ASGPP Forum (Re) Invitation
CGayle
cgayle at zipcon.com
Wed May 9 14:27:45 CDT 2007
RE: registering on forum. I just found out:
Anyone in world can join.
For ASGPP members, don't use your username and password for the membership
directory. You create a new username and password by hitting "register"
once clicked into "forum" from asgpp.org web site.
Cynthia Gayle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam M. Barcroft" <amb1 at hughes.net>
To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: ASGPP Forum (Re) Invitation
> The ASGPP Forum is a great place to have many topics and sub topics,
> great for those of us craving more organization to the grouptalk
> discussions. I will keep checking in with Grouptalk; I ask that
> others make an effort to visit the Forum and comment more regularly.
> We could make it "Student Loungy," put up some catchy folders and
> make poetry and expressive art there and be more, like, salon-y?
>
> Seriously though, the ASGPP has a well designed Forum,
> and I find it easy to use.
> The ASGPP Forum is a marketplace of groups talking about many things
> at once,
> a kind of online symposium,
> with many simultaneous discussion areas.
> I am proud to be the first to be saying it,
> that the Forum site is a complement to group-talk and to the ASGPP!
> Personally I am enjoying having a space to post haikus, poems, etc..
> Professionally I am glad to contribute what I can.
>
> There is a Sociatry folder on the ASGPP Forum frontpage,
> and again I invite others to post ideas there,
> and to begin creating topic threads for discussion.
> A global discussion there would be ideal.
>
> Keep trying Ed. I appreciate your efforts to join the ASGPP Forum!
>
> Don't let the automatons get you down,
>
>
> Adam M. Barcroft
>
>
>
>
> On May 9, 2007, at 1:00 PM, list-request at grouptalkweb.org wrote:
>
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> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: Conference Thread (Edward Schreiber)
> > 2. Combine Your Love of Theater and the Expressive Arts!!
> > (SaphiraL at aol.com)
> > 3. Re: economic squeezes (Adam Blatner)
> > 4. Colleagues - Please Edit Listserve Better! (ABE Psychodrama)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 11:27:48 -0400
> > From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: Conference Thread
> > To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> > Message-ID: <AE3714CE-49C0-45E8-AB40-7B570EFC0A6F at earthlink.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
> >
> > Grouptalk is easy for the techno-challenged like myself; the ASGPP
> > Forum is
> > still a learning curve!
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 9, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Adam M. Barcroft wrote:
> >
> >> I think I fall somewhere between Ed and Rebecca,
> >> on the continuum of a national conference on one end,
> >> and a regional conference on the other.
> >> I see the two as complementary, really.
> >> National conferences at the hotels I enjoy.
> >> I would love to participate also in student campus oriented
> >> conferences.
> >> I love the idea of having, from time to time, the conference in Miami
> >> for the weather, the beach, and the savings, and because it draws us
> >> (North America) sociometrically closer to South America, a hotbed for
> >> psychodrama.
> >> But not only Miami. I like the rotation of the conferences to
> >> different cities.
> >>
> >> As trying of my patience as the list-serve format is for me,
> >> I am finding this discussion informative, helpful, and valuable.
> >>
> >> Adam M. Barcroft
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 8, 2007, at 3:20 PM, list-request at grouptalkweb.org wrote:
> >>
> >>> Send List mailing list submissions to
> >>> list at grouptalkweb.org
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Today's Topics:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Re: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop! (Adam Blatner)
> >>> 2. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15 (E L)
> >>> 3. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 14 (E L)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> -
> >>> -
> >>>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:32:23 -0500
> >>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop!
> >>> To: "Tri-State Chapter" <tristatechapter at YAHOO.COM>
> >>> Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org, cca at cany.org
> >>> Message-ID: <058301c79196$d7451820$2e01a8c0 at desktop>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >>> reply-type=original
> >>>
> >>> Please pass along my encouragement to Emily and/or Robert to write
> >>> up their approach to
> >>> dream work; note how it is similar to or different from
> >>> psychodramatic dream work; other
> >>> concepts; and submit this as a paper for the Journal of Group
> >>> Psychotherapy, Psychodrama &
> >>> Sociometry; or The Journal of Creativity in Counseling; or The
> >>> Arts in Psychotherapy
> >>> (journal).
> >>> Warmly, Adam
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Tri-State Chapter" <tristatechapter at YAHOO.COM>
> >>> To: <DRAMATHERAPYLST at LISTSERV.KSU.EDU>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:11 PM
> >>> Subject: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> THE CENTER FOR CREATIVE ALTERNATIVES PRESENTS
> >>>
> >>> DREAMSTORIES: WORKING WITH DREAMS THROUGH GROUP PROCESS &
> >>> THERAPEUTIC DRAMATIZATION
> >>>
> >>> A Drama Therapy Workshop Co-Led by
> >>> Robert Landy, Ph.D., LCAT, RDT-BCT & Emily Nash, LCAT
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A dream is a theatre in which the dreamer is him/herself the
> >>> scene, the player, the
> >>> prompter, the producer, the author, the public, and the critic.
> >>> ~C.G. Jung
> >>>
> >>> - How do our dreams reflect unfinished business in our waking
> >>> lives?
> >>> - In what ways can we be guided by the symbolic messages in our
> >>> dreams?
> >>> - How can we work with our dreams dramatically in order to make
> >>> sense of the dream and
> >>> the dreamer?
> >>> - How can we apply our own experiences with dreams to
> >>> professional work with clients?
