ASGPP Forum (Re) Invitation
Dr Kate Hudgins
drkatetsi at mac.com
Thu May 10 10:13:47 CDT 2007
and tell me again, HOW to do that? Kate
On May 9, 2007, at 1:52 PM, Adam M. Barcroft wrote:
> The ASGPP Forum is a great place to have many topics and sub topics,
> great for those of us craving more organization to the grouptalk
> discussions. I will keep checking in with Grouptalk; I ask that
> others make an effort to visit the Forum and comment more regularly.
> We could make it "Student Loungy," put up some catchy folders and
> make poetry and expressive art there and be more, like, salon-y?
>
> Seriously though, the ASGPP has a well designed Forum,
> and I find it easy to use.
> The ASGPP Forum is a marketplace of groups talking about many things
> at once,
> a kind of online symposium,
> with many simultaneous discussion areas.
> I am proud to be the first to be saying it,
> that the Forum site is a complement to group-talk and to the ASGPP!
> Personally I am enjoying having a space to post haikus, poems, etc..
> Professionally I am glad to contribute what I can.
>
> There is a Sociatry folder on the ASGPP Forum frontpage,
> and again I invite others to post ideas there,
> and to begin creating topic threads for discussion.
> A global discussion there would be ideal.
>
> Keep trying Ed. I appreciate your efforts to join the ASGPP Forum!
>
> Don't let the automatons get you down,
>
>
> Adam M. Barcroft
>
>
>
>
> On May 9, 2007, at 1:00 PM, list-request at grouptalkweb.org wrote:
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>> 1. Re: Conference Thread (Edward Schreiber)
>> 2. Combine Your Love of Theater and the Expressive Arts!!
>> (SaphiraL at aol.com)
>> 3. Re: economic squeezes (Adam Blatner)
>> 4. Colleagues - Please Edit Listserve Better! (ABE Psychodrama)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 11:27:48 -0400
>> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Re: Conference Thread
>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>> Grouptalk is easy for the techno-challenged like myself; the ASGPP
>> Forum is
>> still a learning curve!
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 9, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Adam M. Barcroft wrote:
>>
>>> I think I fall somewhere between Ed and Rebecca,
>>> on the continuum of a national conference on one end,
>>> and a regional conference on the other.
>>> I see the two as complementary, really.
>>> National conferences at the hotels I enjoy.
>>> I would love to participate also in student campus oriented
>>> conferences.
>>> I love the idea of having, from time to time, the conference in
>>> Miami
>>> for the weather, the beach, and the savings, and because it draws us
>>> (North America) sociometrically closer to South America, a hotbed
>>> for
>>> psychodrama.
>>> But not only Miami. I like the rotation of the conferences to
>>> different cities.
>>>
>>> As trying of my patience as the list-serve format is for me,
>>> I am finding this discussion informative, helpful, and valuable.
>>>
>>> Adam M. Barcroft
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 8, 2007, at 3:20 PM, list-request at grouptalkweb.org wrote:
>>>
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>>>> 1. Re: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop! (Adam Blatner)
>>>> 2. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15 (E L)
>>>> 3. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 14 (E L)
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:32:23 -0500
>>>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop!
>>>> To: "Tri-State Chapter" <tristatechapter at YAHOO.COM>
>>>> Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org, cca at cany.org
>>>> Message-ID: <058301c79196$d7451820$2e01a8c0 at desktop>
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>>>>
>>>> Please pass along my encouragement to Emily and/or Robert to write
>>>> up their approach to
>>>> dream work; note how it is similar to or different from
>>>> psychodramatic dream work; other
>>>> concepts; and submit this as a paper for the Journal of Group
>>>> Psychotherapy, Psychodrama &
>>>> Sociometry; or The Journal of Creativity in Counseling; or The
>>>> Arts in Psychotherapy
>>>> (journal).
>>>> Warmly, Adam
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tri-State Chapter" <tristatechapter at YAHOO.COM>
>>>> To: <DRAMATHERAPYLST at LISTSERV.KSU.EDU>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:11 PM
>>>> Subject: NYC Drama Therapy Workshop!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> THE CENTER FOR CREATIVE ALTERNATIVES PRESENTS
>>>>
>>>> DREAMSTORIES: WORKING WITH DREAMS THROUGH GROUP PROCESS &
>>>> THERAPEUTIC DRAMATIZATION
>>>>
>>>> A Drama Therapy Workshop Co-Led by
>>>> Robert Landy, Ph.D., LCAT, RDT-BCT & Emily Nash, LCAT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A dream is a theatre in which the dreamer is him/herself the
>>>> scene, the player, the
>>>> prompter, the producer, the author, the public, and the critic.
>>>> ~C.G. Jung
>>>>
>>>> - How do our dreams reflect unfinished business in our waking
>>>> lives?
>>>> - In what ways can we be guided by the symbolic messages in our
>>>> dreams?
>>>> - How can we work with our dreams dramatically in order to make
>>>> sense of the dream and
>>>> the dreamer?
>>>> - How can we apply our own experiences with dreams to
>>>> professional work with clients?
>>>>
>>>> WORKSHOP: This workshop is about ways and means to work
>>>> therapeutically with dreams in
>>>> order to more fully make sense of our inner worlds. We begin with
>>>> Jung's premise that the
>>>> dream is a theatre, a stage upon which we unconsciously enact our
>>>> unfinished business. In
>>>> this workshop, we will attempt to make the unconscious conscious
>>>> through a process of
>>>> therapeutic dramatization informed by an interactive group process.
