asia though these channels.
>>>>
>>>> I have also connected with business people who are excited to
>>>> market
>>>> Action Solutions, our business applications of TSM> My husband
>>>> and I
>>>> will be conducting the first psychodrama workshop for people that
>>>> are
>>>> signed up for internet dating/matching in July. The conference in
>>>> Suzhou that Gong Shu is organizing will be bringing several Western
>>>> psychodramatists to China. I think psychodrama will soon be
>>>> loved by
>>>> many in CHina.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, I am getting about 4-5 requests a month about TSM
>>>> training
>>>> in USA becaues it is now mentioned in Corsini's chapter on group
>>>> psychotherapy that is the text for most graduate programs and 3
>>>> chapters are being published on it during the 1st few months of
>>>> this
>>>> year through drama therapy channels and a book on Advanced Theories
>>>> of Psychodrama in Europe.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps others. Kate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Adam M. Barcroft wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ed,
>>>>> I was at that ASGPP Journal meeting also,
>>>>> and I remember when Tian said, three different times during the
>>>>> meeting,
>>>>> "The Circle is Broken here. We need to heal the broken circle."
>>>>> From across the room, each time I heard her say this,
>>>>> I felt large shock waves moving through my body.
>>>>> Needless to say, I was more than a little surprised to be feeling
>>>>> each of these shocks,
>>>>> blasting through me.
>>>>>
>>>>> After the meeting, as I walked around finding my next workshop's
>>>>> room,
>>>>> I experienced a catharsis of integration about
>>>>> Tian's message, and the solution.
>>>>> I saw Tian moments later in the hallway,
>>>>> I walked over to her and said, excitedly,
>>>>> "Tian! I have to tell you that I just figured out how we
>>>>> heal the broken circle!" I paused, then said,
>>>>> "The ENCOUNTER heals the broken circle!"
>>>>> And as the master teacher and student that she is,
>>>>> her eyes lit up with recognition, and gratitude. A hug,
>>>>> and then she was off to the next room too.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is, as Ed has already stated,
>>>>> what was set in motion during our Journal meeting:
>>>>> an encounter among representatives of the ASGPP Journal,
>>>>> (with me in the role of student-interested-in-publishing
>>>>> in various written formats and also research articles),
>>>>> who communicated and clarified honestly and openly,
>>>>> with full inclusion.
>>>>> The Encounter heals the broken circle.
>>>>> Meet my new mantra.
>>>>> The entire experience was quite moving for me,
>>>>> and plants a seed of understanding in my thinking about
>>>>> the foundations of the Morenean Arts and Sciences.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Ed for reminding me of the epiphany I had,
>>>>> so that I could share my response with you and others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I am enjoying (watching) the discussions since the
>>>>> conference,
>>>>> and I am very impressed by how thoughtfully, intelligently,
>>>>> candidly
>>>>> and respectfully
>>>>> our membership is taking the "Future Conferences" discussion.
>>>>> What Kim Cox is saying I have been feeling for years now,
>>>>> to present psychodrama at other conference venues,
>>>>> and I've always justified not going to other national conferences
>>>>> because of issues with time & money.
>>>>> You can be sure Kim that I won't be making that error any longer.
>>>>> I am committed to making presentations at other venues,
>>>>> such as the Networker Conference next March.
>>>>> Are there new conference postings and announcements that the ASGPP
>>>>> sends out regularly,
>>>>> having to do with ongoing conferences held by any organization
>>>>> where
>>>>> we might consider presenting? Or could there be an ASGPP website
>>>>> forum for posting announcements about upcoming national and
>>>>> international conferences?
>>>>>
>>>>> In my opinion what Steve Gordon, Kim Cox, and others are saying
>>>>> is very helpful input.
>>>>> It is good to see such creativity flowing,
>>>>> boldly and directly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam M. Barcroft
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Re: next conference (Adam Blatner)
>>>>>> 2. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
>>>>>> 3. Re: next conference (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>>> 4. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
>>>>>> 5. FW: Conference on Dissociation (Karen Carnabucci)
>>>>>> 6. Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>> community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
>>>>>> 7. RE: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>> community (Sandy Blackman)
>>>>>> 8. Moreno museum (Michael Wieser)
>>>>>> 9. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>> community (Kim Cox)
>>>>>> 10. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>> community (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>>> 11. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>> community (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
>>>>>> 12. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>> community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
>>>>>> 13. World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>>> 14. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno
>>>>>> (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
>>>>>> 15. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward
>>>>>> Schreiber)
>>>>>> 16. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>>> 17. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>>> 18. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>>> 19. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward
>>>>>> Schreiber)
>>>>>> 20. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>>>>> 21. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>>>>> 22. Re: conference (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>>>>> 23. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>>> 24. Re: conference (HV Psychodrama)
>>>>>> 25. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>>> 26. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>>> 27. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward
>>>>>> Schreiber)
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 13:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>> From: Adam Blatner <ablatner at verizon.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the
>>>>>> motivation or willingness to attend the national conference
>>>>>> and if
>>>>>> so, what will that do to the asgpp as a national organization?