> >>>
> >>> WORKSHOP: This workshop is about ways and means to work
> >>> therapeutically with dreams in
> >>> order to more fully make sense of our inner worlds. We begin with
> >>> Jung's premise that the
> >>> dream is a theatre, a stage upon which we unconsciously enact our
> >>> unfinished business. In
> >>> this workshop, we will attempt to make the unconscious conscious
> >>> through a process of
> >>> therapeutic dramatization informed by an interactive group process.
> >>> The workshop will be
> >>> both didactic and experiential as we work toward understanding how
> >>> the enactment of the
> >>> dream can help the dreamer live a more fully integrated life.
> >>>
> >>> FOR WHOM: Creative arts therapists, mental health practitioners,
> >>> theater artists and all
> >>> those who are interested in exploring the therapeutic component of
> >>> theatre.
> >>>
> >>> ALL PARTICIPANTS are asked to bring one dream with them. The
> >>> dream can be a recurring
> >>> dream, a key dream from the past, or a very recent dream. You may
> >>> bring either a fully
> >>> recalled dream or a fragment. If you do not recall a dream, we will
> >>> help you find one.
> >>>
> >>> WORKSHOP LEADERS:
> >>> Robert J. Landy, Ph.D., RDT/BCT, LCAT: Professor of Applied
> >>> Psychology and Educational
> >>> Theater and Director of the Drama Therapy Program at New York
> >>> University. He is a leading
> >>> pioneer in drama therapy internationally and has written several
> >>> books and numerous
> >>> articles in the field.
> >>>
> >>> Emily Nash, LCAT: Ms. Nash has been a leader in the field of
> >>> therapeutic theatre for
> >>> twenty-five years. She is the Artistic Director and Director of
> >>> Training and Supervision
> >>> at Creative Alternatives New York and has presented her work at
> >>> national and international
> >>> conferences, and published her work with traumatized youth. Ms.
> >>> Nash also has extensive
> >>> experience as a professional actress.
> >>>
> >>> LOCATION: Judson Memorial Church (Click HERE for map)
> >>> 239 Thompson Street, between West 3rd Street and Washington
> >>> Square South.
> >>>
> >>> TRANSPORTATION: A,C,E,B,D,F or V train to West 4th Street.
> >>>
> >>> FEE: $120 ($55 for students)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TO REGISTER PRINT OUR REGISTRATION FORM FROM http://cany.org/
> >>> CCA.htm.
> >>>
> >>> Contact: Meredith Dean 917.856.2473 cca at cany.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:14:02 -0700
> >>> From: "E L" <elindblom at gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15
> >>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> <b89e47710705081214j624585f3oc038a59388172235 at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>
> >>> Hi all
> >>>
> >>> Re: I'm new!!!!!
> >>>
> >>> I am new to the list and wanted to introduce myself. I was invited
> >>> by Tom
> >>> Treadwell. I wanted to add to the wonderful things about Zerka. She
> >>> directed
> >>> me once about twenty years ago in a psychodramatic baby
> >>> psychodrama. She is
> >>> wonderful. She has such a light touch when directing and, at the
> >>> same time,
> >>> is very clear. You always know where she is. I love it.
> >>>
> >>> To introduce myself. I am trained for ten years or so by Don
> >>> Miller, Martin
> >>> and Chelly Haskell, Doug Warner and Alan Wickersty. I practiced,
> >>> then, for
> >>> six years as a psychodrama trainer for The State of Maryland with
> >>> Rene Clay
> >>> and Constantine Sackles where I was supervised by Doug Warner.
> >>> (Alan Blatner
> >>> asked me if I would not call myself a psychodramatist. That's fine
> >>> for now.)
> >>> I've been on a break since 1988 from psychodrama to do some
> >>> thinking about
> >>> it. Hey, it took a while!
> >>>
> >>> So now coming back, I am teaching Psychodrama at Harvard University
> >>> (h2o).
> >>> My intuitive sense is this shall be quite good.
> >>>
> >>> http://personas.bravehost.com/7.html
> >>>
> >>> Eric
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/8/07, list-request at grouptalkweb.org <list-
> >>> request at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Send List mailing list submissions to
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> >>>> than "Re: Contents of List digest..."
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Today's Topics:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> >>>> 2. My work and business (BARNETT WEISS)
> >>>> 3. economic squeezes (Adam Blatner)
> >>>> 4. Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors (HV Psychodrama)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> -
> >>>> -
> >>>> -
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 1
> >>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:39:23 -0400
> >>>> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
> >>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>> Message-ID: <61050C38-115B-4550-B74A-98EBF325F8EF at mac.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>>
> >>>> YEs, absolutely Zerka is THE best!!!!! I am truly blessed to live
> >>>> in Cville and see her and other psychodramatists who come to see
> >>>> her
> >>>> so often. I have NEVER EVER heard her say anything bad about
> >>>> another
> >>>> human being. She is totally accepting and filled with care for
> >>>> her.
> >>>> She has taught me how to be with my students, fully accepting
> >>>> and NO
> >>>> criticism. I believe it is due to Zerka even more than JL who has
> >>>> brought psychodrama to where we are now.
> >>>>
> >>>> I look forward to seeing you for the workshop in June at her house.
> >>>> I will not attend the workshop but a TSM student of mine will be
> >>>> here
> >>>> and we plan on making a THanksgiving dinner for you all on saturday
> >>>> night--to celebrate psychodrama family. I wish Zerka could come,
> >>>> but
> >>>> I know she will be tired after a day of teaching.
> >>>>
> >>>> Some of my Taiwan and Chinese students came for a workshop with
> >>>> her 2
> >>>> weekends ago and 2 international psychodramatists came last weekend
> >>>> and she did a masterful job at both. She is amazing!