>>>> The workshop will be
>>>> both didactic and experiential as we work toward understanding how
>>>> the enactment of the
>>>> dream can help the dreamer live a more fully integrated life.
>>>>
>>>> FOR WHOM: Creative arts therapists, mental health practitioners,
>>>> theater artists and all
>>>> those who are interested in exploring the therapeutic component of
>>>> theatre.
>>>>
>>>> ALL PARTICIPANTS are asked to bring one dream with them. The
>>>> dream can be a recurring
>>>> dream, a key dream from the past, or a very recent dream. You may
>>>> bring either a fully
>>>> recalled dream or a fragment. If you do not recall a dream, we will
>>>> help you find one.
>>>>
>>>> WORKSHOP LEADERS:
>>>> Robert J. Landy, Ph.D., RDT/BCT, LCAT: Professor of Applied
>>>> Psychology and Educational
>>>> Theater and Director of the Drama Therapy Program at New York
>>>> University. He is a leading
>>>> pioneer in drama therapy internationally and has written several
>>>> books and numerous
>>>> articles in the field.
>>>>
>>>> Emily Nash, LCAT: Ms. Nash has been a leader in the field of
>>>> therapeutic theatre for
>>>> twenty-five years. She is the Artistic Director and Director of
>>>> Training and Supervision
>>>> at Creative Alternatives New York and has presented her work at
>>>> national and international
>>>> conferences, and published her work with traumatized youth. Ms.
>>>> Nash also has extensive
>>>> experience as a professional actress.
>>>>
>>>> LOCATION: Judson Memorial Church (Click HERE for map)
>>>> 239 Thompson Street, between West 3rd Street and Washington
>>>> Square South.
>>>>
>>>> TRANSPORTATION: A,C,E,B,D,F or V train to West 4th Street.
>>>>
>>>> FEE: $120 ($55 for students)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TO REGISTER PRINT OUR REGISTRATION FORM FROM http://cany.org/
>>>> CCA.htm.
>>>>
>>>> Contact: Meredith Dean 917.856.2473 cca at cany.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:14:02 -0700
>>>> From: "E L" <elindblom at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15
>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <b89e47710705081214j624585f3oc038a59388172235 at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> Re: I'm new!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> I am new to the list and wanted to introduce myself. I was invited
>>>> by Tom
>>>> Treadwell. I wanted to add to the wonderful things about Zerka. She
>>>> directed
>>>> me once about twenty years ago in a psychodramatic baby
>>>> psychodrama. She is
>>>> wonderful. She has such a light touch when directing and, at the
>>>> same time,
>>>> is very clear. You always know where she is. I love it.
>>>>
>>>> To introduce myself. I am trained for ten years or so by Don
>>>> Miller, Martin
>>>> and Chelly Haskell, Doug Warner and Alan Wickersty. I practiced,
>>>> then, for
>>>> six years as a psychodrama trainer for The State of Maryland with
>>>> Rene Clay
>>>> and Constantine Sackles where I was supervised by Doug Warner.
>>>> (Alan Blatner
>>>> asked me if I would not call myself a psychodramatist. That's fine
>>>> for now.)
>>>> I've been on a break since 1988 from psychodrama to do some
>>>> thinking about
>>>> it. Hey, it took a while!
>>>>
>>>> So now coming back, I am teaching Psychodrama at Harvard University
>>>> (h2o).
>>>> My intuitive sense is this shall be quite good.
>>>>
>>>> http://personas.bravehost.com/7.html
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/8/07, list-request at grouptalkweb.org <list-
>>>> request at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>> 2. My work and business (BARNETT WEISS)
>>>>> 3. economic squeezes (Adam Blatner)
>>>>> 4. Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors (HV
>>>>> Psychodrama)
>>>>>
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>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:39:23 -0400
>>>>> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>> Message-ID: <61050C38-115B-4550-B74A-98EBF325F8EF at mac.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>
>>>>> YEs, absolutely Zerka is THE best!!!!! I am truly blessed to
>>>>> live
>>>>> in Cville and see her and other psychodramatists who come to see
>>>>> her
>>>>> so often. I have NEVER EVER heard her say anything bad about
>>>>> another
>>>>> human being. She is totally accepting and filled with care for
>>>>> her.
>>>>> She has taught me how to be with my students, fully accepting
>>>>> and NO
>>>>> criticism. I believe it is due to Zerka even more than JL who has
>>>>> brought psychodrama to where we are now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I look forward to seeing you for the workshop in June at her
>>>>> house.
>>>>> I will not attend the workshop but a TSM student of mine will be
>>>>> here
>>>>> and we plan on making a THanksgiving dinner for you all on
>>>>> saturday
>>>>> night--to celebrate psychodrama family. I wish Zerka could come,
>>>>> but
>>>>> I know she will be tired after a day of teaching.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of my Taiwan and Chinese students came for a workshop with
>>>>> her 2
>>>>> weekends ago and 2 international psychodramatists came last
>>>>> weekend
>>>>> and she did a masterful job at both. She is amazing!
