Sociatric Creatocracy
Adam M. Barcroft
amb1 at hughes.net
Wed May 9 13:43:12 CDT 2007
Regina, Adam, others,
I'm going out on a limb here,
because I'm about to make a bold statement,
and I am not used to such behavior from myself on Group-Talk,
given that I just began contributing recently,
and I feel slightly vulnerable that I say the "wrong thing" or offend
anyone,
but Adam began it, Regina continued it, and now I want to say something:
Isn't our economic system basically insane and destructive,
for shameless war-profiteering
(at least speaking for myself as an American about America)
and economic production,
at the cost of the blood and sweat of the masses,
and at irreparable harm to our natural resources and existing ecology?
So the question is, what parts need adjusting and more centrally,
what are sane and appropriate responses to an insane and destructive
economic system?
These are important times to be generating alternative world views.
As Edith Wharton has said, "It is better to light a candle or become
the mirror that reflects it."
In that spirit, my answer is that by applying all I am learning
about the Morenean Arts and Sciences to healing of society,
the spinning, the time squeeze, the hustling,
notions and conditions of decay and prosperity,
and, with the help of Ed Schreiber, Hector Sabelli, and many many
others,
to develop to fruition Dr. Moreno's unfinished work of Sociatry,
for the whole of humankind.
For a sociatric creatocracy.
I don't see any other way, for me, really. That's my agenda.
Now it's the figuring out exactly how that will work that concerns me.
Adam M. Barcroft
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 19:28:17 -0400
> From: REGINA SEWELL <sewell.2 at osu.edu>
> Subject: Time squeeze
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>
> Adam [Blatner],
>
> Thank you! This issue you talk about... hustling to get by... no
> time... Doing more and more work and, in real dollars, making
> less and less. All the while the rich get richer, and the number
> of people living in poverty is expanding. And the middle class is
> too busy working and struggling to really do anything about it.
> Govt. statistics are starting to show this but don't capture it
> really because many of the undocumented folks - the most exploited
> group - don't show up in these statistics.
>
> And yet, there is more to it. We are so sucked in to consumer
> capitalism. Most people truly feel they "have to have" things to
> function... a cell phone, a lap top, cable tv, high speed access to
> the internet, a car, a microwave oven (note that many of these
> things are about time utilization.... to make us more
> efficient... so that many people (I actually find this appallling)
> can even conduct business, or at least network or connect with
> friends while you're on the toilet). But if we weren't working so
> much to pay the cell phone and high speed internet bill, we might
> have time to actually cook and wouldn't need that microwave and
> talk to people on the cell phone in the car. And we wouldn't feel
> like such zombies at the end of the day that we just need to tune
> in to anything on cable to numb out.
>
> It seems to me that part of this "spinning" you described is what
> Lewis Yablonsky was talking about when he talked about Robopaths.
> It also sounds like what Marx was trying to describe when he talked
> about alienation over a century ago.
>
> And the catch is, how do we change this world? How do we use our
> skills to challenge a system so huge that even social revolutions
> (the Russian Revolution, the Chinese revolution) did little more
> than forestall? At a practical level, how do we get people in the
> door to work on issues of time when they feel like they have so
> little?
>
> regina sewell
>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:59:13 -0500
>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
>> Subject: economic squeezes
>> To: < list at grouptalkweb.org>
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>>
>> Dear All,
>> Re economic stresses in our times: I would suggest that there
>> is a state we might
>> call "hustling" that operates between prosperity and
>> demoralization. In prosperity, there
>> is surplus time/energy to build the society, and the sub-societies.
>> The decline of
>> civilizations comes with a general sense of economic and social
>> decay, and I'm beginning
>> to think about that.
>> There are developed countries, and under-developed countries.
>> I've heard about decay,
>> but haven't been faced with it. I heard about the Great Depression
>> of the 1930s, but it
>> was over before the morale of the culture could drop.
>> Decay may be more gradual, involving a longer period of
>> "squeezing" the middle
>> class. I think that's what is going on, more dramatically in
>> Russia, perhaps, but also in
>> the USA. People are hustling, busy, feeling stressed, and every
>> encouragement for giving a
>> bit---who has anything left over to give?
>> Trillions of dollars are being spent on armaments and the
>> support systems,
>> salaries, oil, etc. for Iraq. Down the tubes. That money leaves
>> everyone correspondingly
>> drained. No money left for this and that.
>> At work, equally tight. No money for psychiatric treatment,
>> or at least, it's
>> rationed, so the treatment becomes hurried.
>> Management competence is measured in terms of how many corners
>> you can cut and still
>> fool others and yourself that you haven't cut quality. but of
>> course you have.
>> I think this mid-level of decay, hustling, can go on for years.
>> People can still
>> think of themselves as reasonably prosperous, and the advertisers
>> and media support this
>> image. Yet they aren't, they need to keep busier to keep up.
>> I think decay can lead to its own sub-type or component of
>> demoralization, a
>> hardening, all rationalized. No time, no time. Those other things,
>> hospitality,
>> reciprocity, answering emails... not important.
>> If decay continues, it leads to depression, demoralization,
>> helplessness, giving
>> up. The boundaries may be fuzzy. Perhaps it leads more to
>> desperateness and the
>> rationalization of immorality, crime, fudging the ethics.
>> In the hustling stage, there is also increased entitlement. Why
>> can't I get some too?
>> If some get if free, why can't everything be free. It's my right.
>> (what, after all , is a
>> "right" but a social agreement?)
>> (My son has been surprised at the emails he receives:
>> He's developed programs
>> for teaching people how to get the most out of programs---in his
>> field of desktop
>> publishing, he's considered a major figure, an expert. But people
>> seem to
>> resent the not-excessive cost of his instructional programs. Most
>> interesting.)
