teaching psychodrama at Harvard
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honeybwomn at msn.com
Thu May 10 19:42:59 CDT 2007
I think referring to oneself as a psychodramatist does not necessarily depend on being certified. Perhaps it has more to do with whether or not one identifies as a psychodramatist, has had extensive training, and uses the method fairly consistently in h/her work. But then how do we define "extensive," "using the method," etc.
But there is also the matter about dictating to a person how they should describe themselves. I have met people over the years who referred to themselves as psychodramatists and they were not certified. I hadn't thought then to correct them. Thinking now about it I still wouldn't. Something about that feels inappropriate, for me. I would guess there are different opinions about this. Thoughts anyone?
Patti
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Dear Eric Lindblom, I think I met you on a couple of occasions at ASGPP conferences maybe 10 - 20 years ago. Might that be true?
It was good to hear about your continuing movement toward the field. Would you be willing to share your class syllabus? What readings will you be recommending? What class, exactly, will this be? In what department?
Although you have a good deal of psychodrama training, I asked you not to put yourself forward as primarily a psychodramatist because that has been the policy of the Board of Examiners and, I thought, the consensus of thinking of the ASGPP. (Since you mentioned my name, I thought this might be an opportunity for me to double-check my understanding with the general readership of Grouptalk. What do y'all think?)
I'm glad to hear that psychodrama is being presented in any academic setting, and of course, Harvard has a good deal of prestige. I hope you'll tell us about your experiences.
(Many questions come to mind, such as: will it be aimed at psychotherapists? will it be more sociodramatic? What would be the aspects that you might not teach? Which methods will you use? Would you like to know about others in your area whom you might call on either as guests, temporary presenters to your class, or consultants?)
Best wishes, Adam
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Hi all
Re: I'm new!!!!!
I am new to the list and wanted to introduce myself. I was invited by Tom Treadwell. I wanted to add to the wonderful things about Zerka. She directed me once about twenty years ago in a psychodramatic baby psychodrama. She is wonderful. She has such a light touch when directing and, at the same time, is very clear. You always know where she is. I love it.
To introduce myself. I am trained for ten years or so by Don Miller, Martin and Chelly Haskell, Doug Warner and Alan Wickersty. I practiced, then, for six years as a psychodrama trainer for The State of Maryland with Rene Clay and Constantine Sackles where I was supervised by Doug Warner. (Alan Blatner asked me if I would not call myself a psychodramatist. That's fine for now.) I've been on a break since 1988 from psychodrama to do some thinking about it. Hey, it took a while!
So now coming back, I am teaching Psychodrama at Harvard University (h2o). My intuitive sense is this shall be quite good.
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Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 07:39:23 -0400
From: Dr Kate Hudgins <drkatetsi at mac.com <mailto:drkatetsi at mac.com>>
Subject: Re: Cultural Conserves Of The Annual Meeting
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YEs, absolutely Zerka is THE best!!!!! I am truly blessed to live
in Cville and see her and other psychodramatists who come to see her
so often. I have NEVER EVER heard her say anything bad about another
human being. She is totally accepting and filled with care for her.
She has taught me how to be with my students, fully accepting and NO
criticism. I believe it is due to Zerka even more than JL who has
brought psychodrama to where we are now.
I look forward to seeing you for the workshop in June at her house.
I will not attend the workshop but a TSM student of mine will be here
and we plan on making a THanksgiving dinner for you all on saturday
night--to celebrate psychodrama family. I wish Zerka could come, but
I know she will be tired after a day of teaching.
Some of my Taiwan and Chinese students came for a workshop with her 2
weekends ago and 2 international psychodramatists came last weekend
and she did a masterful job at both. She is amazing!
See you soon. Tele, Kate
On May 7, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Edward Schreiber wrote:
> Hi Kate,
> Zerka Moreno is the best example in my life
> and I say that honestly - this is about me and my life -
> the best example (besides my own mother) for what
> it means to include people at the table. That Zerka
> has embraced and included me is a gift she has given
> to how many hundreds of people, or thousands?
>
> What an absolute joy for me to meet Guy Taylor again
> at the Conference. He was such an important part of my
> learning about psychodramatic work and his teaching has
> influenced me so profoundly in such positive ways.
> Best,
>
> Ed
>
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Dr Kate Hudgins wrote:
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>> thank you sweetie. I AM Glad to be home. I will go back to
>> Taiwan and CHina from July to November to do TSM work so am truly
>> and absolutely enjoying this time. I now have an apartment in
>> Shanghai so that helps. Tele and love to you, kate
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From: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com<mailto:adam at blatner.com>>
Subject: economic squeezes
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Dear All,
Re economic stresses in our times: I would suggest that there is a state we might
call "hustling" that operates between prosperity and demoralization. In prosperity, there
is surplus time/energy to build the society, and the sub-societies. The decline of
civilizations comes with a general sense of economic and social decay, and I'm beginning
to think about that.
There are developed countries, and under-developed countries. I've heard about decay,
but haven't been faced with it. I heard about the Great Depression of the 1930s, but it
was over before the morale of the culture could drop.
Decay may be more gradual, involving a longer period of "squeezing" the middle
class. I think that's what is going on, more dramatically in Russia, perhaps, but also in
the USA. People are hustling, busy, feeling stressed, and every encouragement for giving a
bit---who has anything left over to give?
Trillions of dollars are being spent on armaments and the support systems,
salaries, oil, etc. for Iraq. Down the tubes. That money leaves everyone correspondingly
drained. No money left for this and that.
At work, equally tight. No money for psychiatric treatment, or at least, it's
rationed, so the treatment becomes hurried.
Management competence is measured in terms of how many corners you can cut and still
fool others and yourself that you haven't cut quality. but of course you have.
I think this mid-level of decay, hustling, can go on for years. People can still
think of themselves as reasonably prosperous, and the advertisers and media support this
image. Yet they aren't, they need to keep busier to keep up.
I think decay can lead to its own sub-type or component of demoralization, a
hardening, all rationalized. No time, no time. Those other things, hospitality,
reciprocity, answering emails... not important.
If decay continues, it leads to depression, demoralization, helplessness, giving
up. The boundaries may be fuzzy. Perhaps it leads more to desperateness and the
rationalization of immorality, crime, fudging the ethics.
In the hustling stage, there is also increased entitlement. Why can't I get some too?
If some get if free, why can't everything be free. It's my right. (what, after all , is a
"right" but a social agreement?)
(My son has been surprised at the emails he receives: He's developed programs
for teaching people how to get the most out of programs---in his field of desktop
publishing, he's considered a major figure, an expert. But people seem to
resent the not-excessive cost of his instructional programs. Most interesting.)
Indeed, my son read the above and wrote: I think you're quite right. There has been
a radical change in how we function. Most of my colleagues simply expect to work 2 or 3
people's jobs. Many people I know in management positions are now forced to fly economy
class at all times, including frequent trips to Asia, Europe, etc., then just sigh and say
what can be done, as the budgets have been slashed, even in economic boon. Everyone I know
is exhausted.
A friend of mine nearing 80 noted one of the most interesting changes over even the
past 30 or 40 years is that hardly anyone has time to read the newspaper anymore. He said
that even the most stressed out, overworked person would still have time to read the
paper. No longer. Too much hustle.
Hustling at 36,000 feet on my way to a conference in Chicago, David> Blatner
What might be your thoughts on this? -- Warmly, Adam
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Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:08:30 -0400
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