>>>>>
>>>>> See you soon. Tele, Kate
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kate,
>>>>>> Zerka Moreno is the best example in my life
>>>>>> and I say that honestly - this is about me and my life -
>>>>>> the best example (besides my own mother) for what
>>>>>> it means to include people at the table. That Zerka
>>>>>> has embraced and included me is a gift she has given
>>>>>> to how many hundreds of people, or thousands?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What an absolute joy for me to meet Guy Taylor again
>>>>>> at the Conference. He was such an important part of my
>>>>>> learning about psychodramatic work and his teaching has
>>>>>> influenced me so profoundly in such positive ways.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thank you sweetie. I AM Glad to be home. I will go back to
>>>>>>> Taiwan and CHina from July to November to do TSM work so am
>>>>>>> truly
>>>>>>> and absolutely enjoying this time. I now have an apartment in
>>>>>>> Shanghai so that helps. Tele and love to you, kate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 1:57 PM, ROROBEAR at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Kate
>>>>>>>> I love what you are suggesting...welcome home.
>>>>>>>> I have missed you
>>>>>>>> Rosalie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See what's free at AOL.com.
>>>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clinical Psychologist
>>>>>>> Director of Training
>>>>>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>>>>>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>>>>>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Kate Hudgins, Ph.D., TEP
>>>>>
>>>>> Clinical Psychologist
>>>>> Director of Training
>>>>> Therapeutic Spiral International, LLC
>>>>> ww.therapeuticspiral.org
>>>>> drkatetsi at mac.com
>>>>>
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>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 06:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>
>>>>> Subject: My work and business
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>>>
>>>>> Dear People:
>>>>> Please call or write me back channel to my individual e-mail
>>>>> address about
>>>>> the Entertainment/Educational digital business I have entered into
>>>>> which can
>>>>> support all of the work we are doing here in the US and opening in
>>>>> England,
>>>>> Canada, Australia and parts of Asia in less than 45 days. It will
>>>>> then be
>>>>> opening in over 100 countries in the next 3 years. We can move
>>>>> our books,
>>>>> CDs, DVD's, everything that can be digitalized into their library
>>>>> for sale
>>>>> to the millions who willl be receiving the ability even for free
>>>>> to have a
>>>>> site from which they can advertise and sell these materials at
>>>>> tremendous
>>>>> financial and publicity benefit to us and them for the spread of
>>>>> the
>>>>> information. There has never been anything like this in the
>>>>> history of
>>>>> entertainment publishing or marketing. It is truly of by and for
>>>>> the
>>>>> people. Blessings, Bud
>>>>>
>>>>> Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW
>>>>> 7410 Ridge Blvd 2D
>>>>> Brooklyn, NY 11209
>>>>> E-Mail: Budweiss at verizon.net
>>>>> Cell (917)-751-3395
>>>>> web page: WWW.BURNLOUNGE.COM/BUDSLOUNGE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>> From: HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>>> To: grouptalk <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2007 4:46:21 AM
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the best things about this discussion is how many people
>>>>> are
>>>>> actually commenting. It is good to know there are so many folks
>>>>> out there in
>>>>> grouptalk land.
>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
>>>>> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
>>>>> (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
>>>>> visit us at our website: www.hvpi.net
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>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:59:13 -0500
>>>>> From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
>>>>> Subject: economic squeezes
>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>> Message-ID: <053001c79181$71233550$2e01a8c0 at desktop>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>> Re economic stresses in our times: I would suggest that there
>>>>> is a
>>>>> state we might
>>>>> call "hustling" that operates between prosperity and
>>>>> demoralization. In
>>>>> prosperity, there
>>>>> is surplus time/energy to build the society, and the sub-
>>>>> societies. The
>>>>> decline of
>>>>> civilizations comes with a general sense of economic and social
>>>>> decay, and
>>>>> I'm beginning
>>>>> to think about that.
>>>>> There are developed countries, and under-developed countries.
>>>>> I've
>>>>> heard about decay,
>>>>> but haven't been faced with it. I heard about the Great Depression
>>>>> of the
>>>>> 1930s, but it
>>>>> was over before the morale of the culture could drop.
>>>>> Decay may be more gradual, involving a longer period of
>>>>> "squeezing"
>>>>> the middle
>>>>> class. I think that's what is going on, more dramatically in
>>>>> Russia,
>>>>> perhaps, but also in
>>>>> the USA. People are hustling, busy, feeling stressed, and every
>>>>> encouragement for giving a
>>>>> bit---who has anything left over to give?
>>>>> Trillions of dollars are being spent on armaments and the
>>>>> support
>>>>> systems,
>>>>> salaries, oil, etc. for Iraq. Down the tubes. That money leaves
>>>>> everyone
>>>>> correspondingly
>>>>> drained. No money left for this and that.
>>>>> At work, equally tight. No money for psychiatric
>>>>> treatment, or at
>>>>> least, it's
>>>>> rationed, so the treatment becomes hurried.
>>>>> Management competence is measured in terms of how many
>>>>> corners you
>>>>> can cut and still
>>>>> fool others and yourself that you haven't cut quality. but of
>>>>> course you
>>>>> have.
>>>>> I think this mid-level of decay, hustling, can go on for
>>>>> years. People
>>>>> can still
>>>>> think of themselves as reasonably prosperous, and the advertisers
>>>>> and
>>>>> media support this
>>>>> image. Yet they aren't, they need to keep busier to keep up.