> >>>>
> >>>> See you soon. Tele, Kate
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 7, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Kate,
> >>>>> Zerka Moreno is the best example in my life
> >>>>> and I say that honestly - this is about me and my life -
> >>>>> the best example (besides my own mother) for what
> >>>>> it means to include people at the table. That Zerka
> >>>>> has embraced and included me is a gift she has given
> >>>>> to how many hundreds of people, or thousands?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What an absolute joy for me to meet Guy Taylor again
> >>>>> at the Conference. He was such an important part of my
> >>>>> learning about psychodramatic work and his teaching has
> >>>>> influenced me so profoundly in such positive ways.
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ed
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> thank you sweetie. I AM Glad to be home. I will go back to
> >>>>>> Taiwan and CHina from July to November to do TSM work so am truly
> >>>>>> and absolutely enjoying this time. I now have an apartment in
> >>>>>> Shanghai so that helps. Tele and love to you, kate
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 1:57 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks Kate
> >>>>>>> I love what you are suggesting...welcome home.
> >>>>>>> I have missed you
> >>>>>>> Rosalie
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> See what's free at AOL.com.
> >>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Clinical Psychologist
> >>>>>> Director of Training
> >>>>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
> >>>>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
> >>>>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>
> >>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
> >>>>
> >>>> Clinical Psychologist
> >>>> Director of Training
> >>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
> >>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
> >>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 2
> >>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 06:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>> From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>
> >>>> Subject: My work and business
> >>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>> Message-ID: <604498.6123.qm at web84104.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear People:
> >>>> Please call or write me back channel to my individual e-mail
> >>>> address about
> >>>> the Entertainment/Educational digital business I have entered into
> >>>> which can
> >>>> support all of the work we are doing here in the US and opening in
> >>>> England,
> >>>> Canada, Australia and parts of Asia in less than 45 days. It will
> >>>> then be
> >>>> opening in over 100 countries in the next 3 years. We can move
> >>>> our books,
> >>>> CDs, DVD's, everything that can be digitalized into their library
> >>>> for sale
> >>>> to the millions who willl be receiving the ability even for free
> >>>> to have a
> >>>> site from which they can advertise and sell these materials at
> >>>> tremendous
> >>>> financial and publicity benefit to us and them for the spread of
> >>>> the
> >>>> information. There has never been anything like this in the
> >>>> history of
> >>>> entertainment publishing or marketing. It is truly of by and for
> >>>> the
> >>>> people. Blessings, Bud
> >>>>
> >>>> Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW
> >>>> 7410 Ridge Blvd 2D
> >>>> Brooklyn, NY 11209
> >>>> E-Mail: Budweiss at verizon.net
> >>>> Cell (917)-751-3395
> >>>> web page: WWW.BURNLOUNGE.COM/BUDSLOUNGE
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> From: HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> >>>> To: grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 4:46:21 AM
> >>>> Subject:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> One of the best things about this discussion is how many people are
> >>>> actually commenting. It is good to know there are so many folks
> >>>> out there in
> >>>> grouptalk land.
> >>>> Rebecca
> >>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
> >>>> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
> >>>> (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
> >>>> visit us at our website: www.hvpi.net
> >>>> Grouptalk mailing list
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> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 3
> >>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:59:13 -0500
> >>>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> >>>> Subject: economic squeezes
> >>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>> Message-ID: <053001c79181$71233550$2e01a8c0 at desktop>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >>>> reply-type=original
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear All,
> >>>> Re economic stresses in our times: I would suggest that there
> >>>> is a
> >>>> state we might
> >>>> call "hustling" that operates between prosperity and
> >>>> demoralization. In
> >>>> prosperity, there
> >>>> is surplus time/energy to build the society, and the sub-
> >>>> societies. The
> >>>> decline of
> >>>> civilizations comes with a general sense of economic and social
> >>>> decay, and
> >>>> I'm beginning
> >>>> to think about that.
> >>>> There are developed countries, and under-developed countries.
> >>>> I've
> >>>> heard about decay,
> >>>> but haven't been faced with it. I heard about the Great Depression
> >>>> of the
> >>>> 1930s, but it
> >>>> was over before the morale of the culture could drop.
> >>>> Decay may be more gradual, involving a longer period of
> >>>> "squeezing"
> >>>> the middle
> >>>> class. I think that's what is going on, more dramatically in
> >>>> Russia,
> >>>> perhaps, but also in
> >>>> the USA. People are hustling, busy, feeling stressed, and every
> >>>> encouragement for giving a
> >>>> bit---who has anything left over to give?
> >>>> Trillions of dollars are being spent on armaments and the
> >>>> support
> >>>> systems,
> >>>> salaries, oil, etc. for Iraq. Down the tubes. That money leaves
> >>>> everyone
> >>>> correspondingly
> >>>> drained. No money left for this and that.
> >>>> At work, equally tight. No money for psychiatric
> >>>> treatment, or at
> >>>> least, it's
> >>>> rationed, so the treatment becomes hurried.
> >>>> Management competence is measured in terms of how many
> >>>> corners you
> >>>> can cut and still
> >>>> fool others and yourself that you haven't cut quality. but of
> >>>> course you
> >>>> have.
> >>>> I think this mid-level of decay, hustling, can go on for
> >>>> years. People
> >>>> can still
> >>>> think of themselves as reasonably prosperous, and the advertisers
> >>>> and
> >>>> media support this
> >>>> image. Yet they aren't, they need to keep busier to keep up.
