Anath Garber to Anne Schutzenberger [ reaction to Anath & Anna Schaum -subtle opression / List Digest, Vol 25, Issue 18
Ann Hale
annehale at swva.net
Sun Jul 20 19:18:14 CDT 2008
Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger received the American Society of Group Psychotherapy and Psychodrama's highest award, the J. L. Moreno Lifetime Achievement Award in 1992. Not resting on her laurels, she has spent a further 16 years writing and adding to the her many contributions to the field. Hooray for you. Ann Hale
----- Original Message -----
From: Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger
To: thana ag
Cc: Schutzenberger Anne ; Grouptalk Grouptalk Tom TREADWELL(2006) ; BAIM Clark ; SACKS James ; HALE Ann ; Patti ; AZAIS JPA Jean-Philippe
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: Anath Garber to Anne Schutzenberger [ reaction to Anath & Anna Schaum -subtle opression / List Digest, Vol 25, Issue 18
Re: Anath Garber [than ag] to Anne Schutzenberger
[ reaction to Anath & Anna Schaum -subtle opression
/ [[ List Digest, Vol 25, Issue 18]]
Dear Anath; . Anath Garber(NY) = than ag
Nice to hear from you personnaly, directly, again.-
Yes, of course,many of us do opress ourselves by not daring
(which is not my case).
And ,NO, do not appologize about your relations with me :
- I have always liked you -(since many, many years (about 30 or more)
- and I have always felt that you like me = so, no problems, never-
and I do not feel unrecognized for my work for psychodrama,
having received many internamtional and american awards-
and been named honorary archivist by IAGP-
as they all know that I am one of the few to have been
in this field since "always" and often in key position-
Nevertheless, when american (= usa) psychodramatists
make a collective book of anthology, they do not ask me to join in -
- and if I am in an international book on Psychodrama,
"Psychodrama, Advances in Theory and Practice", London, Routledge, July 2007.
it is because the editors were all European -
and when I answer to groutalk, there is generally NO reaction
(yours is an exception) - so I feel that by not beeing American or Australian
but an outsider from France and Europe, - or
by not writing in each issue or each week, or only seldom =
I do not exist for american coillegues psychodramatists-
and I do not feel not recogniozed, as I have become a best-seller;
with more than 500.000 copies sold of my famous book
"The Ancestor syndrome" (Routledge) - and its original French "Aie, mes Aieux!"
(in which, of course, I speak of psychodrama) -
-which is an amazing success, and probably more than any
american book about psychodrama or what ever on group work has sold
- and seems to show that what I write usually do interrest people
(as they buy my book - and buy it in many countries, - excepts in usa -
but in usa, my dear collegues psychodramatists who write often on grouptalk
or write books - never quote me nor seems to think or at least say publicly
that what I do, invent or write is interresting = so ...
- So... feeling of "subtle opression" by american psychodramatists (from USA )
and as I have never had any publicity except "by words of the mouth" ,
SO, if my well known collegues psychodratists do not speak of me,
nobody in USA could guess and order my books in English
(published in England, but available on internet,of course, Amazon ...
I am an old timer now - and with a very interresting life and many publications
(Jim Sacs told me recently that I am the most prolific writer on his list
in psychodrama);
SO ... enough ... and good night
Be well
warmly
best of best
anne
Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger, PhD,TEP
University Professor, PhD,TEP,group-analyst
transgenerational analyst
co-Founder and actual Honorzry Archivist IAGP
and organizer of the First International Psychodrama Congress (Paris,France,1964)
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anne.schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr
http://www.psychogenealogie.name
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Le 20 juil. 08 à 01:45, thana ag a écrit :
Dear Anne,
Thanks for your response. Sorry for the delay in answering.
What I meant in "subtle oppression" -was the extent to which we oppress ourselves by our perceptions of what others expect of us, or by our not verbalized expectations of what we expect of others: how they should treat us,behave etc. . .
SO if my expectations are that i will be treated certain way b/c of my age,professional status or the lack of it - I may feel rejected ,misunderstood,obliterated. if my expectations are not fulfilled. Even though in "reality" no one obliterated me,rejected me ,did not show me respect. For them my "reality" does not exist.