>>>>>> adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote: Ed, Michael, and
>>>>>> others who live in Western Mass/Albany area/New Paltz What if we
>>>>>> got together and planned a two day conference for people who live
>>>>>> locally? Had anyone else done that...is there a template out
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> for creating and running a short conference? Anyone interested in
>>>>>> helping to create a template if there isn't one already?
>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: PATRICIA DESERT
>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well
>>>>>> including John Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U.,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Morgan. Towson University is a state school and could be even
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> affordable than the private colleges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of folks
>>>>>> who would have rooms in their homes to let for the weekend. For
>>>>>> example, I have two bedrooms available and if the conference were
>>>>>> in Baltimore I could create such a list. What a nice experience
>>>>>> for folks from other countries to experience a welcoming American
>>>>>> family and home life as well as the conference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patti
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber
>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith College,
>>>>>> University
>>>>>> of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt. Holyoke
>>>>>> College. We could find one college, I am sure, to house a
>>>>>> conference in 2009. Colleges end mid-May, so we would have to
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> an early June conference. The conference could include, for
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> who wanted, rental of a dorm room. There are hotels here as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The criteria I hear from many is simply cost. Miami was great
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> the cost was high. If we want to attract many we have to
>>>>>> make it
>>>>>> affordable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:28:04 -0400
>>>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>> To: <adam at blatner.com>, <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>> Message-ID: <006101c7901d$0d6395b0$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
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>>>>>> I think if it planned right, in terms of timing, it will not
>>>>>> interfere, but perhaps inspire people to attend the national
>>>>>> conference. Look, the bottom line is that any number of folks
>>>>>> cannot afford to travel to the places we hold the national
>>>>>> conferences. They don't get to enjoy the sense of community that
>>>>>> develops around the love of psychodrama that those of us who
>>>>>> travel
>>>>>> every year to the national conferences enjoy. My hope would be
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> local conferences would get and keep people engaged with the
>>>>>> method, and perhaps they would in turn attend the national
>>>>>> conference at another time. Think of it as advanced marketing.
>>>>>> Next years conference is in Texas. I know most of my students
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> not going to attend. Why not have a conference here in the east
>>>>>> that would keep them connected until the conference returns to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> north east. The other thing would be to be sure to hold it at a
>>>>>> different time, certainly not April if that is when than national
>>>>>> conference is held.
>>>>>> I think it would be a terrific marketing idea for
>>>>>> psychodramatists in Texas to hold one of two short conferences
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> fall, to help develop a taste for an experience that will be
>>>>>> fulfilled at the national conference next spring.
>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Adam Blatner
>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:04 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the
>>>>>> motivation or willingness to attend the national conference
>>>>>> and if
>>>>>> so, what will that do to the asgpp as a national organization?
>>>>>> adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Ed, Michael, and others who live in Western Mass/Albany area/
>>>>>> New Paltz What if we got together and planned a two day
>>>>>> conference
>>>>>> for people who live locally? Had anyone else done that...is
>>>>>> there a
>>>>>> template out there for creating and running a short conference?
>>>>>> Anyone interested in helping to create a template if there isn't
>>>>>> one already?
>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: PATRICIA DESERT
>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well
>>>>>> including John Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U.,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Morgan. Towson University is a state school and could be even
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> affordable than the private colleges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of
>>>>>> folks who would have rooms in their homes to let for the weekend.
>>>>>> For example, I have two bedrooms available and if the conference
>>>>>> were in Baltimore I could create such a list. What a nice
>>>>>> experience for folks from other countries to experience a
>>>>>> welcoming
>>>>>> American family and home life as well as the conference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patti
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber
>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith
>>>>>> College,
>>>>>> University
>>>>>> of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt.