> >>>> I think decay can lead to its own sub-type or component of
> >>>> demoralization, a
> >>>> hardening, all rationalized. No time, no time. Those other things,
> >>>> hospitality,
> >>>> reciprocity, answering emails... not important.
> >>>> If decay continues, it leads to depression, demoralization,
> >>>> helplessness, giving
> >>>> up. The boundaries may be fuzzy. Perhaps it leads more to
> >>>> desperateness
> >>>> and the
> >>>> rationalization of immorality, crime, fudging the ethics.
> >>>> In the hustling stage, there is also increased entitlement. Why
> >>>> can't I
> >>>> get some too?
> >>>> If some get if free, why can't everything be free. It's my right.
> >>>> (what,
> >>>> after all , is a
> >>>> "right" but a social agreement?)
> >>>> (My son has been surprised at the emails he receives:
> >>>> He's
> >>>> developed programs
> >>>> for teaching people how to get the most out of programs---in his
> >>>> field of
> >>>> desktop
> >>>> publishing, he's considered a major figure, an expert. But people
> >>>> seem to
> >>>> resent the not-excessive cost of his instructional programs. Most
> >>>> interesting.)
> >>>> Indeed, my son read the above and wrote: I think you're quite
> >>>> right.
> >>>> There has been
> >>>> a radical change in how we function. Most of my colleagues simply
> >>>> expect
> >>>> to work 2 or 3
> >>>> people's jobs. Many people I know in management positions are now
> >>>> forced
> >>>> to fly economy
> >>>> class at all times, including frequent trips to Asia, Europe,
> >>>> etc., then
> >>>> just sigh and say
> >>>> what can be done, as the budgets have been slashed, even in
> >>>> economic boon.
> >>>> Everyone I know
> >>>> is exhausted.
> >>>> A friend of mine nearing 80 noted one of the most interesting
> >>>> changes
> >>>> over even the
> >>>> past 30 or 40 years is that hardly anyone has time to read the
> >>>> newspaper
> >>>> anymore. He said
> >>>> that even the most stressed out, overworked person would still
> >>>> have time
> >>>> to read the
> >>>> paper. No longer. Too much hustle.
> >>>> Hustling at 36,000 feet on my way to a conference in Chicago,
> >>>> David>
> >>>> Blatner
> >>>> What might be your thoughts on this? --
> >>>> Warmly,
> >>>> Adam
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 4
> >>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:08:30 -0400
> >>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> >>>> Subject: Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors
> >>>> To: "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>> Message-ID: <029201c79182$bd5e2c30$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute New Paltz, NY www.hvpi.net
> >>>> hvpi at hvc.rr.com
> >>>>
> >>>> Early Registration discount if REGISTRATION AND FEE ARE POSTMARKED
> >>>> BY May
> >>>> 15, 2007!
> >>>>
> >>>> Discounts also available when two or more people from a single
> >>>> agency or
> >>>> program register. Contact us for information.
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> >>>>
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> >>>> requirements for
> >>>> the National Registry of Group Psychotherapists as well as 14
> >>>> hours towards
> >>>> certification by the American Board of Examiners in Psychodrama
> >>>> and Group
> >>>> Psychotherapy.
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Trainer Bio
> >>>>
> >>>> Bill Coleman, LMSW, TEP, is the co director of LA JORNADA
> >>>> INSTITUTE which
> >>>> offers professional training in psychodrama, sociometry and group
> >>>> psychotherapy to mental health and substance abuse counselors in
> >>>> both Tucson
> >>>> and New Mexico. Bill is currently on the staff of Sierra Tucson
> >>>> where he
> >>>> works as a Trauma Therapist. Before moving to the Southwest, Bill
> >>>> was a
> >>>> staff psychodramatist for at Four Winds Psychiatric Hospital,
> >>>> Westchester
> >>>> County, NY where he worked with adolescents and adults, including
> >>>> running
> >>>> groups with the dually diagnosed MICA population. He also
> >>>> developed and ran
> >>>> the psychodrama program at Freedom Institute, an outpatient
> >>>> substance abuse
> >>>> facility in New York City. Bill created and taught the HVPI
> >>>> "Psychodrama
> >>>> with the Chemically Dependent" curriculum for Daytop Village. Bill
> >>>> has been
> >>>> a frequent presenter at the Hudson Valley Chapter of the American
> >>>> Society
> >>>> for Group Psychotherapy and Psychodrama monthly meetings as well as
> >>>> presenting at the yearly meetings of the American Society for Group
> >>>> Psychotherapy and Psychodrama and at the national conference of
> >>>> the American
> >>>> Society of Group Psychotherapy.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
> >>>> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
> >>>> (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
> >>>> visit us at our website: www.hvpi.net
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> >>> Message: 3
> >>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:20:27 -0700
> >>> From: "E L" <elindblom at gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 14
> >>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> >>> <b89e47710705081220j3a8c45eej6cd64d5098b9dfac at mail.gmail.com>
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> >>> Hi all
> >>>
> >>> I am new to the list. I wanted to remark about the Poconos. It
> >>> could be that
> >>> I am the only one who loved it. I met Rene there for the second
> >>> time!
> >>> (Marineau). I realized that he was, indeed, the reincarnation of
> >>> Moreno.
> >>> (Aren't we all? It's an I-God thing.)
> >>>
> >>> So, anyway, we can't go to the Poconos anymore. I understand. (I
> >>> loved it
> >>> anyway.)