I like Anna's email, ,which let us know that she "excluded" herself from active participation.,and her request to be acknowledged even by just pressing "response" button. This way we cwere able to welcome her. Also it clarified for others that list serve is not only for certified psychodramatists.
Anne: If in our many years of acquintanceship and later friendship I failed to understand you, mirrorr you properly, etc -
I apologize .
For me you have always been this incredibly bright, charming, insightful, uber intuitive, and exquisitely sensitive person, whose wisdom I cherish.
You have done so much for the world of Psychodrama -which undoubtedly is not recognized enough,
But so is Moreno's work. Not that it is a consolation.
xoxo.
anath
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From: anne.schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr
Subject: Re:reaction to Anath & Anna Schaum -subtle opression / List Digest, Vol 25, Issue 18
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:24:12 +0200
To: list at grouptalkweb.org
CC: anne.schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr; info at upstairs.fr
Re:reaction to Anath Garber & Anna Schaum <anna at annaschaum.com>,-subtle opression / List Digest, Vol 25, Issue 18
I have tried to suppress everything but "subtle opression " below -
Dear Anath ..... Anath Garber(usa)Thana ag<anathga at hotmail.com>
You want to know if others have felt "subtle opression" -
I have-
and have suffered many times also of not having a real answer
or not beeing understood, or misregarded,
or treated (maltreated) just as if I do not exist ...
- even on this list sometimes also -
- and many times in my long life -
- especially about what was most important for me-
like facts of my life - that were too surprizing
or too subtle to be understood when I answered
direct questions asked to me
and
usually oppressive and hurting persons do not realize
or understand what they do to others- and to me -
and their verbal talk is always grand humanistic understnding
and they also often lecture to others about what they should do
or think or how good and useful they themselves are to others
... hm =
( "the left hand do not know what the right does" - as we say in French )
or "do as I say", notr as I do - not as these teachers of others do -
- but it hurts- and is a subtle opression
best of best
more later, if asked
anne (89 years old) PhD,TEP
and University professor of Psychology (emeritus)
anne ancelin schutzenberger(France)
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-- Original Message -from Annath Garber (usa) thana ag -
To: REGINA SEWELL ; list at grouptalkweb.org
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: RE: Subtle oppression
Adam,Ann,Regina,
Hmmm. Very interesting.
I just wonder how many on this list serve feel oppressed by their perception that what they have to say will be totally off according to the perceived expectations of what is acceptable. for these discussions. Would one of these presumably oppressed speak up,and help us "walk the talk"? How will we respond?!
anath
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Le 16 juil. 08 à 19:00, list-request at grouptalkweb.org a écrit :
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Today's Topics:
1. feedback on grouptalk (Adam Blatner)
2. Re: subtle oppresion (Adam Blatner)
3. Re: foray (PATRICIA DESERT)
4. Re: foray (Linda Condon)
5. RE: Subtle oppression anecdote (thana ag)
6. Add to Subtle Oppression (BARNETT WEISS)
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Message: 1 - Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:16:46 -0500
From: "Adam Blatner" <ablatner at verizon.net>
Subject: feedback on grouptalk
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----- Original Message -- From: Anna Schaum - MA, LPC
Portland, OR --- on "subtle oppression"
To: Adam Blatner - Cc: thana ag ; list at grouptalkweb.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: Subtle oppression anecdote
Adam, Ann, Ananth, etc.,
This is my first fore' into group talk, though I have been reading threads since I signed up after April's conference.
On "subtle oppression"
it seems to me is the perceived lack of receptivity I feel when I post to any list serve
and get no responses, when I assume at least X number are reading my post.
On line particularly it is easy to read non-receptivity into that feedback loop. Then again, I can rationalize by telling myself that like me, people are busy and overwhelmed with the masses of loops they may/may not be receptive to, and a lack of response is not necessarily a reasonable cause for me to shut down. But in a case where there is not even one response I have to do a lot of self motivating to keep my internal thread alive.
I recently tested this in my community.
We have a list serve here in Oregon for the American Mental Health Alliance-OR,
"a non-profit member owned corporation of mental health professionals committed to the necessity for privacy, confidentiality and integrity in mental health services".