>> Indeed, my son read the above and wrote: I think you're quite
>> right. There has been
>> a radical change in how we function. Most of my colleagues simply
>> expect to work 2 or 3
>> people's jobs. Many people I know in management positions are now
>> forced to fly economy
>> class at all times, including frequent trips to Asia, Europe, etc.,
>> then just sigh and say
>> what can be done, as the budgets have been slashed, even in
>> economic boon. Everyone I know
>> is exhausted.
>> A friend of mine nearing 80 noted one of the most interesting
>> changes over even the
>> past 30 or 40 years is that hardly anyone has time to read the
>> newspaper anymore. He said
>> that even the most stressed out, overworked person would still have
>> time to read the
>> paper. No longer. Too much hustle.
>> Hustling at 36,000 feet on my way to a conference in Chicago,
>> David> Blatner
>> What might be your thoughts on this? --
>> Warmly, Adam [Blatner]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:08:30 -0400
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>> Subject: Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors
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> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 21:18:03 -0500
> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> Subject: teaching psychodrama at Harvard
> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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> Dear Eric Lindblom, I think I met you on a couple of occasions at
> ASGPP conferences maybe 10 - 20 years ago. Might that be true?
> It was good to hear about your continuing movement toward the
> field. Would you be willing to share your class syllabus? What
> readings will you be recommending? What class, exactly, will this
> be? In what department?
> Although you have a good deal of psychodrama training, I
> asked you not to put yourself forward as primarily a
> psychodramatist because that has been the policy of the Board of
> Examiners and, I thought, the consensus of thinking of the ASGPP.
> (Since you mentioned my name, I thought this might be an
> opportunity for me to double-check my understanding with the
> general readership of Grouptalk. What do y'all think?)
>
> I'm glad to hear that psychodrama is being presented in any
> academic setting, and of course, Harvard has a good deal of
> prestige. I hope you'll tell us about your experiences.
> (Many questions come to mind, such as: will it be aimed at
> psychotherapists? will it be more sociodramatic? What would be
> the aspects that you might not teach? Which methods will you use?
> Would you like to know about others in your area whom you might
> call on either as guests, temporary presenters to your class, or
> consultants?)
>
> Best wishes, Adam
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: E L
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:14 PM
> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15
>
>
> Hi all
>
> Re: I'm new!!!!!
>
> I am new to the list and wanted to introduce myself. I was
> invited by Tom Treadwell. I wanted to add to the wonderful things
> about Zerka. She directed me once about twenty years ago in a
> psychodramatic baby psychodrama. She is wonderful. She has such a
> light touch when directing and, at the same time, is very clear.
> You always know where she is. I love it.
>
> To introduce myself. I am trained for ten years or so by Don
> Miller, Martin and Chelly Haskell, Doug Warner and Alan Wickersty.
> I practiced, then, for six years as a psychodrama trainer for The
> State of Maryland with Rene Clay and Constantine Sackles where I
> was supervised by Doug Warner. (Alan Blatner asked me if I would
> not call myself a psychodramatist. That's fine for now.) I've been
> on a break since 1988 from psychodrama to do some thinking about
> it. Hey, it took a while!
>
> So now coming back, I am teaching Psychodrama at Harvard
> University (h2o). My intuitive sense is this shall be quite good.
>
> http://personas.bravehost.com/7.html
>
> Eric
>
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> 1. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
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> 2. My work and business (BARNETT WEISS)
> 3. economic squeezes (Adam Blatner)
> 4. Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors (HV
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:39:23 -0400
> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com >
> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> YEs, absolutely Zerka is THE best!!!!! I am truly blessed to
> live
> in Cville and see her and other psychodramatists who come to
> see her
> so often. I have NEVER EVER heard her say anything bad about
> another
> human being. She is totally accepting and filled with care for
> her.
> She has taught me how to be with my students, fully accepting
> and NO
> criticism. I believe it is due to Zerka even more than JL who has
> brought psychodrama to where we are now.
>
> I look forward to seeing you for the workshop in June at her
> house.
> I will not attend the workshop but a TSM student of mine will
> be here
> and we plan on making a THanksgiving dinner for you all on
> saturday
> night--to celebrate psychodrama family. I wish Zerka could
> come, but
> I know she will be tired after a day of teaching.
>
> Some of my Taiwan and Chinese students came for a workshop with
> her 2
> weekends ago and 2 international psychodramatists came last
> weekend
> and she did a masterful job at both. She is amazing!
>
> See you soon. Tele, Kate
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>
>> Hi Kate,
>> Zerka Moreno is the best example in my life
>> and I say that honestly - this is about me and my life -
>> the best example (besides my own mother) for what
>> it means to include people at the table. That Zerka
>> has embraced and included me is a gift she has given
>> to how many hundreds of people, or thousands?
>>
>> What an absolute joy for me to meet Guy Taylor again
>> at the Conference. He was such an important part of my
>> learning about psychodramatic work and his teaching has
>> influenced me so profoundly in such positive ways.
>> Best,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> On May 7, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
>>
>>> thank you sweetie. I AM Glad to be home. I will go back to
>>> Taiwan and CHina from July to November to do TSM work so am truly
>>> and absolutely enjoying this time. I now have an apartment in
>>> Shanghai so that helps. Tele and love to you, kate
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2007, at 1:57 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Kate
>>>> I love what you are suggesting...welcome home.
>>>> I have missed you
>>>> Rosalie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See what's free at AOL.com.