> >>>
> >>> Eric
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/8/07, list-request at grouptalkweb.org <list-
> >>> request at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>> wrote:
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> >>>> Today's Topics:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. RE: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (thana ag)
> >>>> 2. (HV Psychodrama)
> >>>> 3. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10 (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> >>>>
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> >>>> Message: 1
> >>>> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 04:20:16 +0000
> >>>> From: "thana ag" <anathga at hotmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: RE: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
> >>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>> Message-ID: <BAY106-F26A2F9E9F42B94BC48650ABB440 at phx.gbl>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> >>>>
> >>>> Dale,
> >>>>
> >>>> What excellent points you make!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> I actually remember well that conference in Poconos --and how
> >>>> disappointing
> >>>> it was.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it possible that folks who are interested in Psychodrama -are
> >>>> also
> >>>> interested in theather,and art -and therefore would shell a bit
> >>>> more money
> >>>> to be in S.F or NYC.? It is quite possible that if ASGPP meeting
> >>>> was in
> >>>> Manhattan ,rather than in Bklyn -the attendance would've been a
> >>>> larger .
> >>>> There are some affordable hotels on the Upper West Side,including
> >>>> hostels..
> >>>> -and the commute to theater and museums is only minutes...
> >>>> anath garber
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: Dale Richard Buchanan <dalerichardbuchanan at yahoo.com>
> >>>>> Reply-To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>> Subject: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
> >>>>> Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:53:10 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have been concerned about some of the postings
> >>>>> regarding the costs of the annual meeting. I think
> >>>>> before we create a new conserve we should carefully
> >>>>> review where we have been, where we want to go, and
> >>>>> the consequences, anticipated and unintended, of the
> >>>>> new conserve.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We must all take one step back and breathe. One of
> >>>>> the reasons why I believe that we have such confusion
> >>>>> and dissension about the annual meeting is that we
> >>>>> have not all agreed to the benchmarks that would
> >>>>> signify success for the annual meeting. Some of the
> >>>>> benchmarks that I have proposed in the past are the
> >>>>> following: Net Income (income from the annual meeting
> >>>>> minus all annual meetings expenses), number of total
> >>>>> attenders, and number of first time attenders. Now,
> >>>>> if we had that information, over time, we could track
> >>>>> whether or not the annual meeting was a success. We
> >>>>> could also do a graph of these with another item such
> >>>>> as hotel room cost that would give us a better idea of
> >>>>> the correlation of the room expense with the
> >>>>> benchmarks. I know I could get us a very good deal at
> >>>>> a summer camp in North Dakota, but don't think the
> >>>>> attendance would be very good even if it was very
> >>>>> cheap (smile).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To my understanding the Miami Annual meeting was one
> >>>>> of the least expensive in many a year. Airfare into
> >>>>> and from Miami or Ft. Lauderdale are among the lowest
> >>>>> in the country. I just paid $149 for a roundtrip
> >>>>> airfare from DC to Miami. AIrfares from the Coast
> >>>>> seldom exceed $300 versus the $440 I just paid for
> >>>>> roundtrip to Seattlle. The hotel costs in Miami were
> >>>>> among the lowest ever with a cost of just $109. The
> >>>>> Chairs (Mary Bellofatto, Nancy Kirsener & Sue McMunn)
> >>>>> also made arrangements for room sharing with up to
> >>>>> four persons in a room.
> >>>>> Thanks to the Chairs frugal spending the conference
> >>>>> made a lot of money but the attendance was very low --
> >>>>> about two hundred below San Francisco which was much
> >>>>> more expensive, and about 150 below this year's
> >>>>> conference which was also expensive.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Beware of unintended consequences! When Zerka was
> >>>>> President, and I was her Vice-President we listened to
> >>>>> the membership nd they wanted a less expensive annual
> >>>>> meeting. We tried an experiment by going to the
> >>>>> Poconos at a retreat center. We did everything that
> >>>>> was asked: leisure time to connect with others, good
> >>>>> inexpensive food in family style dining, inexpensive
> >>>>> lodging, recreational facilities to enjoy, etc. Well,
> >>>>> in the Poconos we have about 1/4 the attendance of the
> >>>>> New York Conference. The worst was that while we had
> >>>>> met or exceeded all the above expectations most said
> >>>>> they would never go to this type of annual meeting
> >>>>> again. Why, because they were upset that they were
> >>>>> not able to offer a workshop. Due to space
> >>>>> limitations we only had three or four workshops in
> >>>>> each time slot and we limited, at the suggestion of
> >>>>> the members, the number of sessions per day to so that
> >>>>> people could meet informally. Thus, this
> >>>>> disgruntlement over not presenting was a large
> >>>>> unintended consequence that was not anticipated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> After this I discovered that usually about 40% of the
> >>>>> meeting attenders are conducting workshops. When we
> >>>>> limit the number of presenters then a large part of
> >>>>> the membership is unhappy and does not attend.
> >>>>> Trainers from all over the country bring their
> >>>>> students and want to be recognized for their training
> >>>>> skills and they want their trainees to see their names
> >>>>> on the annual program.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't know the answers to people's concerns about
> >>>>> expenses, but I do know that we must first agree on
> >>>>> what equals success for the annual meeting. If we met
> >>>>> in a retreat center with 200 attenders when we had 465
> >>>>> in San Francisco and 391 in Brooklyn would the retreat
> >>>>> be a success. I also think that in many ways the
> >>>>> "expense" of the conference is a scapegoat for many
> >>>>> others concerns that we have for the annual meeting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am excited about this discussion and hope that you
> >>>>> realize that no matter what we say or do on grouptalk
> >>>>> it is the leadership of the ASGPP that will make all
> >>>>> final decisions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Peace, Dale Richard Buchanan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> Message: 2
> >>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 04:46:21 -0400
> >>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> >>>> To: "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>> Message-ID: <000f01c7914d$5a399160$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>>
> >>>> One of the best things about this discussion is how many people are
> >>>> actually commenting. It is good to know there are so many folks
> >>>> out there in
> >>>> grouptalk land.
