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[Peter Howie]

Hi Ed and Adam,

A few years ago I was in a talk by a presenter at an award and he was 
talking about certain whole-world hard systems ideas.He mentioned a 
researcher that would only discuss his work if a group gave him 7 full days 
to present his work. because it was hard, complicated, required a minimal 
understanding of mathematics and he didn't want people translating his 
findings and perspectives into their own.

I thought that was a gutsy effort (to insist and also believe the work 
warranted it) and apparently they all stayed, and they learned and they 
were effected - they -being politicians and policy makers - the work being 
about positive and negative feedback loops in the larger world systems.

Cheers

Peter





  At 07:07 AM 1/20/2008 -0500, Edward Schreiber wrote:
>I will present (as best I am able) JL Moreno's thesis about society
>and sociatry (not my own).
>Sorry Adam, his thesis requires much attention and so we have decided
>to take it on the road beginning with San Antonio.
>Regarding dire warnings: are you reading the news?  Even the
>corporate dominated news is leaking the collapse.
>Ed
>
>
>
>On Jan 19, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
>
> > Hi again, writing from the library:
> >   ES the point is that the material deserves a few hours of
> > attention, not here.
> > AB: my point is that unless a thesis can be presented in coherent
> > rational style, I can't readily address it. It might be buried in
> > all manner of verbal and nonverbal complexification, plus the
> > complexities of group dynamics. That might be okay for certain
> > kinds of issues, but I am not yet convinced that you have come up
> > with anything specific that can be talked about. So far all I've
> > heard are platitudes, noble aspirations, and dire warnings.
> >      Not that I can know whether you're "wrong," but all I can say
> > is that isn't the way my mind and conversation works best. Warmly,
> > adam
>
>
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