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>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>>
>>> Clinical Psychologist
>>> Director of Training
>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
>>>
>>>
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> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
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> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
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> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 06:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>
> Subject: My work and business
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> Dear People:
> Please call or write me back channel to my individual e-mail
> address about the Entertainment/Educational digital business I have
> entered into which can support all of the work we are doing here in
> the US and opening in England, Canada, Australia and parts of Asia
> in less than 45 days. It will then be opening in over 100 countries
> in the next 3 years. We can move our books, CDs, DVD's, everything
> that can be digitalized into their library for sale to the millions
> who willl be receiving the ability even for free to have a site
> from which they can advertise and sell these materials at
> tremendous financial and publicity benefit to us and them for the
> spread of the information. There has never been anything like this
> in the history of entertainment publishing or marketing. It is
> truly of by and for the people. Blessings, Bud
>
> Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW
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> Brooklyn, NY 11209
> E-Mail: Budweiss at verizon.net
> Cell (917)-751-3395
> web page: WWW.BURNLOUNGE.COM/BUDSLOUNGE
>
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 4:46:21 AM
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>
> One of the best things about this discussion is how many people
> are actually commenting. It is good to know there are so many folks
> out there in grouptalk land.
> Rebecca
> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
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> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:59:13 -0500
> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> Subject: economic squeezes
> To: < list at grouptalkweb.org>
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> Dear All,
> Re economic stresses in our times: I would suggest that
> there is a state we might
> call "hustling" that operates between prosperity and
> demoralization. In prosperity, there
> is surplus time/energy to build the society, and the sub-
> societies. The decline of
> civilizations comes with a general sense of economic and social
> decay, and I'm beginning
> to think about that.
> There are developed countries, and under-developed
> countries. I've heard about decay,
> but haven't been faced with it. I heard about the Great
> Depression of the 1930s, but it
> was over before the morale of the culture could drop.
> Decay may be more gradual, involving a longer period of
> "squeezing" the middle
> class. I think that's what is going on, more dramatically in
> Russia, perhaps, but also in
> the USA. People are hustling, busy, feeling stressed, and every
> encouragement for giving a
> bit---who has anything left over to give?
> Trillions of dollars are being spent on armaments and
> the support systems,
> salaries, oil, etc. for Iraq. Down the tubes. That money leaves
> everyone correspondingly
> drained. No money left for this and that.
> At work, equally tight. No money for psychiatric
> treatment, or at least, it's
> rationed, so the treatment becomes hurried.
> Management competence is measured in terms of how many
> corners you can cut and still
> fool others and yourself that you haven't cut quality. but of
> course you have.
> I think this mid-level of decay, hustling, can go on for
> years. People can still
> think of themselves as reasonably prosperous, and the
> advertisers and media support this
> image. Yet they aren't, they need to keep busier to keep up.
> I think decay can lead to its own sub-type or component of
> demoralization, a
> hardening, all rationalized. No time, no time. Those other
> things, hospitality,
> reciprocity, answering emails... not important.
> If decay continues, it leads to depression,
> demoralization, helplessness, giving
> up. The boundaries may be fuzzy. Perhaps it leads more to
> desperateness and the
> rationalization of immorality, crime, fudging the ethics.
> In the hustling stage, there is also increased entitlement.
> Why can't I get some too?
> If some get if free, why can't everything be free. It's my
> right. (what, after all , is a
> "right" but a social agreement?)
> (My son has been surprised at the emails he
> receives: He's developed programs
> for teaching people how to get the most out of programs---in
> his field of desktop
> publishing, he's considered a major figure, an expert. But
> people seem to
> resent the not-excessive cost of his instructional programs.
> Most interesting.)
> Indeed, my son read the above and wrote: I think you're
> quite right. There has been
> a radical change in how we function. Most of my colleagues
> simply expect to work 2 or 3
> people's jobs. Many people I know in management positions are
> now forced to fly economy
> class at all times, including frequent trips to Asia, Europe,
> etc., then just sigh and say
> what can be done, as the budgets have been slashed, even in
> economic boon. Everyone I know
> is exhausted.
> A friend of mine nearing 80 noted one of the most
> interesting changes over even the
> past 30 or 40 years is that hardly anyone has time to read the
> newspaper anymore. He said
> that even the most stressed out, overworked person would still
> have time to read the
> paper. No longer. Too much hustle.
> Hustling at 36,000 feet on my way to a conference in
> Chicago, David> Blatner
> What might be your thoughts on this? --
> Warmly, Adam
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:08:30 -0400
> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> Subject: Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors
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> Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 13:43:13 +1000
> From: Peter Howie <peterhowie at macquariehouse.com.au>
> Subject: Re: economic squeezes
> To: Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>,list at grouptalkweb.org
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> Hi Adam,
>
> When you present in this manner, for some reason, I take the time to
> read it. An irony - taking time to read about not enough time.
>
> It reminds me of a book by Jame Gliek called "F*s*t*r" which I
> haven't read despite owning it.
>
> I am caught up by a range of stories and narrative line that flow
> through our societies. Such as a "rich getting richer". Well that is
> a pretty obvious thing - what else are the rich going to do? - Once
> a person's wealth is greater than what they consume then they begin
> to accumulate and the accumulation tends to accelerate when the
> accumulated amount begin's to accumulating as well. I guess this line
> relates to the idea that their wealth comes from others getting
> poorer which is a spurious economic argument these days. And as for
> the 'poor getting poorer' - possibly in the States but not in
> Australia where the poverty line is continually raised though the
> application of social services, economic growth and subsequent
> opportunities to join the treadmill. However the difference between
> the rich and the poor is getting bigger. But poor is fairly
> stationary (despite incremental improvements) while any wealth
> increase will make the gap bigger. Maybe the discussion is around
> obscene wealth of the likes of Trump et al.
>
> One of them main economic arguments that I am aware of is that money
> needs to flow. Maybe it is flowing too quickly. Many folks around
> here are 'downsizing' their lives to give themselves more time for
> family, life, leisure, study, reading, fun, play, social time, doing
> nothing, prayer, meditation and time to smell the roses. When I see
> and hear about this I don't get so concerned regarding 'decay' as you
> might Adam.