The list serve gets used for a myriad of purposes, most often referral queries and "getting the word out" about professional offerings, and is open to and used "ecumenically" by folks of all therapeutic perspectives and credentialing levels (the minimum is a MA working towards a state licensure).
Last spring there was an issue being addressed in the Oregon legislature by Licensed Professional Counselors who, due to a language loophole and insurance company pressures, do not share parity with LCSWs, PhDs, Nurse Practitoners for payment of services, even though our training and credentialing process is more stringent than some of the NP's and LCSWs'. Curiously, even though this was big news in the papers and other publications for weeks, there was not a peep on the AMHA listserve about it. Presumably because in that conserve we're meant to be working towards integrity in mental health services, but when it comes to who gets paid and who doesn't people tend to go into their look-out -for #-one stance (entitlement/privilege), and get quiet. On the OPA (Oregon Psychological Association) list serve at the same time there was out right lynch mobbing going on by some psychologists who eventually hired lobbyists to kill the bill. Their stance was that LPC's are not qualified to serve the public, etc. etc., even though the facts are clearly in the LPC's favor. It is hard to believe it is not about $.
Anyhow, one night I sat down at the computer and just put it out there to my AMHA colleagues, some of whom I knew in person, most of whom only knew me on the internet: "Hey , it's been awfully quiet around here about this legislation issue. How do people feel? How do you psychologists who are on both listserves feel about me, an LPC?" At the time I was considering spending a big chunk of money to fully join AMHA, and wanted to know exactly whom I would be joining? Were these folks going to be receptive and demonstrate inclusiveness and "integrity," or would they want to shut me down?
The response I got was receptive by the people who replied, and approximately five did ( I believe there are over 75 on the list). One reply was that my question was "brave and refreshing," another explained in detail the long history of this fight in Oregon, another was an explanation of why she does not refer to LPCs (insurance issues), another by a board member/co-founder that there are competent therapists who are licensed and who are not, whether PhD, MA, etc, and that she supports the passing of the parity bill. In this instance there was enough receptivity in the feedback that I decided to join the guild, becoming part of what the AMHA conserve stands for.
It felt like a professional risk for sure to ask the qusetion, and I am glad that there was enough support. I still wonder however about the other 70 unvoiced responses. How many who did not respond did so out of subtle oppression, and how many were just not interested or too busy or have ADD like me to reply. This seems to be a topic for much further inquiry, the "Sociometry of the Internet." Is anyone already onto that?
- So, back to the present......
how do you all feel about a CP candidate chiming in on this list serve?
- I don't really know whether I'm entitled or at the edge to be participating or not, according to the group talk conserve? I don't even know how many of you will get this far in the copy. It would be interesting if, even if you don't provide a written response, that you press "REPLY/SEND" so I have a count of how many actually read through this whole anecdote.
Very best,
Anna Schaum, MA, LPC
Portland, OR --- Just turned in my CP application!
Anna Schaum, MA, LPC
Creative Collaborative Counseling
909 North Beech Street-Suite 201
Portland, OR? 97227
503-282-3800 ? ??www.annaschaum.com
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Message: 2 - Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:22:53 -0500
From: "Adam Blatner" <ablatner at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: subtle oppresion
To: Cinthia Pantale?o <cinthiapanta at hotmail.com>
Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org
Dear Cinthia,
You bring up an interesting question that I hadn't considered. Would the term "oppression" apply? Maybe.
What is it when we want to take a path that many in our social reference group feel is foolish?
Am I oppressing someone if I say,
I think you shouldn't stay with that person who abuses you.
I think that might be a bad investment?
I think your political move is foolish, even if I agree with your general sentiment. It's not the right time.
Perhaps it involves some degree of group pressure, a sense that if you continue in your individualistic choices we will prosecute you in court, testify against you, enslave you, bankrupt you, kill you
or, more mildly, not like you any more, exclude you from our friendships, etc.
And I imagine there being in-between dynamics, more shades of grey.
- Or should oppression be measured by the feelings of one who claims to feel oppressed?
