2008 ASGPP Writers Workshop
Peter Howie
peterhowie at macquariehouse.com.au
Mon Oct 15 18:18:28 CDT 2007
Dear tom,
In Australia writing is an essential part of the learning and evaluation
for trainees at all levels.
This means that trainers need to get wise to the dilemmas of writing for
trainees and have gone through their own traumas with their own writing. We
include writing in the curriculum, amongst other reasons, because it can be
such an integrative process. It requires a presentation of thought that
goes deeper then knowing about. It creates or can create a deep learning
process which pays off for the writer and the reader.
I am still working to develop ways to integrate writing more into the
regular curriculum - at present we write a Social and Cultural Atom paper
and a 7000 - 13000 word thesis and a few other pieces of writing depending
on your psychodramatic focus. The thesis is evaluated by the ANZPA Board of
Examiners or with oversight - their delegates and the other writing is
evaluated by local ANZPA accredited Institutes.
I think that the 12 + years of education have given many people an entirely
warped experience and set of fears as regards writing. Schools often shame
people profoundly around written material. written material is the primary
source of examinable stuff from schools. No wonder really that stuff comes
up when writing and anyone else might read it.
I think writers revert to the stage of the double and really need some
decent effective doubling type assistance to overcome some of this early
stuff which saps conviction, undermines knowingness and confidence and
bring up fears and worries.
Thoughts for now - It is a significant area.
Cheers
Peter Howie
Brisbane, Australia
At 08:28 AM 10/14/2007 -0500, T. Treadwell wrote:
>Writing for any professional journal causes most, if not all, of us to get
>very anxious. Why - it activiates the 'incompetent or defective' schemas
>we all posess. These negative schemas emerge when we 'think' there is a
>'threat of rejection'.
>
>My point is that your thinking processes reflect what most professionals
>think - we just do not admit it to the general public.
>
>On another note -- you say you are 'journal phobic' and my hunch is that
>you just might be 'phobic' to rumors that seem to have engulfed the
>journal. The current editors have been working hard dispelling some of
>these 'old beliefs' that keep on emerging.
>
>We can test this though - I am sure you have a manuscript that perhaps you
>might like to submit for publication? Hopefully so, and i would encourage
>you to send it to me -- i'll go over it and make suggestions, if
>necessary, [usually is something that needs adjustment] and that
>'something' only makes for a better manuscript.
>
>I appreciate your interest in writing and your support in arousing
>interest in writing for the journal. So can i look forward to a
>manuscript from you? Don't worry about what shape it is in - just get it
>to me. You can send it to me either electronically or by snail mail -
>prefer electronic...
>
>ok??/ let me know your thoughts.
>
>tom
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
> > I am going to be selfish here, I don't know any other way I feel drawn to
> > reply other than selfishly.
> > I want to write for the Journal and I am "journal phobic" in some way. I
> > know the reasons, they have to do with my own sense of can I do this for
> > the journal given its recent history of rejecting really great writers and
> > thinkers in our society? I here is the selfish part, John, I feel I want
> > to learn how to write well, for the Journal, and damn it, the Journal
> > needs to flower too, and more writers are needed. So I don't care who
> > does what, John, but I do care that we pull together in the spirit of full
> > inclusion. That said, it would be great to have work done at the
> > conference for writers for our work and our journal. We as a society have
> > a lot to say to the world.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >>From: "T. Treadwell" <ttreadwe at grouptalkweb.org>
> >>Sent: Oct 13, 2007 9:04 AM
> >>To: Midsouthcenter at aol.com
> >>Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >>Subject: Re: 2008 ASGPP Writers Workshop
> >>
> >>Thank you john for taking time to respond to writers workshop. However,
> >>my concern is not with the future of the 'journal' - that is in the hands
> >>of a committee and with Heldref Publishing.
> >>
> >>My concern is helping members write for our journal.