>
> However the hustling idea is a good one. I also notice a lot of
> people acting like 'chiselers' that is being always on the lookout
> for their advantage. I notice it most when my grandkids want a little
> bit more than I am easily prepared to give.
>
> Cheers for now
>
> Peter Howie
> Brisbane, Australia
>
>
>
>
> At 12:59 AM 9/05/2007, you wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> Re economic stresses in our times: I would suggest that there
>> is a state we might
>> call "hustling" that operates between prosperity and demoralization.
>> In prosperity, there
>> is surplus time/energy to build the society, and the sub-societies.
>> The decline of
>> civilizations comes with a general sense of economic and social
>> decay, and I'm beginning
>> to think about that.
>> There are developed countries, and under-developed countries.
>> I've heard about decay,
>> but haven't been faced with it. I heard about the Great Depression
>> of the 1930s, but it
>> was over before the morale of the culture could drop.
>> Decay may be more gradual, involving a longer period of
>> "squeezing" the middle
>> class. I think that's what is going on, more dramatically in Russia,
>> perhaps, but also in
>> the USA. People are hustling, busy, feeling stressed, and every
>> encouragement for giving a
>> bit---who has anything left over to give?
>> Trillions of dollars are being spent on armaments and the
>> support systems,
>> salaries, oil, etc. for Iraq. Down the tubes. That money leaves
>> everyone correspondingly
>> drained. No money left for this and that.
>> At work, equally tight. No money for psychiatric
>> treatment, or at least, it's
>> rationed, so the treatment becomes hurried.
>> Management competence is measured in terms of how many
>> corners you can cut and still
>> fool others and yourself that you haven't cut quality. but of
>> course you have.
>> I think this mid-level of decay, hustling, can go on for
>> years. People can still
>> think of themselves as reasonably prosperous, and the advertisers
>> and media support this
>> image. Yet they aren't, they need to keep busier to keep up.
>> I think decay can lead to its own sub-type or component of
>> demoralization, a
>> hardening, all rationalized. No time, no time. Those other things,
>> hospitality,
>> reciprocity, answering emails... not important.
>> If decay continues, it leads to depression, demoralization,
>> helplessness, giving
>> up. The boundaries may be fuzzy. Perhaps it leads more to
>> desperateness and the
>> rationalization of immorality, crime, fudging the ethics.
>> In the hustling stage, there is also increased entitlement. Why
>> can't I get some too?
>> If some get if free, why can't everything be free. It's my right.
>> (what, after all , is a
>> "right" but a social agreement?)
>> (My son has been surprised at the emails he receives:
>> He's developed programs
>> for teaching people how to get the most out of programs---in his
>> field of desktop
>> publishing, he's considered a major figure, an expert. But people
>> seem to
>> resent the not-excessive cost of his instructional programs. Most
>> interesting.)
>> Indeed, my son read the above and wrote: I think you're quite
>> right. There has been
>> a radical change in how we function. Most of my colleagues simply
>> expect to work 2 or 3
>> people's jobs. Many people I know in management positions are now
>> forced to fly economy
>> class at all times, including frequent trips to Asia, Europe, etc.,
>> then just sigh and say
>> what can be done, as the budgets have been slashed, even in economic
>> boon. Everyone I know
>> is exhausted.
>> A friend of mine nearing 80 noted one of the most interesting
>> changes over even the
>> past 30 or 40 years is that hardly anyone has time to read the
>> newspaper anymore. He said
>> that even the most stressed out, overworked person would still have
>> time to read the
>> paper. No longer. Too much hustle.
>> Hustling at 36,000 feet on my way to a conference in Chicago,
>> David> Blatner
>> What might be your thoughts on this? --
>> Warmly, Adam
>>
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 06:44:21 EDT
> From: MKarp11444 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15
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> Hello,
> When is the actual date of Zerkas birthday in June. I have an idea
> it is the
> 17th. is that correct? Marcia Karp
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> Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:47:25 -0400
> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> June 14
> On May 9, 2007, at 6:44 AM, MKarp11444 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> When is the actual date of Zerkas birthday in June. I have an idea
>> it is the 17th. is that correct? Marcia Karp
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 11:23:48 -0400
> From: "Adam M. Barcroft" <amb1 at hughes.net>
> Subject: Re: Conference Thread
> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> I think I fall somewhere between Ed and Rebecca,
> on the continuum of a national conference on one end,
> and a regional conference on the other.
> I see the two as complementary, really.
> National conferences at the hotels I enjoy.
> I would love to participate also in student campus oriented
> conferences.
> I love the idea of having, from time to time, the conference in Miami
> for the weather, the beach, and the savings, and because it draws us
> (North America) sociometrically closer to South America, a hotbed for
> psychodrama.
> But not only Miami. I like the rotation of the conferences to
> different cities.
>
> As trying of my patience as the list-serve format is for me,
> I am finding this discussion informative, helpful, and valuable.
>
> Adam M. Barcroft
>
>
>
>
> On May 8, 2007, at 3:20 PM, list-request at grouptalkweb.org wrote:
>
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>> 1. Re: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop! (Adam Blatner)
>> 2. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15 (E L)
>> 3. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 14 (E L)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:32:23 -0500
>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
>> Subject: Re: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop!
>> To: "Tri-State Chapter" <tristatechapter at YAHOO.COM>
>> Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org, cca at cany.org
>> Message-ID: <058301c79196$d7451820$2e01a8c0 at desktop>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Please pass along my encouragement to Emily and/or Robert to write
>> up their approach to
>> dream work; note how it is similar to or different from
>> psychodramatic dream work; other
>> concepts; and submit this as a paper for the Journal of Group
>> Psychotherapy, Psychodrama &
>> Sociometry; or The Journal of Creativity in Counseling; or The
>> Arts in Psychotherapy
>> (journal).
