aristotele

[Adam Blatner]

Re Aristotele: A rich topic indeed: It hints at a variety of other permutations and types 
of tele, and the relevance of many of these dynamics in everyday life, sociology, etc. For 
instance: I might seek to be on good terms or known by or friends with X because she is 
tight with Y, who is an acknowledged leader or celebrity. That would keep me closer to the 
"in" group.
        So when and in what situations might that dynamic become a problem? How does 
knowing about aristo-tele as a concept help understand or deal constructively with this 
dynamic if it were a problem, or threatening to become one?
          What kinds of problems spin off from aristo-tele?
                  When might using this dynamic be politically shrewd?  If I were a 
lobbyist? If I were a congressman with ambition, trying to build my profile in Washington, 
DC  ?    What might be some ways to do this that were indeed clever, and what ways might 
be counter-productive?
         I'm just trying to warm up to the question, and evoke some associations from 
others reading this?
                        Warmly, Adam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Farnsworth" <johnf at earthlight.co.nz>
To: <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: aristotele


> In response to Ann's very interesting question about aristotele (a term new to me) it 
> struck me, after some thought, that this is a very common phenomenon, particularly in 
> some circles.
>
> If I've understood her description correctly then one simple instance is in 
> name-dropping. I have an acquaintance, for instance, who often lets me know of the 
> powerful, famous or influential people he knows. He does actually appear to know some of 
> them (so, it's more than an apparent connection). However, it also raises the question 
> of *how* he knows them, and I can only (very occasionally) assess this for myself if I 
> am in a position to observe a reciprocal interaction. Sometimes, for instance, it's 
> quite a deferential relationship. In other words, only then can I get a clearer idea of 
> their role relations.
>
> This is a very simple example but I hope it helps to generate more discussion.
>
> John Farnsworth
>
>> I wonder if we might have a discussion of aristotele here on
>> grouptalk.  Specifically, I am thinking of a discussion of
>> sociometric status which is ascribed to a person due to their
>> connection, or apparent connection to another person who has a
>> higher or more stable sociometric status.  I think the converse is
>> also true. (Guilt by association, for example)  Sociometric
>> positions are rarely "fixed" and depend upon reciprocity, group
>> role repertoire, etc; however, there are some persons who become
>> fixed in their position until some event provides the opportunity
>> for persons to examine their sociometric choices on a new set of
>> criteria.  What I hope could come from a discussion like this is a
>> clearer picture of de-personalization which seems to be present in
>> the aristotelic-based connection.  Ann Hale
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