> >>>> Rebecca
> >>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
> >>>> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
> >>>> (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
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> >>>> Message: 3
> >>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:28:55 -0400
> >>>> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10
> >>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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> >>>>
> >>>> Great Adam that you are engaging.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have found for myself that it has been through psychology and
> >>>> psychotherapy conferences around the world that I have gotten TSM
> >>>> accepted and promoted. In AUgust last year I was one of the
> >>>> plenary
> >>>> speakers at the World COngress on Psychotherapy in Malaysia and
> >>>> will
> >>>> again be a keynote speaker when it meets in Japan next year
> >>>> (already
> >>>> invited, arranged and will be paid to do so).
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael Weiser of Austria and Kiyoshi Takara of Japan came to my
> >>>> house following the conference to visit with Zerka and make plans
> >>>> with me for Japan. They are both clinical psychologists like I am.
> >>>>
> >>>> I told them how I anchor TSM not just in psychodrama but in the
> >>>> very large body of research of experiential psychotherapy (look up
> >>>> Les Greenberg and Robert Elliott) as well as van der Kolk's
> >>>> neurobiology on trauma. This is what needs to happen. Psychodrama
> >>>> needs to be brought into the mainstream. I have presented at
> >>>> ISTSS,
> >>>> SPR, IADES, and many other psychology conferences here and abroad.
> >>>> This is how TSM has become so widespread. We also need to
> >>>> connect to
> >>>> the drama therapy community that has a good academic presentation.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will be conducting a research project in China next year at a
> >>>> minimum of 4 universities and maybe up to 8. Currently Dr Lai in
> >>>> Taiwan is doing a pilot study on a 12 week TSM group for women who
> >>>> have experienced domestic violence. We will take the protocol
> >>>> and do
> >>>> it in CHina January 08 with adolescents and young people that are
> >>>> addicted to the internet, funded by the government! All of my
> >>>> connections in Taiwan and China have been with psychologists
> >>>> sponsoring my work. It has worked and we will continue to progress
> >>>> psychodrama in Asia though these channels.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have also connected with business people who are excited to
> >>>> market
> >>>> Action Solutions, our business applications of TSM> My husband
> >>>> and I
> >>>> will be conducting the first psychodrama workshop for people that
> >>>> are
> >>>> signed up for internet dating/matching in July. The conference in
> >>>> Suzhou that Gong Shu is organizing will be bringing several Western
> >>>> psychodramatists to China. I think psychodrama will soon be
> >>>> loved by
> >>>> many in CHina.
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile, I am getting about 4-5 requests a month about TSM
> >>>> training
> >>>> in USA becaues it is now mentioned in Corsini's chapter on group
> >>>> psychotherapy that is the text for most graduate programs and 3
> >>>> chapters are being published on it during the 1st few months of
> >>>> this
> >>>> year through drama therapy channels and a book on Advanced Theories
> >>>> of Psychodrama in Europe.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hope this helps others. Kate
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 7, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Adam M. Barcroft wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Ed,
> >>>>> I was at that ASGPP Journal meeting also,
> >>>>> and I remember when Tian said, three different times during the
> >>>>> meeting,
> >>>>> "The Circle is Broken here. We need to heal the broken circle."
> >>>>> From across the room, each time I heard her say this,
> >>>>> I felt large shock waves moving through my body.
> >>>>> Needless to say, I was more than a little surprised to be feeling
> >>>>> each of these shocks,
> >>>>> blasting through me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> After the meeting, as I walked around finding my next workshop's
> >>>>> room,
> >>>>> I experienced a catharsis of integration about
> >>>>> Tian's message, and the solution.
> >>>>> I saw Tian moments later in the hallway,
> >>>>> I walked over to her and said, excitedly,
> >>>>> "Tian! I have to tell you that I just figured out how we
> >>>>> heal the broken circle!" I paused, then said,
> >>>>> "The ENCOUNTER heals the broken circle!"
> >>>>> And as the master teacher and student that she is,
> >>>>> her eyes lit up with recognition, and gratitude. A hug,
> >>>>> and then she was off to the next room too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is, as Ed has already stated,
> >>>>> what was set in motion during our Journal meeting:
> >>>>> an encounter among representatives of the ASGPP Journal,
> >>>>> (with me in the role of student-interested-in-publishing
> >>>>> in various written formats and also research articles),
> >>>>> who communicated and clarified honestly and openly,
> >>>>> with full inclusion.
> >>>>> The Encounter heals the broken circle.
> >>>>> Meet my new mantra.
> >>>>> The entire experience was quite moving for me,
> >>>>> and plants a seed of understanding in my thinking about
> >>>>> the foundations of the Morenean Arts and Sciences.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you Ed for reminding me of the epiphany I had,
> >>>>> so that I could share my response with you and others.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, I am enjoying (watching) the discussions since the
> >>>>> conference,
> >>>>> and I am very impressed by how thoughtfully, intelligently,
> >>>>> candidly
> >>>>> and respectfully
> >>>>> our membership is taking the "Future Conferences" discussion.
> >>>>> What Kim Cox is saying I have been feeling for years now,
> >>>>> to present psychodrama at other conference venues,
> >>>>> and I've always justified not going to other national conferences
> >>>>> because of issues with time & money.
> >>>>> You can be sure Kim that I won't be making that error any longer.