>> Warmly, Adam
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tri-State Chapter" <tristatechapter at YAHOO.COM>
>> To: <DRAMATHERAPYLST at LISTSERV.KSU.EDU>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:11 PM
>> Subject: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop!
>>
>>
>> THE CENTER FOR CREATIVE ALTERNATIVES PRESENTS
>>
>> DREAMSTORIES: WORKING WITH DREAMS THROUGH GROUP PROCESS &
>> THERAPEUTIC DRAMATIZATION
>>
>> A Drama Therapy Workshop Co-Led by
>> Robert Landy, Ph.D., LCAT, RDT-BCT & Emily Nash, LCAT
>>
>>
>> A dream is a theatre in which the dreamer is him/herself the
>> scene, the player, the
>> prompter, the producer, the author, the public, and the critic.
>> ~C.G. Jung
>>
>> - How do our dreams reflect unfinished business in our waking
>> lives?
>> - In what ways can we be guided by the symbolic messages in our
>> dreams?
>> - How can we work with our dreams dramatically in order to make
>> sense of the dream and
>> the dreamer?
>> - How can we apply our own experiences with dreams to
>> professional work with clients?
>>
>> WORKSHOP: This workshop is about ways and means to work
>> therapeutically with dreams in
>> order to more fully make sense of our inner worlds. We begin with
>> Jung's premise that the
>> dream is a theatre, a stage upon which we unconsciously enact our
>> unfinished business. In
>> this workshop, we will attempt to make the unconscious conscious
>> through a process of
>> therapeutic dramatization informed by an interactive group process.
>> The workshop will be
>> both didactic and experiential as we work toward understanding how
>> the enactment of the
>> dream can help the dreamer live a more fully integrated life.
>>
>> FOR WHOM: Creative arts therapists, mental health practitioners,
>> theater artists and all
>> those who are interested in exploring the therapeutic component of
>> theatre.
>>
>> ALL PARTICIPANTS are asked to bring one dream with them. The
>> dream can be a recurring
>> dream, a key dream from the past, or a very recent dream. You may
>> bring either a fully
>> recalled dream or a fragment. If you do not recall a dream, we will
>> help you find one.
>>
>> WORKSHOP LEADERS:
>> Robert J. Landy, Ph.D., RDT/BCT, LCAT: Professor of Applied
>> Psychology and Educational
>> Theater and Director of the Drama Therapy Program at New York
>> University. He is a leading
>> pioneer in drama therapy internationally and has written several
>> books and numerous
>> articles in the field.
>>
>> Emily Nash, LCAT: Ms. Nash has been a leader in the field of
>> therapeutic theatre for
>> twenty-five years. She is the Artistic Director and Director of
>> Training and Supervision
>> at Creative Alternatives New York and has presented her work at
>> national and international
>> conferences, and published her work with traumatized youth. Ms.
>> Nash also has extensive
>> experience as a professional actress.
>>
>> LOCATION: Judson Memorial Church (Click HERE for map)
>> 239 Thompson Street, between West 3rd Street and Washington
>> Square South.
>>
>> TRANSPORTATION: A,C,E,B,D,F or V train to West 4th Street.
>>
>> FEE: $120 ($55 for students)
>>
>>
>> TO REGISTER PRINT OUR REGISTRATION FORM FROM http://cany.org/
>> CCA.htm.
>>
>> Contact: Meredith Dean 917.856.2473 cca at cany.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:14:02 -0700
>> From: "E L" <elindblom at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15
>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>> Message-ID:
>> <b89e47710705081214j624585f3oc038a59388172235 at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Re: I'm new!!!!!
>>
>> I am new to the list and wanted to introduce myself. I was invited
>> by Tom
>> Treadwell. I wanted to add to the wonderful things about Zerka. She
>> directed
>> me once about twenty years ago in a psychodramatic baby
>> psychodrama. She is
>> wonderful. She has such a light touch when directing and, at the
>> same time,
>> is very clear. You always know where she is. I love it.
>>
>> To introduce myself. I am trained for ten years or so by Don
>> Miller, Martin
>> and Chelly Haskell, Doug Warner and Alan Wickersty. I practiced,
>> then, for
>> six years as a psychodrama trainer for The State of Maryland with
>> Rene Clay
>> and Constantine Sackles where I was supervised by Doug Warner.
>> (Alan Blatner
>> asked me if I would not call myself a psychodramatist. That's fine
>> for now.)
>> I've been on a break since 1988 from psychodrama to do some
>> thinking about
>> it. Hey, it took a while!
>>
>> So now coming back, I am teaching Psychodrama at Harvard University
>> (h2o).
>> My intuitive sense is this shall be quite good.
>>
>> http://personas.bravehost.com/7.html
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/07, list-request at grouptalkweb.org <list-
>> request at grouptalkweb.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
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>>> 1. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>> 2. My work and business (BARNETT WEISS)
>>> 3. economic squeezes (Adam Blatner)
>>> 4. Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors (HV Psychodrama)
>>>
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:39:23 -0400
>>> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>> YEs, absolutely Zerka is THE best!!!!! I am truly blessed to live
>>> in Cville and see her and other psychodramatists who come to see her
>>> so often. I have NEVER EVER heard her say anything bad about
>>> another
>>> human being. She is totally accepting and filled with care for her.
>>> She has taught me how to be with my students, fully accepting and NO
>>> criticism. I believe it is due to Zerka even more than JL who has
>>> brought psychodrama to where we are now.
>>>
>>> I look forward to seeing you for the workshop in June at her house.
