subtle oppresion

[Anna Schaum]

Wow, less than 24 hours later, and the responses!

Thanks all who have written or replied back for the simmering  
reception to my anecdote and query re the grouptalk conserve.

Anna Schaum




On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Adam Blatner wrote:

> The email that Bud is alluding to in his last re-sending of his  
> mail  is below.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BARNETT WEISS
> To: Adam Blatner
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:46 AM
> Subject: Re: subtle oppresion
>
> Sorry I didn't read all the posts prior to my sending mine. I think  
> I'll rewrite it acknowledging your point which is basically the same  
> as mine with a slight addition. THanks Adam. Bud
>
> Adam Blatner <ablatner at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Bud, shall this go also to grouptalk or did you want it back- 
> channeled just between ourselves?
>
>     1. Boys choosing to be with a girl age 9 -- and judged  
> negatively by peers--
>           2. A misegenating couple in the South circa 1921...
>               3. A Jew criticizing Israel --
>           4. (Cinthia's example) a woman leaving a secure job to  
> explore other life paths -- and reactions by friends...
>
>         Peer pressure in general... is this oppression?
>                 On thinking about it, I think not, because
>          The one in the minority is aware of the rule and is  
> choosing to break it
>                The ones in the seeming majority are aware of the  
> rule and are disagreeing with the minority person
>                        With varying degrees of opprobrium, from  
> sociometric choice away to violent retribution
>
>                These are not uncommon dramas in life, and to the  
> extent that we sympathize with the relative isolate (from the  
> outside) we feel that the majority is unfair. There's a tendency to  
> use all kinds of psychobabble or sociobabble jargon to characterize  
> this.
>
>           Is it oppression for us to reject those who we view as  
> more flagrantly antisocial
>                    Neo-Nazis
>                       Serial killers with cannibalistic tendencies
>                           Child sexual predators moving into our  
> neighborhood?
>
>
>        I think oppression might better be reserved for systems in  
> which both oppressors, oppressed, and those not affected are caught  
> up in common assumptions, and it is difficult to find the words to  
> identify the problem. (What do you mean, there's a problem? What  
> problem?)
>             But I'm still exploring.
>                    Thanks for exploring with me. Warmly, Adam
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Anna Schaum, MA, LPC
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