>>>>> I think decay can lead to its own sub-type or component of
>>>>> demoralization, a
>>>>> hardening, all rationalized. No time, no time. Those other things,
>>>>> hospitality,
>>>>> reciprocity, answering emails... not important.
>>>>> If decay continues, it leads to depression, demoralization,
>>>>> helplessness, giving
>>>>> up. The boundaries may be fuzzy. Perhaps it leads more to
>>>>> desperateness
>>>>> and the
>>>>> rationalization of immorality, crime, fudging the ethics.
>>>>> In the hustling stage, there is also increased entitlement. Why
>>>>> can't I
>>>>> get some too?
>>>>> If some get if free, why can't everything be free. It's my right.
>>>>> (what,
>>>>> after all , is a
>>>>> "right" but a social agreement?)
>>>>> (My son has been surprised at the emails he receives:
>>>>> He's
>>>>> developed programs
>>>>> for teaching people how to get the most out of programs---in his
>>>>> field of
>>>>> desktop
>>>>> publishing, he's considered a major figure, an expert. But people
>>>>> seem to
>>>>> resent the not-excessive cost of his instructional programs. Most
>>>>> interesting.)
>>>>> Indeed, my son read the above and wrote: I think you're quite
>>>>> right.
>>>>> There has been
>>>>> a radical change in how we function. Most of my colleagues simply
>>>>> expect
>>>>> to work 2 or 3
>>>>> people's jobs. Many people I know in management positions are now
>>>>> forced
>>>>> to fly economy
>>>>> class at all times, including frequent trips to Asia, Europe,
>>>>> etc., then
>>>>> just sigh and say
>>>>> what can be done, as the budgets have been slashed, even in
>>>>> economic boon.
>>>>> Everyone I know
>>>>> is exhausted.
>>>>> A friend of mine nearing 80 noted one of the most interesting
>>>>> changes
>>>>> over even the
>>>>> past 30 or 40 years is that hardly anyone has time to read the
>>>>> newspaper
>>>>> anymore. He said
>>>>> that even the most stressed out, overworked person would still
>>>>> have time
>>>>> to read the
>>>>> paper. No longer. Too much hustle.
>>>>> Hustling at 36,000 feet on my way to a conference in Chicago,
>>>>> David>
>>>>> Blatner
>>>>> What might be your thoughts on this? --
>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:08:30 -0400
>>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>>> Subject: Action Methods for Substance Abuse Counselors
>>>>> To: "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>> Message-ID: <029201c79182$bd5e2c30$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> hours towards
>>>>> certification by the American Board of Examiners in Psychodrama
>>>>> and Group
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trainer Bio
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Coleman, LMSW, TEP, is the co director of LA JORNADA
>>>>> INSTITUTE which
>>>>> offers professional training in psychodrama, sociometry and group
>>>>> psychotherapy to mental health and substance abuse counselors in
>>>>> both Tucson
>>>>> and New Mexico. Bill is currently on the staff of Sierra Tucson
>>>>> where he
>>>>> works as a Trauma Therapist. Before moving to the Southwest, Bill
>>>>> was a
>>>>> staff psychodramatist for at Four Winds Psychiatric Hospital,
>>>>> Westchester
>>>>> County, NY where he worked with adolescents and adults, including
>>>>> running
>>>>> groups with the dually diagnosed MICA population. He also
>>>>> developed and ran
>>>>> the psychodrama program at Freedom Institute, an outpatient
>>>>> substance abuse
>>>>> facility in New York City. Bill created and taught the HVPI
>>>>> "Psychodrama
>>>>> with the Chemically Dependent" curriculum for Daytop Village. Bill
>>>>> has been
>>>>> a frequent presenter at the Hudson Valley Chapter of the American
>>>>> Society
>>>>> for Group Psychotherapy and Psychodrama monthly meetings as
>>>>> well as
>>>>> presenting at the yearly meetings of the American Society for
>>>>> Group
>>>>> Psychotherapy and Psychodrama and at the national conference of
>>>>> the American
>>>>> Society of Group Psychotherapy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
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>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:20:27 -0700
>>>> From: "E L" <elindblom at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 14
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>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I am new to the list. I wanted to remark about the Poconos. It
>>>> could be that
>>>> I am the only one who loved it. I met Rene there for the second
>>>> time!
>>>> (Marineau). I realized that he was, indeed, the reincarnation of
>>>> Moreno.
>>>> (Aren't we all? It's an I-God thing.)
>>>>
>>>> So, anyway, we can't go to the Poconos anymore. I understand. (I
>>>> loved it
>>>> anyway.)
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/8/07, list-request at grouptalkweb.org <list-
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>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. RE: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (thana ag)
>>>>> 2. (HV Psychodrama)
>>>>> 3. Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10 (Dr Kate Hudgins)
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>>>>> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 04:20:16 +0000
>>>>> From: "thana ag" <anathga at hotmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: RE: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>>> Dale,
>>>>>
>>>>> What excellent points you make!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I actually remember well that conference in Poconos --and how
>>>>> disappointing
>>>>> it was.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible that folks who are interested in Psychodrama -are
>>>>> also
>>>>> interested in theather,and art -and therefore would shell a bit
>>>>> more money
>>>>> to be in S.F or NYC.? It is quite possible that if ASGPP meeting
>>>>> was in
>>>>> Manhattan ,rather than in Bklyn -the attendance would've been a
>>>>> larger .