>>> I will not attend the workshop but a TSM student of mine will be
>>> here
>>> and we plan on making a THanksgiving dinner for you all on saturday
>>> night--to celebrate psychodrama family. I wish Zerka could come,
>>> but
>>> I know she will be tired after a day of teaching.
>>>
>>> Some of my Taiwan and Chinese students came for a workshop with
>>> her 2
>>> weekends ago and 2 international psychodramatists came last weekend
>>> and she did a masterful job at both. She is amazing!
>>>
>>> See you soon. Tele, Kate
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Kate,
>>>> Zerka Moreno is the best example in my life
>>>> and I say that honestly - this is about me and my life -
>>>> the best example (besides my own mother) for what
>>>> it means to include people at the table. That Zerka
>>>> has embraced and included me is a gift she has given
>>>> to how many hundreds of people, or thousands?
>>>>
>>>> What an absolute joy for me to meet Guy Taylor again
>>>> at the Conference. He was such an important part of my
>>>> learning about psychodramatic work and his teaching has
>>>> influenced me so profoundly in such positive ways.
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> thank you sweetie. I AM Glad to be home. I will go back to
>>>>> Taiwan and CHina from July to November to do TSM work so am truly
>>>>> and absolutely enjoying this time. I now have an apartment in
>>>>> Shanghai so that helps. Tele and love to you, kate
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 1:57 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Kate
>>>>>> I love what you are suggesting...welcome home.
>>>>>> I have missed you
>>>>>> Rosalie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See what's free at AOL.com.
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>>>>>
>>>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>>>>
>>>>> Clinical Psychologist
>>>>> Director of Training
>>>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>>>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>>>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 06:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
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>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>> To: grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 4:46:21 AM
>>> Subject:
>>>
>>>
>>> One of the best things about this discussion is how many people are
>>> actually commenting. It is good to know there are so many folks
>>> out there in
>>> grouptalk land.
>>> Rebecca
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:59:13 -0500
>>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
>>> Subject: economic squeezes
>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> Re economic stresses in our times: I would suggest that there
>>> is a
>>> state we might
>>> call "hustling" that operates between prosperity and
>>> demoralization. In
>>> prosperity, there
>>> is surplus time/energy to build the society, and the sub-
>>> societies. The
>>> decline of
>>> civilizations comes with a general sense of economic and social
>>> decay, and
>>> I'm beginning
>>> to think about that.
>>> There are developed countries, and under-developed countries.
>>> I've
>>> heard about decay,
>>> but haven't been faced with it. I heard about the Great Depression
>>> of the
>>> 1930s, but it
>>> was over before the morale of the culture could drop.
>>> Decay may be more gradual, involving a longer period of
>>> "squeezing"
>>> the middle
>>> class. I think that's what is going on, more dramatically in Russia,
>>> perhaps, but also in
>>> the USA. People are hustling, busy, feeling stressed, and every
>>> encouragement for giving a
>>> bit---who has anything left over to give?
>>> Trillions of dollars are being spent on armaments and the
>>> support
>>> systems,
>>> salaries, oil, etc. for Iraq. Down the tubes. That money leaves
>>> everyone
>>> correspondingly
>>> drained. No money left for this and that.
>>> At work, equally tight. No money for psychiatric
>>> treatment, or at
>>> least, it's
>>> rationed, so the treatment becomes hurried.
>>> Management competence is measured in terms of how many
>>> corners you
>>> can cut and still
>>> fool others and yourself that you haven't cut quality. but of
>>> course you
>>> have.
>>> I think this mid-level of decay, hustling, can go on for
>>> years. People
>>> can still
>>> think of themselves as reasonably prosperous, and the advertisers
>>> and
>>> media support this
>>> image. Yet they aren't, they need to keep busier to keep up.
>>> I think decay can lead to its own sub-type or component of
>>> demoralization, a
>>> hardening, all rationalized. No time, no time. Those other things,
>>> hospitality,
>>> reciprocity, answering emails... not important.
>>> If decay continues, it leads to depression, demoralization,
>>> helplessness, giving
>>> up. The boundaries may be fuzzy. Perhaps it leads more to
>>> desperateness
>>> and the
>>> rationalization of immorality, crime, fudging the ethics.
>>> In the hustling stage, there is also increased entitlement. Why
>>> can't I
>>> get some too?
>>> If some get if free, why can't everything be free. It's my right.
>>> (what,
>>> after all , is a
>>> "right" but a social agreement?)
>>> (My son has been surprised at the emails he receives:
>>> He's
>>> developed programs
>>> for teaching people how to get the most out of programs---in his
>>> field of
>>> desktop
>>> publishing, he's considered a major figure, an expert. But people
>>> seem to
>>> resent the not-excessive cost of his instructional programs. Most
>>> interesting.)
>>> Indeed, my son read the above and wrote: I think you're quite
>>> right.
>>> There has been
>>> a radical change in how we function. Most of my colleagues simply
>>> expect
>>> to work 2 or 3
>>> people's jobs. Many people I know in management positions are now
>>> forced
>>> to fly economy
>>> class at all times, including frequent trips to Asia, Europe,
>>> etc., then
>>> just sigh and say
>>> what can be done, as the budgets have been slashed, even in
>>> economic boon.
>>> Everyone I know
>>> is exhausted.
>>> A friend of mine nearing 80 noted one of the most interesting
>>> changes
>>> over even the
>>> past 30 or 40 years is that hardly anyone has time to read the
>>> newspaper
>>> anymore. He said
>>> that even the most stressed out, overworked person would still
>>> have time
>>> to read the
>>> paper. No longer. Too much hustle.
