Fwd: Invite

[Edward Schreiber]

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> From: Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
> Date: January 20, 2008 1:32:34 PM EST
> To: "Adam Blatner" <adam at blatner.com>
> Subject: Re: Invite
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>
>> I did read it in the book, and again online, and I can't figure  
>> out what more specifically we can or should do with these general  
>> ideas.
> Wow, that's so interesting.  I am on the opposite pole!  I see so  
> much that we (I) can do.
>
>> If you, Ed, or any of the others, come up with some specifics, it  
>> may serve to warm me up... the "oh, if that's how they mean it,  
>> maybe then... " leading to some fertility in my mind. Right now I  
>> just don't get it yet.
>
> Here are some of the points that call first to me:
> "It is into the structure of the socius therefore, that a  
> revolutionary effort has to put its teeth if a lasting and true  
> cure of social ills is to be effected."\
>
> There is so much to this statement for me.
> Like:  What structure? And what is the socius that has been  
> throughout history - that we seen now?
> For instance, what is the relationship of this structure and socius  
> to the consumption of the natural world and the collapse of  
> ecosystems?
> And what is the structure and socius - and how does this play  
> itself out in the face of humanity?
> Can we see it?
>
> Here is another line I like:
> "Sociometry has developed two types of instruments, instruments for  
> diagnosing social structures and instruments for changing them. The  
> sociometric test, psychodrama, sociodrama and axiodrama among  
> others can be used for diagnosis as well as for social revolution."
> So, we have these instruments for diagnosis but we don't yet have  
> the fitted for social revolution.
> Do we want to?
> What does social revolution mean, from our tradition of Moreno? I  
> like this from Political Sociometry:
> "Sociometric revolutions do not promise violent and rapid results.  
> They dig deep and their success depends upon a new learning process  
> applied to small groups. Similar to the infant, mankind will mature  
> only step by step and to the degree to which sociometric  
> consciousness will refashion our social institutions, the  
> structural readiness of mankind for a world society will ripen.   
> Many wars and social upheavals will torture its sick body. In this  
> transition the doctor may be more important than the engineer."
>
> So this means that a social revolution can be be sociometric in  
> nature.
> What does this mean for the socius and the structures of society?
> What does this all mean in real life for humanity and the natural  
> world?
> How do we transition sociometry from a diagnostic system to one of  
> social revolution?
> Do we want to do that?
> If so, why?
> If not, why not?
>
> I also like this phrase too: "The dilemma of Marxism can be summed  
> up in one phrase: its ignorance of the dynamic social structure of  
> human society."
>
> And this is the dilemma of our situation too.
>
> Ed
>
>
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