> >>>>> I am committed to making presentations at other venues,
> >>>>> such as the Networker Conference next March.
> >>>>> Are there new conference postings and announcements that the ASGPP
> >>>>> sends out regularly,
> >>>>> having to do with ongoing conferences held by any organization
> >>>>> where
> >>>>> we might consider presenting? Or could there be an ASGPP website
> >>>>> forum for posting announcements about upcoming national and
> >>>>> international conferences?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In my opinion what Steve Gordon, Kim Cox, and others are saying
> >>>>> is very helpful input.
> >>>>> It is good to see such creativity flowing,
> >>>>> boldly and directly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adam M. Barcroft
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Today's Topics:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1. Re: next conference (Adam Blatner)
> >>>>>> 2. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
> >>>>>> 3. Re: next conference (Edward Schreiber)
> >>>>>> 4. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
> >>>>>> 5. FW: Conference on Dissociation (Karen Carnabucci)
> >>>>>> 6. Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> >>>>>> community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
> >>>>>> 7. RE: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> >>>>>> community (Sandy Blackman)
> >>>>>> 8. Moreno museum (Michael Wieser)
> >>>>>> 9. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> >>>>>> community (Kim Cox)
> >>>>>> 10. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> >>>>>> community (Edward Schreiber)
> >>>>>> 11. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> >>>>>> community (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
> >>>>>> 12. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
> >>>>>> community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
> >>>>>> 13. World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward Schreiber)
> >>>>>> 14. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno
> >>>>>> (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
> >>>>>> 15. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward
> >>>>>> Schreiber)
> >>>>>> 16. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
> >>>>>> Hudgins)
> >>>>>> 17. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
> >>>>>> Hudgins)
> >>>>>> 18. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
> >>>>>> Hudgins)
> >>>>>> 19. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward
> >>>>>> Schreiber)
> >>>>>> 20. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> >>>>>> 21. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> >>>>>> 22. Re: conference (Dr Kate Hudgins)
> >>>>>> 23. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
> >>>>>> 24. Re: conference (HV Psychodrama)
> >>>>>> 25. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
> >>>>>> 26. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
> >>>>>> Hudgins)
> >>>>>> 27. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward
> >>>>>> Schreiber)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Message: 1
> >>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 13:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>>>> From: Adam Blatner <ablatner at verizon.net>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
> >>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>> Message-ID: <237012.45944.qm at web84003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the
> >>>>>> motivation or willingness to attend the national conference
> >>>>>> and if
> >>>>>> so, what will that do to the asgpp as a national organization?
> >>>>>> adam
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote: Ed, Michael, and
> >>>>>> others who live in Western Mass/Albany area/New Paltz What if we
> >>>>>> got together and planned a two day conference for people who live
> >>>>>> locally? Had anyone else done that...is there a template out
> >>>>>> there
> >>>>>> for creating and running a short conference? Anyone interested in
> >>>>>> helping to create a template if there isn't one already?
> >>>>>> Rebecca
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: PATRICIA DESERT
> >>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well
> >>>>>> including John Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U.,
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> Morgan. Towson University is a state school and could be even
> >>>>>> more
> >>>>>> affordable than the private colleges.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of folks
> >>>>>> who would have rooms in their homes to let for the weekend. For
> >>>>>> example, I have two bedrooms available and if the conference were
> >>>>>> in Baltimore I could create such a list. What a nice experience
> >>>>>> for folks from other countries to experience a welcoming American
> >>>>>> family and home life as well as the conference.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Patti
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber
> >>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith College,
> >>>>>> University
> >>>>>> of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt. Holyoke
> >>>>>> College. We could find one college, I am sure, to house a
> >>>>>> conference in 2009. Colleges end mid-May, so we would have to
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> an early June conference. The conference could include, for
> >>>>>> those
> >>>>>> who wanted, rental of a dorm room. There are hotels here as
> >>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The criteria I hear from many is simply cost. Miami was great
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> the cost was high. If we want to attract many we have to
> >>>>>> make it
> >>>>>> affordable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ed
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>> Message: 2
> >>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:28:04 -0400
> >>>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
> >>>>>> To: <adam at blatner.com>, <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>>>> Message-ID: <006101c7901d$0d6395b0$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think if it planned right, in terms of timing, it will not
> >>>>>> interfere, but perhaps inspire people to attend the national
> >>>>>> conference. Look, the bottom line is that any number of folks
> >>>>>> cannot afford to travel to the places we hold the national
> >>>>>> conferences. They don't get to enjoy the sense of community that
> >>>>>> develops around the love of psychodrama that those of us who
> >>>>>> travel
> >>>>>> every year to the national conferences enjoy. My hope would be
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> local conferences would get and keep people engaged with the
> >>>>>> method, and perhaps they would in turn attend the national
> >>>>>> conference at another time. Think of it as advanced marketing.
> >>>>>> Next years conference is in Texas. I know most of my students
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>> not going to attend. Why not have a conference here in the east
> >>>>>> that would keep them connected until the conference returns to
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> north east. The other thing would be to be sure to hold it at a
> >>>>>> different time, certainly not April if that is when than national
> >>>>>> conference is held.
> >>>>>> I think it would be a terrific marketing idea for
> >>>>>> psychodramatists in Texas to hold one of two short conferences
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>> fall, to help develop a taste for an experience that will be
> >>>>>> fulfilled at the national conference next spring.
> >>>>>> Rebecca
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: Adam Blatner
> >>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:04 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the
> >>>>>> motivation or willingness to attend the national conference
> >>>>>> and if
> >>>>>> so, what will that do to the asgpp as a national organization?
