cosmic quote

Edward Schreiber edwschreiber at earthlink.net
Mon Jan 21 17:24:47 CST 2008


Where did Moreno talk about cosmology in its physical form?
The social atom,
Tele,
Sociometry,
Psychodrama,
FIrst-Second Universe,
Role Theory
to beginwith.




On Jan 21, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:

> Responding to this: "In the course of epic events, matter was  
> distilled out of radiant energy, segregated into galaxies,  
> collapsed into stars, fused into atoms, swirled into planets,  
> spliced into molecules, captured into cells, mutated into species,  
> compromised into thought, and cajoled into cultures. All of this  
> (and much more) is what matter has done as systems upon systems of  
> organization have emerged over thirteen billion years of creative  
> natural history." — Loyal Rue, philosopher at Loyola College
>
>        AB: So what is Morenean about it?
>      And why is consciousness evolution "compromised" into thought  
> (choice of words here... )
>              or "cajoled" into cultures?
>                              It implies... what? thought is a  
> compromise? What if it were not compromised... matter is  
> compromised?   funny word.. I don't mind poetic---some of those  
> lines are neat--- but what are the implications?
>           If matter were not cajoled into cultures, but birthed  
> into cultures... would that change the sense of the poem, and in  
> what ways?
>
>    Finally, Ed finishes by saying, "very much Moreanean in my view."
>        AB: Really? Where did Moreno talk about cosmology in its  
> physical form? Had he registered in his mind the theory of the Big  
> Bang? I don't recall reading that---much less the "new story" of  
> evolution and meaning that Brian Swimme and many others have been  
> touting. I like this general story and its ideas... but why call it  
> Morenian?
>         Oh, I can imagine one reason: Any poetic creation story  
> could be imagined as being "morenian."
>
>     But when everything is covered in a category, then what is the  
> value of that category or word? If Morenian refers to anything that  
> resonates with the idea of creativity, ... it sort of implies that  
> Moreno was the only one or the first one who thought of it (?). ..  
> or why bring it up?
>
>        Warmly, Adam
>

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