>>>>> There are some affordable hotels on the Upper West Side,including
>>>>> hostels..
>>>>> -and the commute to theater and museums is only minutes...
>>>>> anath garber
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Dale Richard Buchanan <dalerichardbuchanan at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> Reply-To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>> Subject: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:53:10 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been concerned about some of the postings
>>>>>> regarding the costs of the annual meeting. I think
>>>>>> before we create a new conserve we should carefully
>>>>>> review where we have been, where we want to go, and
>>>>>> the consequences, anticipated and unintended, of the
>>>>>> new conserve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We must all take one step back and breathe. One of
>>>>>> the reasons why I believe that we have such confusion
>>>>>> and dissension about the annual meeting is that we
>>>>>> have not all agreed to the benchmarks that would
>>>>>> signify success for the annual meeting. Some of the
>>>>>> benchmarks that I have proposed in the past are the
>>>>>> following: Net Income (income from the annual meeting
>>>>>> minus all annual meetings expenses), number of total
>>>>>> attenders, and number of first time attenders. Now,
>>>>>> if we had that information, over time, we could track
>>>>>> whether or not the annual meeting was a success. We
>>>>>> could also do a graph of these with another item such
>>>>>> as hotel room cost that would give us a better idea of
>>>>>> the correlation of the room expense with the
>>>>>> benchmarks. I know I could get us a very good deal at
>>>>>> a summer camp in North Dakota, but don't think the
>>>>>> attendance would be very good even if it was very
>>>>>> cheap (smile).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To my understanding the Miami Annual meeting was one
>>>>>> of the least expensive in many a year. Airfare into
>>>>>> and from Miami or Ft. Lauderdale are among the lowest
>>>>>> in the country. I just paid $149 for a roundtrip
>>>>>> airfare from DC to Miami. AIrfares from the Coast
>>>>>> seldom exceed $300 versus the $440 I just paid for
>>>>>> roundtrip to Seattlle. The hotel costs in Miami were
>>>>>> among the lowest ever with a cost of just $109. The
>>>>>> Chairs (Mary Bellofatto, Nancy Kirsener & Sue McMunn)
>>>>>> also made arrangements for room sharing with up to
>>>>>> four persons in a room.
>>>>>> Thanks to the Chairs frugal spending the conference
>>>>>> made a lot of money but the attendance was very low --
>>>>>> about two hundred below San Francisco which was much
>>>>>> more expensive, and about 150 below this year's
>>>>>> conference which was also expensive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beware of unintended consequences! When Zerka was
>>>>>> President, and I was her Vice-President we listened to
>>>>>> the membership nd they wanted a less expensive annual
>>>>>> meeting. We tried an experiment by going to the
>>>>>> Poconos at a retreat center. We did everything that
>>>>>> was asked: leisure time to connect with others, good
>>>>>> inexpensive food in family style dining, inexpensive
>>>>>> lodging, recreational facilities to enjoy, etc. Well,
>>>>>> in the Poconos we have about 1/4 the attendance of the
>>>>>> New York Conference. The worst was that while we had
>>>>>> met or exceeded all the above expectations most said
>>>>>> they would never go to this type of annual meeting
>>>>>> again. Why, because they were upset that they were
>>>>>> not able to offer a workshop. Due to space
>>>>>> limitations we only had three or four workshops in
>>>>>> each time slot and we limited, at the suggestion of
>>>>>> the members, the number of sessions per day to so that
>>>>>> people could meet informally. Thus, this
>>>>>> disgruntlement over not presenting was a large
>>>>>> unintended consequence that was not anticipated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After this I discovered that usually about 40% of the
>>>>>> meeting attenders are conducting workshops. When we
>>>>>> limit the number of presenters then a large part of
>>>>>> the membership is unhappy and does not attend.
>>>>>> Trainers from all over the country bring their
>>>>>> students and want to be recognized for their training
>>>>>> skills and they want their trainees to see their names
>>>>>> on the annual program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know the answers to people's concerns about
>>>>>> expenses, but I do know that we must first agree on
>>>>>> what equals success for the annual meeting. If we met
>>>>>> in a retreat center with 200 attenders when we had 465
>>>>>> in San Francisco and 391 in Brooklyn would the retreat
>>>>>> be a success. I also think that in many ways the
>>>>>> "expense" of the conference is a scapegoat for many
>>>>>> others concerns that we have for the annual meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am excited about this discussion and hope that you
>>>>>> realize that no matter what we say or do on grouptalk
>>>>>> it is the leadership of the ASGPP that will make all
>>>>>> final decisions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peace, Dale Richard Buchanan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 04:46:21 -0400
>>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "grouptalk" <list at grouptalkweb.org>
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>>>>>
>>>>> One of the best things about this discussion is how many people
>>>>> are
>>>>> actually commenting. It is good to know there are so many folks
>>>>> out there in
>>>>> grouptalk land.