>>> Hustling at 36,000 feet on my way to a conference in Chicago,
>>> David>
>>> Blatner
>>> What might be your thoughts on this? --
>>> Warmly,
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:08:30 -0400
>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>> Subject: Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors
>>> To: "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>> Message-ID: <029201c79182$bd5e2c30$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
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>>>
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>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:20:27 -0700
>> From: "E L" <elindblom at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 14
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>> Hi all
>>
>> I am new to the list. I wanted to remark about the Poconos. It
>> could be that
>> I am the only one who loved it. I met Rene there for the second time!
>> (Marineau). I realized that he was, indeed, the reincarnation of
>> Moreno.
>> (Aren't we all? It's an I-God thing.)
>>
>> So, anyway, we can't go to the Poconos anymore. I understand. (I
>> loved it
>> anyway.)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On 5/8/07, list-request at grouptalkweb.org <list-
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>>> Today's Topics:
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>>> 1. RE: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (thana ag)
>>> 2. (HV Psychodrama)
>>> 3. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10 (Dr Kate Hudgins)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 04:20:16 +0000
>>> From: "thana ag" <anathga at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>> Dale,
>>>
>>> What excellent points you make!!!
>>>
>>> I actually remember well that conference in Poconos --and how
>>> disappointing
>>> it was.
>>>
>>> Is it possible that folks who are interested in Psychodrama -are
>>> also
>>> interested in theather,and art -and therefore would shell a bit
>>> more money
>>> to be in S.F or NYC.? It is quite possible that if ASGPP meeting
>>> was in
>>> Manhattan ,rather than in Bklyn -the attendance would've been a
>>> larger .
>>> There are some affordable hotels on the Upper West Side,including
>>> hostels..
>>> -and the commute to theater and museums is only minutes...
>>> anath garber
>>>
>>>> From: Dale Richard Buchanan <dalerichardbuchanan at yahoo.com>
>>>> Reply-To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>> Subject: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
>>>> Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:53:10 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I have been concerned about some of the postings
>>>> regarding the costs of the annual meeting. I think
>>>> before we create a new conserve we should carefully
>>>> review where we have been, where we want to go, and
>>>> the consequences, anticipated and unintended, of the
>>>> new conserve.
>>>>
>>>> We must all take one step back and breathe. One of
>>>> the reasons why I believe that we have such confusion
>>>> and dissension about the annual meeting is that we
>>>> have not all agreed to the benchmarks that would
>>>> signify success for the annual meeting. Some of the
>>>> benchmarks that I have proposed in the past are the
>>>> following: Net Income (income from the annual meeting
>>>> minus all annual meetings expenses), number of total
>>>> attenders, and number of first time attenders. Now,
>>>> if we had that information, over time, we could track
>>>> whether or not the annual meeting was a success. We
>>>> could also do a graph of these with another item such
>>>> as hotel room cost that would give us a better idea of
>>>> the correlation of the room expense with the
>>>> benchmarks. I know I could get us a very good deal at
>>>> a summer camp in North Dakota, but don't think the
>>>> attendance would be very good even if it was very
>>>> cheap (smile).
>>>>
>>>> To my understanding the Miami Annual meeting was one
>>>> of the least expensive in many a year. Airfare into
>>>> and from Miami or Ft. Lauderdale are among the lowest
>>>> in the country. I just paid $149 for a roundtrip
>>>> airfare from DC to Miami. AIrfares from the Coast
>>>> seldom exceed $300 versus the $440 I just paid for
>>>> roundtrip to Seattlle. The hotel costs in Miami were
>>>> among the lowest ever with a cost of just $109. The
>>>> Chairs (Mary Bellofatto, Nancy Kirsener & Sue McMunn)
>>>> also made arrangements for room sharing with up to
>>>> four persons in a room.
>>>> Thanks to the Chairs frugal spending the conference
>>>> made a lot of money but the attendance was very low --
>>>> about two hundred below San Francisco which was much
>>>> more expensive, and about 150 below this year's
>>>> conference which was also expensive.
>>>>
>>>> Beware of unintended consequences! When Zerka was
>>>> President, and I was her Vice-President we listened to
>>>> the membership nd they wanted a less expensive annual
>>>> meeting. We tried an experiment by going to the
>>>> Poconos at a retreat center. We did everything that
>>>> was asked: leisure time to connect with others, good
>>>> inexpensive food in family style dining, inexpensive
>>>> lodging, recreational facilities to enjoy, etc. Well,
>>>> in the Poconos we have about 1/4 the attendance of the
>>>> New York Conference. The worst was that while we had
>>>> met or exceeded all the above expectations most said
>>>> they would never go to this type of annual meeting
>>>> again. Why, because they were upset that they were
>>>> not able to offer a workshop. Due to space
>>>> limitations we only had three or four workshops in
>>>> each time slot and we limited, at the suggestion of
>>>> the members, the number of sessions per day to so that
>>>> people could meet informally. Thus, this
>>>> disgruntlement over not presenting was a large
>>>> unintended consequence that was not anticipated.
>>>>
>>>> After this I discovered that usually about 40% of the
>>>> meeting attenders are conducting workshops. When we
>>>> limit the number of presenters then a large part of
>>>> the membership is unhappy and does not attend.
>>>> Trainers from all over the country bring their
>>>> students and want to be recognized for their training
>>>> skills and they want their trainees to see their names
>>>> on the annual program.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know the answers to people's concerns about
>>>> expenses, but I do know that we must first agree on
>>>> what equals success for the annual meeting. If we met
>>>> in a retreat center with 200 attenders when we had 465
>>>> in San Francisco and 391 in Brooklyn would the retreat
>>>> be a success. I also think that in many ways the
>>>> "expense" of the conference is a scapegoat for many
>>>> others concerns that we have for the annual meeting.