- The problem there is that "oppression" is a meme and once one learns this term i
t's possible to apply it to a variety of phenomena that might otherwise be met with statements of anxiety, fear, sadness, annoyance, etc.
- Well, thank you for the provocative example! Warmly, Adam
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-- Original Message -
From: Cinthia Pantale - To: list at grouptalkweb.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:38 AM
- Subject: subtle oppresion
Dear Anath,
I found very interesting your question about how many in this list serve ever experienced this phenomenon
that you are calling "subtle oppresion".
- I, particularly, have a very recent example of what I thinking you are referring to.
I have been living a dilemma in my life which is related to a very important decision i have to take. I tend to make a certain choice -
- but this would imply to quit my job, which is considered in Brazil everyone?s dream, that is, a well-paid and stable work for brazil?s government, which i can keep for the rest of my life. This job would be the guarantee of a very good upper middle-class life for the rest of my days, ?till i grow up very old. And this is especially relevant in the city where i live, which is the capitol of the country and where everybody wants to find a job position at the goverment.
- But for everybody?s schock, i?m seriously considering to quit the job and risk a season studying overseas, to maybe come back unemployed.
- So, coming back to your point, right now I feel completly oppressed everytime i try to speak up my will, that is following this dream overseas, which is considered completly unaccepted by most of the public opinion here.
I leave here my testimony hoping it will serve as an example for your future researches on this topic
- (and I also hope that i understood right and that this was the kind of statement you were looking for. If it was not and i got it all wrong, my sincere apologies).
Greetings from brazil,
Cinthia
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Original Message - From: thana ag (Anath Garber)
To: REGINA SEWELL ; list at grouptalkweb.org
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: RE: Subtle oppression
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Adam,Ann,Regina,
Hmmm. Very interesting.
I just wonder how many on this list serve feel oppressed by their perception that what they have to say will be totally off according to the perceived expectations of what is acceptable. for these discussions. Would one of these presumably oppressed speak up,and help us "walk the talk"? How will we respond?!
anath
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---From: Regina Sewell sewell.2 at osu.edu
To: list at grouptalkweb.org- Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:33:54 -0400
Subject: Subtle oppression - CC: ablatner at verizon.net
Adam, Ann
Hmmmm.... Interesting.
I tend to look at oppression and privilege as together...as connected dynamics.... you can't have oppression without some other body getting privilege... even if they don't want that privilege... Like, I get privilege by dent of being white and middle class even though I spend a lot of energy fighting to redistribute resources in a more egalitarian manner.... So this brings up an interesting group effect.... seeing the collective oppressing the individual.... oppressing individuality.... especially 1 and 3... sort of like the Borg on Star Trek New Generation.... (they were a culture where conformity was mandatory.. all cogs in the social machine... happy cogs once they lost their individuality.... the words I remember most... "Resistance [to becoming one of the cogs] is futile... very much like Moreno's ideas of Robotrons.... But who benefits? The stability of the group... the "borg ness"
-1. I can't understand what the other person is saying because s/he is speaking too fast, too softly, with too much of an accent or dialect, using too big or unfamiliar terms or vocabulary, and so forth. In trying to bring up the problem of understand-ability, I've at times been met with blame.
2. Someone takes offense to what I say, which then makes it difficult in that escalated emotional context to seek clarification and make amends. Explanations are often perceived as trying to avoid responsibility when in fact they are seeking to find a way to work out the miscommunication.
3. Feeling one has a minority opinion when the group is perceived to have a certain bias. (Example: In one group many years ago a protagonist was complaining about a vague memory of possible sexual abuse---this was when this complaint was seen as always to be believed. I asked, "Well, there seems to be some question whether this event actually happened." Caught a lot of flack.)
I like Ann's application of the cannon of creativity and impact of sociometry on challenging that "borgness" ... it seems to me that this is the heart of social movements.... those lone deviants who first step forward and say, consciously or not, I won't take these social rules and defying them... perhaps paying the price of being shut down or rejected..., perhaps getting social applause...,
So the trick becomes creating groups or moving towards situations in groups on one hand and on another, finding ways to communicate in a way that others can "hear."
peace,
regina sewell, Ph.D.