> >>
> >>The workshop you accepted, jackie fowler's, is a good workshop. However,
> >>jackie attended the editor's workshop last year and asked if she could be
> >>helpful - thus we integrated her as a helper in assisting others/members
> >>to write. In brief, i do not think the workshop will meet writing
> >>expectations or needs for a professional journal.
> >>
> >>tomt
> >>
> >>Tom, if part of your concern happens to be having a forum in which to
> >>discuss the future of a "journal" for the Society , then I invite you to
> >>log onto
> >>the Membership Forum of the ASGPP Web , JOC section(Journal Options
> >>Committee)
> >>and enter into dialogue about a future publication. This forum gives us
> >>ample space and time to give the JOC thoughts, concerns and wishes of
> >> the
> >>membership.
> >>>
> >>> Tom and Grouptalk readers:
> >>> I am encouraged by the interest expressed in the writing workshop of
> >>> '07.
> >>> The Workshop Proposal Committee was certainly aware of the success of
> >>> that
> >>> workshop last year and we are excited to have selected Jackie Fowler 's
> >>> submission to present a workshop at the 08 conference dealing with
> >>> developing writing
> >>> skills for any type publication. The conference committee hopes this
> >>> workshop
> >>> will experience the same positive reviews as last year. I believe Ms.
> >>> Fowler
> >>> was recommended by you Tom. Her selection serves the goal of inclusion
> >>> and
> >>> diversity that the conference committee believes is important and we
> >>> hope
> >>> satisfies those interested in writing for the new journal of ASGPP or
> >>> any
> >>> other
> >>> publication. I hope that you will sign up for this presentation and
> >>> look
> >>> forward to hearing your response.
> >>> Tom, if part of your concern happens to be having a forum in which to
> >>> discuss the future of a "journal" for the Society , then I invite you
> >>> to
> >>> log onto
> >>> the Membership Forum of the ASGPP Web , JOC section(Journal Options
> >>> Committee)
> >>> and enter into dialogue about a future publication. This forum gives
> >>> us
> >>> ample space and time to give the JOC thoughts, concerns and wishes of
> >>> the
> >>> membership.
> >>> I close by thanking Ann Hale for her comments and reiterate how
> >>> challenging
> >>> it can be to create a conference where all needs are met .
> >>> Peace,
> >>> John Rasberry,M.Ed,LMFT,TEP
> >>> President
> >>> ASGPP
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 10/10/2007 9:17:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> >>> ttreadwe at grouptalkweb.org writes:
> >>>
> >>> Writers Workshop Not Accepted --
> >>>
> >>> The executive editors submitted a writers workshop proposal, based on
> >>> the
> >>> writing model used at the 2007 ASGPP conference, to be presented at
> >>> the
> >>> 2008 ASGPP conference. We have heard positive comments on how the
> >>> workshop was received thus we submitted another proposal.
> >>>
> >>> The conference committee informed us that the workshop was not
> >>> accepted
> >>> due to lack of space. Last year we developed a writers’ circle
> >>> made up
> >>> of
> >>> persons who were interested in helping members write. The
> >>> writers’
> >>> circle
> >>> is made up of professionals who are not part of the executive
> >>> editorial
> >>> staff.
> >>>
> >>> What is confuses us is writing for one's discipline is critical to
> >>> keep
> >>> any professionalism in an acceptable light, both practical/applied and
> >>> research. By not having such a workshop limits us in a big way - we
> >>> cannot talk and discuss with members, writing difficulties and
> >>> successes,
> >>> and as a result we handicap our membership thus demoting our
> >>> discipline.
> >>>
> >>> I had one of my workshops accepted yet i would be willing to give that
> >>> slot up for the writers’ workshop. [I think the writing workshop
> >>> is
> >>> more
> >>> important].
> >>>
> >>> However, I would appreciate feedback from the listserv regarding their
> >>> impression of having or not having a writer’s workshop.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thomas Treadwell CompSoc - GraphPlot Computerized
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> >>
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