>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>> Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute
>>>>> 68 DuBois Road New Paltz, NY 12561
>>>>> (845) 255 7502 hvpi at hvc.rr.com
>>>>> visit us at our website: www.hvpi.net
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>>>>> Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:28:55 -0400
>>>>> From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 10
>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>>>>>
>>>>> Great Adam that you are engaging.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have found for myself that it has been through psychology and
>>>>> psychotherapy conferences around the world that I have gotten TSM
>>>>> accepted and promoted. In AUgust last year I was one of the
>>>>> plenary
>>>>> speakers at the World COngress on Psychotherapy in Malaysia and
>>>>> will
>>>>> again be a keynote speaker when it meets in Japan next year
>>>>> (already
>>>>> invited, arranged and will be paid to do so).
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Weiser of Austria and Kiyoshi Takara of Japan came to my
>>>>> house following the conference to visit with Zerka and make plans
>>>>> with me for Japan. They are both clinical psychologists like I
>>>>> am.
>>>>>
>>>>> I told them how I anchor TSM not just in psychodrama but in the
>>>>> very large body of research of experiential psychotherapy (look up
>>>>> Les Greenberg and Robert Elliott) as well as van der Kolk's
>>>>> neurobiology on trauma. This is what needs to happen.
>>>>> Psychodrama
>>>>> needs to be brought into the mainstream. I have presented at
>>>>> ISTSS,
>>>>> SPR, IADES, and many other psychology conferences here and abroad.
>>>>> This is how TSM has become so widespread. We also need to
>>>>> connect to
>>>>> the drama therapy community that has a good academic presentation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be conducting a research project in China next year at a
>>>>> minimum of 4 universities and maybe up to 8. Currently Dr Lai in
>>>>> Taiwan is doing a pilot study on a 12 week TSM group for women who
>>>>> have experienced domestic violence. We will take the protocol
>>>>> and do
>>>>> it in CHina January 08 with adolescents and young people that are
>>>>> addicted to the internet, funded by the government! All of my
>>>>> connections in Taiwan and China have been with psychologists
>>>>> sponsoring my work. It has worked and we will continue to
>>>>> progress
>>>>> psychodrama in Asia though these channels.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also connected with business people who are excited to
>>>>> market
>>>>> Action Solutions, our business applications of TSM> My husband
>>>>> and I
>>>>> will be conducting the first psychodrama workshop for people that
>>>>> are
>>>>> signed up for internet dating/matching in July. The conference in
>>>>> Suzhou that Gong Shu is organizing will be bringing several
>>>>> Western
>>>>> psychodramatists to China. I think psychodrama will soon be
>>>>> loved by
>>>>> many in CHina.
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, I am getting about 4-5 requests a month about TSM
>>>>> training
>>>>> in USA becaues it is now mentioned in Corsini's chapter on group
>>>>> psychotherapy that is the text for most graduate programs and 3
>>>>> chapters are being published on it during the 1st few months of
>>>>> this
>>>>> year through drama therapy channels and a book on Advanced
>>>>> Theories
>>>>> of Psychodrama in Europe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps others. Kate
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 7, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Adam M. Barcroft wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>> I was at that ASGPP Journal meeting also,
>>>>>> and I remember when Tian said, three different times during the
>>>>>> meeting,
>>>>>> "The Circle is Broken here. We need to heal the broken circle."
>>>>>> From across the room, each time I heard her say this,
>>>>>> I felt large shock waves moving through my body.
>>>>>> Needless to say, I was more than a little surprised to be feeling
>>>>>> each of these shocks,
>>>>>> blasting through me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After the meeting, as I walked around finding my next workshop's
>>>>>> room,
>>>>>> I experienced a catharsis of integration about
>>>>>> Tian's message, and the solution.
>>>>>> I saw Tian moments later in the hallway,
>>>>>> I walked over to her and said, excitedly,
>>>>>> "Tian! I have to tell you that I just figured out how we
>>>>>> heal the broken circle!" I paused, then said,
>>>>>> "The ENCOUNTER heals the broken circle!"
>>>>>> And as the master teacher and student that she is,
>>>>>> her eyes lit up with recognition, and gratitude. A hug,
>>>>>> and then she was off to the next room too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is, as Ed has already stated,
>>>>>> what was set in motion during our Journal meeting:
>>>>>> an encounter among representatives of the ASGPP Journal,
>>>>>> (with me in the role of student-interested-in-publishing
>>>>>> in various written formats and also research articles),
>>>>>> who communicated and clarified honestly and openly,
>>>>>> with full inclusion.
>>>>>> The Encounter heals the broken circle.
>>>>>> Meet my new mantra.
>>>>>> The entire experience was quite moving for me,
>>>>>> and plants a seed of understanding in my thinking about
>>>>>> the foundations of the Morenean Arts and Sciences.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Ed for reminding me of the epiphany I had,
>>>>>> so that I could share my response with you and others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I am enjoying (watching) the discussions since the
>>>>>> conference,
>>>>>> and I am very impressed by how thoughtfully, intelligently,
>>>>>> candidly
>>>>>> and respectfully
>>>>>> our membership is taking the "Future Conferences" discussion.
>>>>>> What Kim Cox is saying I have been feeling for years now,
>>>>>> to present psychodrama at other conference venues,
>>>>>> and I've always justified not going to other national conferences
>>>>>> because of issues with time & money.
>>>>>> You can be sure Kim that I won't be making that error any longer.
>>>>>> I am committed to making presentations at other venues,
>>>>>> such as the Networker Conference next March.