>>>>>> Holyoke
>>>>>> College. We could find one college, I am sure, to
>>>>>> house a
>>>>>> conference in 2009. Colleges end mid-May, so we would
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to have
>>>>>> an early June conference. The conference could include,
>>>>>> for those
>>>>>> who wanted, rental of a dorm room. There are hotels here
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The criteria I hear from many is simply cost. Miami was
>>>>>> great but
>>>>>> the cost was high. If we want to attract many we
>>>>>> have to
>>>>>> make it
>>>>>> affordable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
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>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:51:37 -0400
>>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>> Message-ID: <6C60773E-0A0E-4787-9149-3846A0ED4505 at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
>>>>>> to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
>>>>>> we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
>>>>>> conference for 2009, at a University in late May.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
>>>>>> to put together an exploratory committee. If we have
>>>>>> sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
>>>>>> New Paltz or someplace like that. And if we explored it
>>>>>> and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
>>>>>> to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
>>>>>> conference of HV and Western Mass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could even look at Albany!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 17:22:21 -0400
>>>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>> Message-ID: <001601c79024$a2351a40$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just sent off an email to a bunch of local people...we shall
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> what sort
>>>>>> of interest there is in that,
>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:51 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
>>>>>>> to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
>>>>>>> we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
>>>>>>> conference for 2009, at a University in late May.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
>>>>>>> to put together an exploratory committee. If we have
>>>>>>> sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
>>>>>>> New Paltz or someplace like that. And if we explored it
>>>>>>> and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
>>>>>>> to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
>>>>>>> conference of HV and Western Mass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could even look at Albany!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:40:36 -0400
>>>>>> From: "Karen Carnabucci" <karen at companionsinhealing.com>
>>>>>> Subject: FW: Conference on Dissociation
>>>>>> To: <therapeutic-spiral at yahoogroups.com>,
>>>>>> <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <
>>>> 9BD8AA83B7777E478DA1EAFAFA133B1E06776B10 at CL4EXBE03.ad2.softcom.biz>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI see below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP
>>>>>> Companions In Healing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lake House Health & Learning Center
>>>>>> 932 Lake Ave.
>>>>>> Racine, WI 53403
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (262) 633-2645
>>>>>> karen at companionsinhealing.com
>>>>>> <blocked::javascript:parent.ComposeTo
>>>>>> ('karen at companionsinhealing.com');>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> www.lakehousecenter.com/>
>>>>>> www.companionsinhealing.com
>>>>>> <blocked::http://www.companionsinhealing.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Clinicians_Exchange at yahoogroups.com
>>>>>> [mailto:Clinicians_Exchange at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sharon
>>>>>> Farber
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 8:10 PM
>>>>>> To: DISSOCIATIVE-DISORDERS at LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG
>>>>>> Subject: [Clinicians_Exchange] Conference on Dissociation
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To those who are in the NY area and have an interest in
>>>>>> dissociation,
>>>>>> the NY State Society of Clinical Social Work's annual conference
>>>>>> will be
>>>>>> on the subject of dissociation. It will be held at the Fordham
>>>>>> University Graduate Center in NYC, at 60th and Columbus Ave. this
>>>>>> Saturday, May 18. There will be workshops on various aspects of
>>>>>> dissociation, including one that I will be doing, The Inner
>>>>>> Predator:
>>>>>> Trauma and Dissociation in Bodily Self-Harm (eating disorders,
>>>>>> self-mutilation), based on the papers I was invited to present
>>>>>> at the
>>>>>> APA's National Convention in New Orleans in August and which I
>>>>>> presented
>>>>>> at the National Membership Committee on Psychoanalysis in
>>>>>> Clinical
>>>>>> Social Work's National conference in Chicago in March. .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sharon Farber
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sharon K. Farber, PhD.
>>>>>> 142 Edgars Lane
>>>>>> Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
>>>>>> www.Drsharonfarber.com <http://www.Drsharonfarber.com>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Message: 6
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:58:02 EDT
>>>>>> From: Hug4abear at aol.com
>>>>>> Subject: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>> community
>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>> Message-ID: <c50.1285e6f1.336fe1aa at aol.com>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> To all:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I appreciate watching the dialogue about how we can make the
>>>>>> ASGPP a
>>>>>> stronger organization and increasing the size of the psychodrama
>>>>>> community,
>>>>>> including the view that we need to do a better job of drawing
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> certain segment of
>>>>>> the population that is seriously under represented in our
>>>>>> community; namely,
>>>>>> post-baby-boomers (people born after the early 1960s). Perhaps
>>>>>> two
>>>>>> additional metrics for measuring the success of the annual
>>>>>> conference (and the
>>>>>> psychodrama community) could be: (1) how many first time
>>>>>> attendees
>>>>>> we have
>>>>>> attracted; and (2) are we increasing the demographic diversity of
>>>>>> the community.
>>>>>> Does the ASGPP track these data points?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have several thoughts on these issues. First, it seems to me
>>>>>> that the
>>>>>> issue of ensuring the long term viability of the ASGPP and the
>>>>>> psychodrama
>>>>>> community may involve numerous issue, not merely bringing the
>>>>>> cost
>>>>>> of the annual
>>>>>> conference down. Has there ever been a formal study that
>>>>>> looked at
>>>>>> the issue
>>>>>> of long-term planning for our community? Some questions that
>>>>>> could be
>>>>>> addressed: What are the typical points of entry to the
>>>>>> psychodrama community?
>>>>>> (Based upon anecdotal evidence, I do not think that most
>>>>>> people?s
>>>>>> first exposure
>>>>>> to psychodrama is the ASGPP annual conference.) Do we know how
>>>>>> first time
>>>>>> attendee have heard about the annual conference?