>>>>
>>>> I am excited about this discussion and hope that you
>>>> realize that no matter what we say or do on grouptalk
>>>> it is the leadership of the ASGPP that will make all
>>>> final decisions.
>>>>
>>>> Peace, Dale Richard Buchanan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 04:46:21 -0400
>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>> To: "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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>>> One of the best things about this discussion is how many people are
>>> actually commenting. It is good to know there are so many folks
>>> out there in
>>> grouptalk land.
>>> Rebecca
>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
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>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:28:55 -0400
>>> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
>>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10
>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>> Great Adam that you are engaging.
>>>
>>> I have found for myself that it has been through psychology and
>>> psychotherapy conferences around the world that I have gotten TSM
>>> accepted and promoted. In AUgust last year I was one of the plenary
>>> speakers at the World COngress on Psychotherapy in Malaysia and will
>>> again be a keynote speaker when it meets in Japan next year (already
>>> invited, arranged and will be paid to do so).
>>>
>>> Michael Weiser of Austria and Kiyoshi Takara of Japan came to my
>>> house following the conference to visit with Zerka and make plans
>>> with me for Japan. They are both clinical psychologists like I am.
>>>
>>> I told them how I anchor TSM not just in psychodrama but in the
>>> very large body of research of experiential psychotherapy (look up
>>> Les Greenberg and Robert Elliott) as well as van der Kolk's
>>> neurobiology on trauma. This is what needs to happen. Psychodrama
>>> needs to be brought into the mainstream. I have presented at ISTSS,
>>> SPR, IADES, and many other psychology conferences here and abroad.
>>> This is how TSM has become so widespread. We also need to
>>> connect to
>>> the drama therapy community that has a good academic presentation.
>>>
>>> I will be conducting a research project in China next year at a
>>> minimum of 4 universities and maybe up to 8. Currently Dr Lai in
>>> Taiwan is doing a pilot study on a 12 week TSM group for women who
>>> have experienced domestic violence. We will take the protocol
>>> and do
>>> it in CHina January 08 with adolescents and young people that are
>>> addicted to the internet, funded by the government! All of my
>>> connections in Taiwan and China have been with psychologists
>>> sponsoring my work. It has worked and we will continue to progress
>>> psychodrama in Asia though these channels.
>>>
>>> I have also connected with business people who are excited to market
>>> Action Solutions, our business applications of TSM> My husband
>>> and I
>>> will be conducting the first psychodrama workshop for people that
>>> are
>>> signed up for internet dating/matching in July. The conference in
>>> Suzhou that Gong Shu is organizing will be bringing several Western
>>> psychodramatists to China. I think psychodrama will soon be loved by
>>> many in CHina.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am getting about 4-5 requests a month about TSM
>>> training
>>> in USA becaues it is now mentioned in Corsini's chapter on group
>>> psychotherapy that is the text for most graduate programs and 3
>>> chapters are being published on it during the 1st few months of this
>>> year through drama therapy channels and a book on Advanced Theories
>>> of Psychodrama in Europe.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps others. Kate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Adam M. Barcroft wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ed,
>>>> I was at that ASGPP Journal meeting also,
>>>> and I remember when Tian said, three different times during the
>>>> meeting,
>>>> "The Circle is Broken here. We need to heal the broken circle."
>>>> From across the room, each time I heard her say this,
>>>> I felt large shock waves moving through my body.
>>>> Needless to say, I was more than a little surprised to be feeling
>>>> each of these shocks,
>>>> blasting through me.
>>>>
>>>> After the meeting, as I walked around finding my next workshop's
>>>> room,
>>>> I experienced a catharsis of integration about
>>>> Tian's message, and the solution.
>>>> I saw Tian moments later in the hallway,
>>>> I walked over to her and said, excitedly,
>>>> "Tian! I have to tell you that I just figured out how we
>>>> heal the broken circle!" I paused, then said,
>>>> "The ENCOUNTER heals the broken circle!"
>>>> And as the master teacher and student that she is,
>>>> her eyes lit up with recognition, and gratitude. A hug,
>>>> and then she was off to the next room too.
>>>>
>>>> This is, as Ed has already stated,
>>>> what was set in motion during our Journal meeting:
>>>> an encounter among representatives of the ASGPP Journal,
>>>> (with me in the role of student-interested-in-publishing
>>>> in various written formats and also research articles),
>>>> who communicated and clarified honestly and openly,
>>>> with full inclusion.
>>>> The Encounter heals the broken circle.
>>>> Meet my new mantra.
>>>> The entire experience was quite moving for me,
>>>> and plants a seed of understanding in my thinking about
>>>> the foundations of the Morenean Arts and Sciences.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Ed for reminding me of the epiphany I had,
>>>> so that I could share my response with you and others.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I am enjoying (watching) the discussions since the
>>>> conference,
>>>> and I am very impressed by how thoughtfully, intelligently,
>>>> candidly
>>>> and respectfully
>>>> our membership is taking the "Future Conferences" discussion.
>>>> What Kim Cox is saying I have been feeling for years now,
>>>> to present psychodrama at other conference venues,
>>>> and I've always justified not going to other national conferences
>>>> because of issues with time & money.
>>>> You can be sure Kim that I won't be making that error any longer.
>>>> I am committed to making presentations at other venues,
>>>> such as the Networker Conference next March.
>>>> Are there new conference postings and announcements that the ASGPP
>>>> sends out regularly,
>>>> having to do with ongoing conferences held by any organization
>>>> where
>>>> we might consider presenting? Or could there be an ASGPP website
>>>> forum for posting announcements about upcoming national and
>>>> international conferences?
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion what Steve Gordon, Kim Cox, and others are saying
>>>> is very helpful input.
>>>> It is good to see such creativity flowing,
>>>> boldly and directly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam M. Barcroft
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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