>>>>>> Are there new conference postings and announcements that the
>>>>>> ASGPP
>>>>>> sends out regularly,
>>>>>> having to do with ongoing conferences held by any organization
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> we might consider presenting? Or could there be an ASGPP website
>>>>>> forum for posting announcements about upcoming national and
>>>>>> international conferences?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my opinion what Steve Gordon, Kim Cox, and others are saying
>>>>>> is very helpful input.
>>>>>> It is good to see such creativity flowing,
>>>>>> boldly and directly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam M. Barcroft
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Re: next conference (Adam Blatner)
>>>>>>> 2. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
>>>>>>> 3. Re: next conference (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>>>> 4. Re: next conference (HV Psychodrama)
>>>>>>> 5. FW: Conference on Dissociation (Karen Carnabucci)
>>>>>>> 6. Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>>> community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
>>>>>>> 7. RE: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>>> community (Sandy Blackman)
>>>>>>> 8. Moreno museum (Michael Wieser)
>>>>>>> 9. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>>> community (Kim Cox)
>>>>>>> 10. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>>> community (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>>>> 11. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>>> community (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
>>>>>>> 12. Re: Long term viability of the ASGPP and the psychodrama
>>>>>>> community (Hug4abear at aol.com)
>>>>>>> 13. World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward
>>>>>>> Schreiber)
>>>>>>> 14. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno
>>>>>>> (ROROBEAR at aol.com)
>>>>>>> 15. Re: World Wide Birthday Gift To Zerka Moreno (Edward
>>>>>>> Schreiber)
>>>>>>> 16. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>>>> 17. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>>>> 18. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>>>> 19. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward
>>>>>>> Schreiber)
>>>>>>> 20. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>>>>>> 21. Re: annual meeting (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>>>>>> 22. Re: conference (Dr Kate Hudgins)
>>>>>>> 23. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>>>> 24. Re: conference (HV Psychodrama)
>>>>>>> 25. Re: conference (Edward Schreiber)
>>>>>>> 26. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Dr Kate
>>>>>>> Hudgins)
>>>>>>> 27. Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting (Edward
>>>>>>> Schreiber)
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 13:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>>> From: Adam Blatner <ablatner at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <237012.45944.qm at web84003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the
>>>>>>> motivation or willingness to attend the national conference
>>>>>>> and if
>>>>>>> so, what will that do to the asgpp as a national organization?
>>>>>>> adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote: Ed, Michael,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> others who live in Western Mass/Albany area/New Paltz What
>>>>>>> if we
>>>>>>> got together and planned a two day conference for people who
>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>> locally? Had anyone else done that...is there a template out
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> for creating and running a short conference? Anyone
>>>>>>> interested in
>>>>>>> helping to create a template if there isn't one already?
>>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: PATRICIA DESERT
>>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well
>>>>>>> including John Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U.,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Morgan. Towson University is a state school and could be even
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> affordable than the private colleges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of folks
>>>>>>> who would have rooms in their homes to let for the weekend. For
>>>>>>> example, I have two bedrooms available and if the conference
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> in Baltimore I could create such a list. What a nice experience
>>>>>>> for folks from other countries to experience a welcoming
>>>>>>> American
>>>>>>> family and home life as well as the conference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patti
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber
>>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith College,
>>>>>>> University
>>>>>>> of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt. Holyoke
>>>>>>> College. We could find one college, I am sure, to house a
>>>>>>> conference in 2009. Colleges end mid-May, so we would have to
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> an early June conference. The conference could include, for
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>> who wanted, rental of a dorm room. There are hotels here as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The criteria I hear from many is simply cost. Miami was great
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> the cost was high. If we want to attract many we have to
>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>> affordable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
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>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:28:04 -0400
>>>>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>> To: <adam at blatner.com>, <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <006101c7901d$0d6395b0$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think if it planned right, in terms of timing, it will not
>>>>>>> interfere, but perhaps inspire people to attend the national
>>>>>>> conference. Look, the bottom line is that any number of folks
>>>>>>> cannot afford to travel to the places we hold the national
>>>>>>> conferences. They don't get to enjoy the sense of community that
>>>>>>> develops around the love of psychodrama that those of us who
>>>>>>> travel
>>>>>>> every year to the national conferences enjoy. My hope would be
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> local conferences would get and keep people engaged with the
>>>>>>> method, and perhaps they would in turn attend the national
>>>>>>> conference at another time. Think of it as advanced marketing.
>>>>>>> Next years conference is in Texas. I know most of my students
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> not going to attend. Why not have a conference here in the east
>>>>>>> that would keep them connected until the conference returns to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> north east. The other thing would be to be sure to hold it at a
>>>>>>> different time, certainly not April if that is when than
>>>>>>> national
>>>>>>> conference is held.
>>>>>>> I think it would be a terrific marketing idea for
>>>>>>> psychodramatists in Texas to hold one of two short conferences
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> fall, to help develop a taste for an experience that will be
>>>>>>> fulfilled at the national conference next spring.
>>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Adam Blatner
>>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:04 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> but will the holding of alternative conferences undercut the
>>>>>>> motivation or willingness to attend the national conference
>>>>>>> and if
>>>>>>> so, what will that do to the asgpp as a national organization?
>>>>>>> adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ed, Michael, and others who live in Western Mass/Albany
>>>>>>> area/
>>>>>>> New Paltz What if we got together and planned a two day
>>>>>>> conference
>>>>>>> for people who live locally? Had anyone else done that...is
>>>>>>> there a
>>>>>>> template out there for creating and running a short conference?
