The soul of Morenian work - comments - List Digest, Vol 19, Issue 6

Sat Jan 5 15:20:53 CST 2008

Re: The soul of Morenian work - comments by Anne - List Digest, Vol  
19, Issue 6

Bud (Barnet(t Weiss) I was interrested in what you write :
"Soul speaks in terms of vision, feelings, insight and intuition,  
therefore, it is difficult to put soul into words...
the problem has been how to have soul and ego communicate and stay in  
alignment.
" I think that we are all involved in our own ways in doing this and  
that Moreno was certainly the visionary leader.

" - As Einsteins said
" The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a  
faithful servant.
" We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten  
the gift. Einstein"

  It has become difficult to dare to speak of Soul and it was a very  
important ingredian in JL's Moreno work and vision -
God was peresent, the Creator was present, the deep change was present-
and the Soul was just non me ntionned in woprds as such, but present  
all the time , "under" in a way -

I wonder also,if our discussion 	and vision of Moreno's work could  
not be enlarged
or improved if we take a good look on/in the recent collective book  
on the essential
about Psychodrama and Moreno : in
"Psychodrama, advances in Theory and Practice", Routledge (GB & usa),  
July 2007,

  best of best
warmly and all my best whishes for the New Year 2008, just starting
Anne - Saturday January 5, 2008 ..
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   2. Re: The Soul of Morenian Work (BARNETT  (Bud) WEISS)
>    3. Re: Open Session Guidelines (Adam Blatner)
>    4. Re: The Soul of Morenian Work (edwschreiber at earthlink.net)
>    5. Re: The Soul of Morenian Work (edwschreiber at earthlink.net)
>    6. Re:  The Soul of Morenian Work (Connie Miller)
>    7. Re: The Soul of Morenian Work (Edward Schreiber)
>    8. assumptions and attitudes (Adam Blatner)
>    9. Psychodrama training Jan. 12 in Racine, Wis. (Karen Carnabucci)
>   10. Re: assumptions and attitudes (Adam Blatner)
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Message: 2 -Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:52:51 -0800 (PST)
From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: The Soul of Morenian Work
To: connie at souldrama.com, Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>,	
CGayle <cgayle at zipcon.com>, list at grouptalkweb.org - Cc: SaphiraL at AOL.COM

Dear Connie:
  I do think that your contribution through your development of Soul  
Drama
has brought the work to a level that simply was not available to Dr.  
Moreno
as that was not a direction he had chosen.
  It was there all the time waiting to be utilized.
Thank you for doing so. Blessings Bud Weiss

Connie Miller <connie at souldrama.com> wrote:
Replying These are valuable contributions Moreno made, and they're  
bigger than just psychodrama. They're about communication and also  
the feelings and attitudes behind a renewed and expanded vision of  
what effective and constructive communication can be.

  Happy New Year to all.
  I am enjoying the discussion and I am now hooked in with the word  
soul.
Soul speaks in terms of vision, feelings, insight and intuition,  
therefore, it is difficult to put soul into words...
the problem has been how to have soul and ego communicate and stay in  
alignment.
  I think that we are all involved in our own ways in doing this and  
that Moreno was certainly the visionary leader.
As Einsteins said
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a  
faithful servant.
We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten  
the gift. Einstein

  Souldrama is merely trying to give some structure to psychodrama by  
openiing seven doors to spiritual transformation using psychodrama.
Who was it who said  "We all sit  in a circle and suppose and the  
secret sits in the center and knows?"

   Anyone know?
  Blessings
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-- Original Message --   From: CGayle  - To: list at grouptalkweb.org -   
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:13 PM
   Subject: Re: Moreno a kabbalist?

  I have found more connections w/ Moreno's writings when I started
to read classical/traditional Jewish and Kabbalah sources
(which is only tip of surface b/c has to be what has been translated)
vs modern texts on Judaism and Kabbalah.
I have been studying Torah in Orthodox circles the last year and one- 
half.
Has taken my learning, and challenged/inspired my learning,
on a much different level...a quantum leap?
It's been an interesting journey...which feeds my soul deeply...
.yet socially challenging.
People are very welcoming, yet talk about lack of tele!
   Cynthia Gayle
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---Message: 4 - Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 17:10:42 -0500 (EST)
From: edwschreiber at earthlink.net-Subject: Re: The Soul of Morenian Work
To: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>, connie at souldrama.com, 	Adam
Hi Bud,
Sorry but I have to disagree with your statement below.
Everything I've read (Louise Lipman once gave me the gift of a  
lifetime when she gave me a copy of the 1954 edition of Who Shall  
Survive?)
indicates Moreno know only knew of what you suggested to be a  
direction he had not chosen, but beyond that I read in his work clear  
statements about how to integrate soul and psyche.  It is his work.
And on the other hand, I love how we are taking his ideas and  
creating our lives and our work from his work and his life.  But in  
my study, it's all in Moreno's books.
Best,  -  Ed
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---Original Message- From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net> -  
Sent: Jan 4, 2008 2:52 PM
To: connie at souldrama.com, Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com>, CGayle  
<cgayle at zipcon.com>, list at grouptalkweb.org- Cc: SaphiraL at AOL.COM
Subject: Re: The Soul of Morenian Work

Dear Connie:
  I do think that your contribution through your development of Soul  
Drama has brought the work to a level that simply was not available  
to Dr. Moreno as that was not a direction he had chosen. It was there  
all the time waiting to be utilized. Thank you for doing so.  
Blessings Bud Weiss
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