Spam Scam accessing ASGPP

Adam Blatner adam at blatner.com
Wed May 30 08:46:19 CDT 2007 

Is there some way to monitor the forum so that this doesn't happen?
       I was also approached by one of those Nigerian scams---through the forum, 
apparently. Warmly, Adam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CGayle" <cgayle at zipcon.com>
To: "georgia rigg" <georgiaarigg at yahoo.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Cc: "ASGPP" <asgpp at asgpp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:52 PM
Subject: Spam Scam accessing ASGPP


>I received the same thing.  Someone has accessed ASGPP and using addresses
> to send a scam.
>
> Cynthia
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "georgia rigg" <georgiaarigg at yahoo.com>
> To: "CGayle" <cgayle at zipcon.com>; <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:11 PM
> Subject: Re: aristotele
>
>
>> Thank you Cynthia, for giving me a way to respond to
>> something that has nothing to do with aristotele.  I
>> just received an e-mail from
>> g_j01986 at yahoo.com--saying it was sent from the ASGPP
>> forum--it was a "fortune in Africa waiting for me"
>> message, and I opened it thinking it was a legitimate
>> message from the forum.  I am startled that this could
>> leak through in this way, and want to give a "head's
>> up" to everyone in this and the other forum.  Georgia
>> Rigg
>> --- CGayle <cgayle at zipcon.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I thought Aristotele was not about who one knows but
>> > more about "the power behind the throne".  Perhaps
>> > like a secretary or administrator who is really
>> > running the affairs of his boss. Or a queen who
>> > really runs the kingdom behind the figure head king.
>> > Cynthia Gayle
>> > Seattle
>> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >   From: E L
>> >   To: list at grouptalkweb.org
>> >   Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:29 AM
>> >   Subject: Eric Lindblom
>> >
>> >
>> >   Group
>> >
>> >   I've dropped a name, Victor Jara.. Is that
>> > Aristotele? Just knowing about Victor Jara enriches
>> > my life but does not make me any better a person
>> > than I am now. How about that? In that way, does
>> > Aristotele work or not? I so, how? Eric
>> >
>> >
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>> >       1. aristotele (Adam Blatner)
>> >       2. Chile (E L)
>> >
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>> >     Message: 1
>> >     Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 14:41:14 -0500
>> >     From: "Adam Blatner" < adam at blatner.com>
>> >     Subject: aristotele
>> >     To: <johnf at earthlight.co.nz>
>> >     Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>> >
>> >     Re Aristotele: A rich topic indeed: It hints at
>> > a variety of other permutations and types
>> >     of tele, and the relevance of many of these
>> > dynamics in everyday life, sociology, etc. For
>> >     instance: I might seek to be on good terms or
>> > known by or friends with X because she is
>> >     tight with Y, who is an acknowledged leader or
>> > celebrity. That would keep me closer to the
>> >     "in" group.
>> >            So when and in what situations might that
>> > dynamic become a problem? How does
>> >     knowing about aristo-tele as a concept help
>> > understand or deal constructively with this
>> >     dynamic if it were a problem, or threatening to
>> > become one?
>> >              What kinds of problems spin off from
>> > aristo-tele?
>> >                      When might using this dynamic
>> > be politically shrewd?  If I were a
>> >     lobbyist? If I were a congressman with ambition,
>> > trying to build my profile in Washington,
>> >     DC  ?    What might be some ways to do this that
>> > were indeed clever, and what ways might
>> >     be counter-productive?
>> >             I'm just trying to warm up to the
>> > question, and evoke some associations from
>> >     others reading this?
>> >                            Warmly, Adam
>> >     ----- Original Message -----
>> >     From: "John Farnsworth" <johnf at earthlight.co.nz>
>> >     To: < list at grouptalkweb.org>
>> >     Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 3:55 PM
>> >     Subject: Re: aristotele
>> >
>> >
>> >     > In response to Ann's very interesting question
>> > about aristotele (a term new to me) it
>> >     > struck me, after some thought, that this is a
>> > very common phenomenon, particularly in
>> >     > some circles.
>> >     >
>> >     > If I've understood her description correctly
>> > then one simple instance is in
>> >     > name-dropping. I have an acquaintance, for
>> > instance, who often lets me know of the
>> >     > powerful, famous or influential people he
>> > knows. He does actually appear to know some of
>> >     > them (so, it's more than an apparent
>> > connection). However, it also raises the question
>> >     > of *how* he knows them, and I can only (very
>> > occasionally) assess this for myself if I
>> >     > am in a position to observe a reciprocal
>> > interaction. Sometimes, for instance, it's
>> >     > quite a deferential relationship. In other
>> > words, only then can I get a clearer idea of
>> >     > their role relations.
>> >     >
>> >     > This is a very simple example but I hope it
>> > helps to generate more discussion.
>> >     >
>> >     > John Farnsworth
>> >     >
>> >     >> I wonder if we might have a discussion of
>> > aristotele here on
>> >     >> grouptalk.  Specifically, I am thinking of a
>> > discussion of
>> >     >> sociometric status which is ascribed to a
>> > person due to their
>> >     >> connection, or apparent connection to another
>> > person who has a
>> >     >> higher or more stable sociometric status.  I
>> > think the converse is
>> >     >> also true. (Guilt by association, for
>> > example)  Sociometric
>> >     >> positions are rarely "fixed" and depend upon
>> > reciprocity, group
>> >     >> role repertoire, etc; however, there are some
>> > persons who become
>> >     >> fixed in their position until some event
>> > provides the opportunity
>> >     >> for persons to examine their sociometric
>> > choices on a new set of
>> >     >> criteria.  What I hope could come from a
>> > discussion like this is a
>> >     >> clearer picture of de-personalization which
>> > seems to be present in
>> >     >> the aristotelic-based connection.  Ann Hale
>> >     >
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>> >     Message: 2
>> >     Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 14:01:02 -0700
>> >     From: "E L" < elindblom at gmail.com>
>> >     Subject: Chile
>> >     To: list at grouptalkweb.org
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>> >     Jorge
>> >
>> >     I wanted to comment on the violence in Latin
>> > America you mention. My
>> >     experience is with Chile. I've found that even
>> > after twenty five years or
>> >     more that people don't want to talk much less to
>> > reverse roles. The pain
>> >     stretches the human being beyond the capacity to
>> > comprehend. (These people
>> >     are not in psychodrama.)
>> >
>> >     My experience, specifically, is with the friends
>> > of the famous La Nueva
>> >     Cancion Chilena singer and Profesor Victor Jara
>> > who, in 1973, was arrested,
>> >     to_rtured and murdered by unknown agents of the
>> > state and found dumped with
>> >     forty-four bullets in his chest. I met many of
>> > his
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