>>>>>>> Anyone interested in helping to create a template if there isn't
>>>>>>> one already?
>>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: PATRICIA DESERT
>>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 9:25 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And Baltimore, MD has many colleges/universities as well
>>>>>>> including John Hopkins, Goucher, Loyola, Notre Dame, Towson U.,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Morgan. Towson University is a state school and could be even
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> affordable than the private colleges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another affordable option to expensive hotels--a list of
>>>>>>> folks who would have rooms in their homes to let for the
>>>>>>> weekend.
>>>>>>> For example, I have two bedrooms available and if the conference
>>>>>>> were in Baltimore I could create such a list. What a nice
>>>>>>> experience for folks from other countries to experience a
>>>>>>> welcoming
>>>>>>> American family and home life as well as the conference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patti
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber
>>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:07 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Northampton, Mass has 5 colleges, including Smith
>>>>>>> College,
>>>>>>> University
>>>>>>> of Massachusetts, Amherst, Hampshire College and Mt.
>>>>>>> Holyoke
>>>>>>> College. We could find one college, I am sure, to
>>>>>>> house a
>>>>>>> conference in 2009. Colleges end mid-May, so we would
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to have
>>>>>>> an early June conference. The conference could include,
>>>>>>> for those
>>>>>>> who wanted, rental of a dorm room. There are hotels
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The criteria I hear from many is simply cost. Miami was
>>>>>>> great but
>>>>>>> the cost was high. If we want to attract many we
>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>> make it
>>>>>>> affordable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:51:37 -0400
>>>>>>> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>> To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <6C60773E-0A0E-4787-9149-3846A0ED4505 at earthlink.net>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
>>>>>>> to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
>>>>>>> we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
>>>>>>> conference for 2009, at a University in late May.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
>>>>>>> to put together an exploratory committee. If we have
>>>>>>> sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
>>>>>>> New Paltz or someplace like that. And if we explored it
>>>>>>> and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
>>>>>>> to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
>>>>>>> conference of HV and Western Mass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could even look at Albany!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 17:22:21 -0400
>>>>>>> From: "HV Psychodrama" <hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>>> Message-ID: <001601c79024$a2351a40$6501a8c0 at rebecca>
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just sent off an email to a bunch of local people...we shall
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> what sort
>>>>>>> of interest there is in that,
>>>>>>> Rebecca
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Edward Schreiber" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:51 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: next conference
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I propose we set up an ad-hoc exploratory committee
>>>>>>>> to SUPPORT THE ASGPP efforts by trying to see if
>>>>>>>> we can come up with a Northeast (ie: how about New Paltz)
>>>>>>>> conference for 2009, at a University in late May.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We could begin by seeing who around us here might want
>>>>>>>> to put together an exploratory committee. If we have
>>>>>>>> sufficient interest from this area, we might then explore
>>>>>>>> New Paltz or someplace like that. And if we explored it
>>>>>>>> and liked the fiscal-sound we might decide to make a proposal
>>>>>>>> to the ASGPP exec committee for 2009 for a NE collaborative
>>>>>>>> conference of HV and Western Mass.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could even look at Albany!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Grouptalk mailing list
>>>>>>>> List at grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>>> http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 21:40:36 -0400
>>>>>>> From: "Karen Carnabucci" <karen at companionsinhealing.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: FW: Conference on Dissociation
>>>>>>> To: <therapeutic-spiral at yahoogroups.com>,
>>>>>>> <list at grouptalkweb.org>
>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>> <
>>>>> 9BD8AA83B7777E478DA1EAFAFA133B1E06776B10 at CL4EXBE03.ad2.softcom.biz
>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FYI see below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP
>>>>>>> Companions In Healing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lake House Health & Learning Center
>>>>>>> 932 Lake Ave.
>>>>>>> Racine, WI 53403
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (262) 633-2645
>>>>>>> karen at companionsinhealing.com
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Clinicians_Exchange at yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:Clinicians_Exchange at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sharon
>>>>>>> Farber
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 8:10 PM
>>>>>>> To: DISSOCIATIVE-DISORDERS at LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG
>>>>>>> Subject: [Clinicians_Exchange] Conference on Dissociation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To those who are in the NY area and have an interest in
>>>>>>> dissociation,
>>>>>>> the NY State Society of Clinical Social Work's annual conference
>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>> on the subject of dissociation. It will be held at the Fordham
>>>>>>> University Graduate Center in NYC, at 60th and Columbus Ave.
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> Saturday, May 18. There will be workshops on various aspects of
>>>>>>> dissociation, including one that I will be doing, The Inner
>>>>>>> Predator:
>>>>>>> Trauma and Dissociation in Bodily Self-Harm (eating disorders,
>>>>>>> self-mutilation), based on the papers I was invited to present
>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>> APA's National Convention in New Orleans in August and which I
>>>>>>> presented
>>>>>>> at the National Membership Committee on Psychoanalysis in
>>>>>>> Clinical
>>>>>>> Social Work's National conference in Chicago in March. .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sharon Farber
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sharon K. Farber, PhD.
>>>>>>> 142 Edgars Lane
>>>>>>> Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706
>>>>>>> www.Drsharonfarber.com <http://www.Drsharonfarber.com>
>>>>>>>
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