Medications, etc.

Mon Sep 10 15:40:21 CDT 2007

Thanks, Rebecca.  I think the shocker in all of that,
for me, was that the "old docs" did not see
psychodrama as something they wanted to try
themselves, but the results were so positive that they
were content to have one more process added to the
program.  It was the new ones, who were unimpressed
with a method they had not even seen--and would not
think of sitting in on in order to actually see what
took place.  You know I'm a social worker, so I could
offer family therapy to the program--for a time, we
had some stuff going there that was valued by the
community at large.  Heavy sigh.  Now, I'm trying to
find ways in a new location to show people in agencies
the usefulness and power of the combination of
psychodrama and psychomotor therapy.  I have some
sense of optimism about this.  I do miss working with
adolescents.  Georgia
--- HV Psychodrama <hvpi at hvc.rr.com> wrote:

> Dear Georgia,
> I think we can all agree that there are some
> patients for whom medications 
> has been a real life saver...I haven't seen someone
> with waxy catatonia or 
> prolonged major vegetative signs of depression in
> decades. Also there are 
> those kids for whom Ritalin is the difference
> between living a productive 
> and functioning life, and not.
>   But is so many of the rest, well your letter says
> it all. But 
> psychodramatists are not alone in being
> concerned...I think many non medical 
> therapists as well as some really fine MDs I know
> are concerned.
> I did a grand rounds for the psychiatric services at
> St Luke's Roosevelt 
> Hospitals Addictions Center...several old time
> psychiatrists came up to me 
> to comment on having known Dr Moreno. The new ones
> has never even heard of 
> family sculpting or putting anything into action.
> They were amazed....So 
> sad...
> Rebecca
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "georgia rigg" <georgiaarigg at yahoo.com>
> To: "Karen Carnabucci"
> <karen at companionsinhealing.com>; 
> <list at grouptalkweb.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Medications, etc.
> 
> 
> > Monday--I told myself to stay out of this one,
> because
> > my own feelings about psychiatrists and
> medications
> > are pretty raw.  In the psych hospital where I
> worked,
> > the "old doctors" admired psychodrama, my use of
> John
> > Mosher's Healing Circle, and my attempts to help
> the
> > clients create therapeutic communities--the adult
> > clients wanted into the psychodrama group and my
> > therapy group, the adolescents got it and did
> great
> > with psychodrama and the Healing Circle, and then,
> the
> > new, just out of residency "baby docs" came on
> board.
> > In a short time, I was threated with firing if I
> > didn't stop psychodrama, and forget therapeutic
> > communities.  Empowered and supported patients
> > question things--like just what does this
> medication
> > do anyway?  The old doctors were shoved out, and I
> was
> > assigned to create a new program for the folks who
> > were morbidly obese, and who wanted the gastric
> bypass
> > or lap band surgeries.  I have, by the way, a
> "state
> > of the art" program for the surgery folks.  So
> what am
> > I saying.  There were doctors present who really
> cared
> > about the clients as people, and who tried to help
> > them get the services they needed.  And then,
> there
> > were the others.  I agree that often, too often,
> these
> > are the ones who don't think of the social
> situation,
> > and other avenues of service--just which of the
> meds
> > will be the one to use today.  And fair is
> fair--I've
> > been around a long time; pre-medication, life was
> > often impossible for many people.  So, maybe this
> is a
> > good discussion topic for the ASGPP conference?
> > Georgia Rigg, TEP
> > --- Karen Carnabucci
> <karen at companionsinhealing.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Here's another one -- I go to a presentation by a
> >> psychiatrist who is
> >> presenting topic at a local hospital about
> working
> >> with children. The
> >> Dr. is talking about school phobia and the best
> and
> >> most useful
> >> medications to prescribe for the condition.
> >>
> >> All I can think of is one of my younger teen
> clients
> >> who hates going to
> >> school, and has played sick, due to the fact that
> he
> >> his being horribly
> >> bullied by two kids at school. I ask the dr. if
> he
> >> aware that some kids
> >> might have really good reasons to fear going to
> >> school -- such as being
> >> hurt by a bully or otherwise threatened with
> harm.
> >> His face and body
> >> language expresses clear surprise and he says,
> "Oh,
> >> I hadn't thought of
> >> that."
> >>
> >> And I think he really meant  it!!!
> >>
> >> Karen Carnabucci, MSS, LCSW, TEP
> >> Companions In Healing
> >>
> >> Lake House Health &  Learning Center
> >> 932 Lake Ave.
> >> Racine, WI 53403
> >>
> >> (262) 633-2645
> >> karen at companionsinhealing.com
> >> <mailto:karen at companionsinhealing.com>
> >>
> >> www.lakehousecenter.com
> >> <http://www.lakehousecenter.com/>
> >> www.companionsinhealing.com
> >> <http://www.companionsinhealing.com/>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> From: list-bounces at grouptalkweb.org
> >> [mailto:list-bounces at grouptalkweb.org] On Behalf
> Of
> >> PATRICIA DESERT
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 2:38 PM
> >> To: GrouptalkNewAddress
> >> Subject: Re: sociatry91007
> >>
> >>
> >> One most recent specific.  A former client of
> mine
> >> called me for some
> >> advice about his 12 yr old son who recently began
> >> having close to panic
> >> attacks when anticipating attending school.  He
> >> needs his dad to
> >> accompany him at this point and his dad does.
> >>
> >> This boy has a bar mitzvah coming up next month,
> his
> >> dear friend who is
> >> also his sister just left for Israel, the school
> >> he's in just began a
> >> new policy of bell ringing to signal end of class
> >> and the new 2-minutes
> >> requirement required to get to next class, and
> some
> >> other stressors that
> >> I can't remember right this minute.  The
> >> psychiatrist who spoke to the
> >> father on the phone about this boy immediately
> >> wanted to put him on
> >> medication.
> >>
> >> I like to think this psychiatrist is the
> exception.
> >> P.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>
> >> From: HV Psychodrama <mailto:hvpi at hvc.rr.com>
> >> To: Adam Blatner <mailto:adam at blatner.com>
> >> Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 12:39 PM
> >> Subject: Re: sociatry91007
> >>
> >> dear Adam/ You want specifics and I do not have
> the
> >> energy to
> >> write
> >> them....you are welcome to call me and we can
> have
> >> a
> >> conversation...but I
> >> suspect that anyone working in the trenches these
> >> days, as you
> >> once referred
> >> to my work, could come up with many examples of
> >> kids being
> 
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