> >>>>>> adam
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Ed, Michael, and others who live in Western Mass/Albany area/
> >>>>>> New Paltz What if we got together and planned a two day
> >>>>>> conference
> >>>>>> for people who live locally? Had anyone else done that...is
> >>>>>> there a
> >>>>>> template out there for creating and running a short conference?
> >>>>>> Anyone interested in helping to create a template if there isn't
> >>>>>> one already?
> >>>>>> Rebecca
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: PATRICIA DESERT
> >>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well
> >>>>>> including John Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U.,
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> Morgan. Towson University is a state school and could be even
> >>>>>> more
> >>>>>> affordable than the private colleges.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of
> >>>>>> folks who would have rooms in their homes to let for the weekend.
> >>>>>> For example, I have two bedrooms available and if the conference
> >>>>>> were in Baltimore I could create such a list. What a nice
> >>>>>> experience for folks from other countries to experience a
> >>>>>> welcoming
> >>>>>> American family and home life as well as the conference.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Patti
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber
> >>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith
> >>>>>> College,
> >>>>>> University
> >>>>>> of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt.
> >>>>>> Holyoke
> >>>>>> College. We could find one college, I am sure, to
> >>>>>> house a
> >>>>>> conference in 2009. Colleges end mid-May, so we would
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> to have
> >>>>>> an early June conference. The conference could include,
> >>>>>> for those
> >>>>>> who wanted, rental of a dorm room. There are hotels here
> >>>>>> as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The criteria I hear from many is simply cost. Miami was
> >>>>>> great but
> >>>>>> the cost was high. If we want to attract many we
> >>>>>> have to
> >>>>>> make it
> >>>>>> affordable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ed
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Message: 3
> >>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:51:37 -0400
> >>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
> >>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>> Message-ID: <6C60773E-0A0E-4787-9149-3846A0ED4505 at earthlink.net>
> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Colleagues,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
> >>>>>> to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
> >>>>>> we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
> >>>>>> conference for 2009, at a University in late May.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
> >>>>>> to put together an exploratory committee. If we have
> >>>>>> sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
> >>>>>> New Paltz or someplace like that. And if we explored it
> >>>>>> and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
> >>>>>> to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
> >>>>>> conference of HV and Western Mass.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Could even look at Albany!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ed
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Message: 4
> >>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 17:22:21 -0400
> >>>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
> >>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>>>> Message-ID: <001601c79024$a2351a40$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> >>>>>> reply-type=original
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I just sent off an email to a bunch of local people...we shall
> >>>>>> see
> >>>>>> what sort
> >>>>>> of interest there is in that,
> >>>>>> Rebecca
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> >>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:51 PM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Colleagues,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
> >>>>>>> to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
> >>>>>>> we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
> >>>>>>> conference for 2009, at a University in late May.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
> >>>>>>> to put together an exploratory committee. If we have
> >>>>>>> sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
> >>>>>>> New Paltz or someplace like that. And if we explored it
> >>>>>>> and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
> >>>>>>> to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
> >>>>>>> conference of HV and Western Mass.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Could even look at Albany!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ed
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
> >>>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Message: 5
> >>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:40:36 -0400
> >>>>>> From: "Karen Carnabucci" <karen at companionsinhealing.com>
> >>>>>> Subject: FW: Conference on Dissociation
> >>>>>> To: <therapeutic-spiral at yahoogroups.com>,
> >>>>>> <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>> <
> >>>> 9BD8AA83B7777E478DA1EAFAFA133B1E06776B10 at CL4EXBE03.ad2.softcom.biz>
> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> FYI see below.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP
> >>>>>> Companions In Healing
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Lake House Health & Learning Center
> >>>>>> 932 Lake Ave.
> >>>>>> Racine, WI 53403
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (262) 633-2645
> >>>>>> karen at companionsinhealing.com
> >>>>>> <blocked::javascript:parent.ComposeTo
> >>>>>> ('karen at companionsinhealing.com');>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> www.lakehousecenter.com <blocked::http://
> >>>>>> www.lakehousecenter.com/>
> >>>>>> www.companionsinhealing.com
> >>>>>> <blocked::http://www.companionsinhealing.com/>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Clinicians_Exchange at yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>> [mailto:Clinicians_Exchange at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sharon
> >>>>>> Farber
> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 8:10 PM
> >>>>>> To: DISSOCIATIVE-DISORDERS at LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG
> >>>>>> Subject: [Clinicians_Exchange] Conference on Dissociation
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To those who are in the NY area and have an interest in
> >>>>>> dissociation,
> >>>>>> the NY State Society of Clinical Social Work's annual conference
> >>>>>> will be
> >>>>>> on the subject of dissociation. It will be held at the Fordham
> >>>>>> University Graduate Center in NYC, at 60th and Columbus Ave. this
> >>>>>> Saturday, May 18. There will be workshops on various aspects of
> >>>>>> dissociation, including one that I will be doing, The Inner
> >>>>>> Predator:
> >>>>>> Trauma and Dissociation in Bodily Self-Harm (eating disorders,
> >>>>>> self-mutilation), based on the papers I was invited to present
> >>>>>> at the
> >>>>>> APA's National Convention in New Orleans in August and which I
> >>>>>> presented
> >>>>>> at the National Membership Committee on Psychoanalysis in
> >>>>>> Clinical
> >>>>>> Social Work's National conference in Chicago in March. .
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sharon Farber
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sharon K. Farber, PhD.
> >>>>>> 142 Edgars Lane
> >>>>>> Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
> >>>>>> www.Drsharonfarber.com <http://www.Drsharonfarber.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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