andrew cohen's quote

[Kim Cox]

Hi Ed,

I just read through the dialogue/debate that you and Adam have been having
recently, and I just want to add my 2 cents worth. Note, these are my
thoughts only, I am not speaking for anyone else on this listserv, but would
invite others to share their thoughts as well.

Particularly after I read your response below, I was reminded of our
previous exchanges, and I think role reversals would be ideal here.

I understand, especially after attending just a couple of your workshops on
your new curriculum, that you have a lot of energy and that you are in
"drastic" mode in regards to what's happening to our Earth. I applaud your
passion, love, and energy, and admire how much you want to make a difference
in this world.

What I hope you can understand is that:

(1) It is difficult to "grasp" or understand your e-mails on this subject
because they are overloaded with emotion and "heady" writing; thus, instead
of a clear understanding I am left with only a "tease" of your ideas (we've
talked about writing e-mail vs. showing in action).

(2) Especially after reading your response below, it's become even more
apparent to me that your attempted dialogue/debate in e-mails like this one
creates what I would call "accountable energy" - as if I need to be
accountable to you and your questions/demands of what I SHOULD be doing in
my psychodramatic work/life). This imposed accountability does not, in my
opinion, inspire me to want to continue to read what you write or
dialogue/debate. This kind of energy reminds me personally of when I first
got very involved in the Christian faith and then when I was so energized by
my relationship with God, I was met with some Christians who felt that I
wasn't being Christian enough in my beliefs, not like them.

(3) Finally, a thought about the fear discussion. I feel like there are
enough people in superior positions (i.e. government) that are trying to
keep our society in a state of fear. As a result, fear can be more of a
paralysis. Having more of this type of superior "fear" energy added to it
does not help move me into action. In regards to our society, I personally
have more concerns around the hate groups growing in the U.S. than I do of
the ice caps melting (I find more accurate information in the research of
hate groups rather than the global warming studies). It's different for
everyone.

Ed, you know I respect you for your thoughts and feelings, I just ask for
your respect for mine and others if we are not ready to jump into your boat
without looking back (I may need to go for a swim first and I may never get
in the boat). Something to think about with the listserv communications.

Warm regards,

Kim





On Jan 21, 2008 6:06 PM, Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> I love this last line from you Adam, "Fear-based thinking, as I have said,
> and others, also, can overload the circuits and while some are driven into
> avoidance, denial, distraction, others are driven into fanaticism, the sense
> that drastic steps must be taken---and fall prey to any passing demagogue.
>
>
> And that's my point!  We are living with fear based thinking, being
> introduced for who knows what reasons (control of resources perhaps) and we
> are
>
> living in a culture of denial, distraction and fanaticsm, the sense for
> drastic steps must be taken..."
>
> Well Adam, no drastic steps have to be taken for you maybe.
> But what about the rest of the world?
>
> Have you read "any" reports of late about the state of the environment?
>  Is that "drastic" to you?  Do you feel "drastic steps" are needed,
> or shall we let it all slide away?   Is your status as a white, MD,
> American in any way related to your sense of the issues at hand, related
> in particular to the (assumed) non-drastic steps we can take our leisure?
>   I would be the 140 species per day going extinct would possibly
> consider this drastic, if they had a voice, or if we could hear them.  Or
> how about the sliding ice caps in the arctic Adam?  Is that okay?  Well,
> it might impact the poor black and brown people living in coastal
> communities, but well, is that drastic?
>
> I agree:  it is fear based, fanatic, denial, distraction that I am
> suggesting we face - not suggesting anything other than we honestly face the
> urgency. Oh, probably Al Gore is wrong, probably the 2089 scientists
> calling this an emergency are wrong, perhaps our food shelves will for
> awhile stay full as long as we can secure the oil we need to keep this
> insanity going.  But it's not an emergency, it sounds, to you, given the
> fact that as you once told me, you may be long gone before the next
> generation must deal with this.  What does that imply?
>
> Ed
>
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