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On Jul 11, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Adam Blatner wrote:
fun thought. Its reciprocal: What could someone say that would turn me off?
I have been turned off by people overtly attacking me, calling me names,
presuming to attribute their fantasies as my motivations, uncivil language...
But there are degrees of turn-off
It's more intriguing if I do answer something that's provocative and see how the other person responds
- Sometimes they irrationally escalate
- Sometimes they may pause and inquire as to what my objections are about
- So there's a bit of how many times over the net (ping-pong metaphor) the ball goes...
- As to a position or saying something that's not well received... what might that be?
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-- Original Message -
From: Anath Garber= thana ag<mailto:anathga at hotmail.com>- To: REGINA SEWELL<mailto:sewell.2 at osu.edu> ;list at grouptalkweb.org<mailto:list at grouptalkweb.org>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:00 PM- Subject: RE: Subtle oppression
Adam,Ann,Regina,
Hmmm. Very interesting.
I just wonder how many on this list serve feel oppressed by their perception that what they have to say will be totally off according to the perceived expectations of what is acceptable. for these discussions. Would one of these presumably oppressed speak up,and help us "walk the talk"? How will we respond?!
anath '(Garber)
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-- Message: 5 -Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:33:04 +0000
From: Anath Garber thana ag <anathga at hotmail.com> -
-Subject: RE: Subtle oppression anecdote
To: Anna Schaum <anna at annaschaum.com>, <list at grouptalkweb.org>
Hi Anna,
It was wonderful to hear your voice and please join in and let your interesting self be heard!
Hmmm..does the list serve anywhere states that only CP and above have the right to join and participate?
speaking of our self oppression....
Warmest welcome,
anath
anath garber
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CC: anathga at hotmail.com; list at grouptalkweb.org
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On Jul 11, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Adam Blatner wrot
:fun thought. Its reciprocal: What could someone say that would turn me off?
I have been turned off by people overtly attacking me, calling me names, presuming to attribute their fantasies as my motivations, uncivil language... But there are degrees of turn-off It's more intriguing if I do answer something that's provocative and see how the other person responds
- Sometimes they irrationally escalate
- Sometimes they may pause and inquire as to what my objections are about
- So there's a bit of how many times over the net (ping-pong metaphor) the ball goes...
As to a position or saying something that's not well received...
what might that be?
Stuff that's outside of our arena for discussion, such as
Advertising tooth paste , or content on the border of the boundaries..
More problematic is the lack of any awareness that one is at the edge, no apologies, no questioning of the entitlement..
But even then, in general my own tendency is simply to inquire further and see how they answer...
I'll be interested to see how others answer Anath's question of what content would draw our rejection...
Warmly,
adam--- ('Blatner)
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-- Original Message ---From: Anath Garber thana agTo: REGINA SEWELL ; list at grouptalkweb.orgSent: Friday, July 11, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: = RE: Subtle oppression
Adam,Ann,Regina,
Hmmm. Very interesting.
I just wonder how many on this list serve feel oppressed by their perception that what they have to say will be totally off according to the perceived expectations of what is acceptable. for these discussions. Would one of these presumably oppressed speak up,and help us "walk the talk"? How will we respond?
anath
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From:REGINA SEWELL sewell.2 at osu.edu - To: list at grouptalkweb.org
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:33:54 -040
Subject: Subtle oppression ----- CC: ablatner at verizon.net
Adam, Ann
Hmmmm.... Interesting.
I tend to look at oppression and privilege as together...as connected dynamics.... you can't have oppression without some other body getting privilege... even if they don't want that privilege... Like, I get privilege by dent of being white and middle class even though I spend a lot of energy fighting to redistribute resources in a more egalitarian manner.... So this brings up an interesting group effect.... seeing the collective oppressing the individual.... oppressing individuality.... especially 1 and 3... sort of like the Borg on Star Trek New Generation.... (they were a culture where conformity was mandatory.. all cogs in the social machine... happy cogs once they lost their individuality.... the words I remember most... "Resistance [to becoming one of the cogs] is futile... very much like Moreno's ideas of Robotrons.... But who benefits? The stability of the group... the "borg ness"?
1. I can't understand what the other person is saying because s/he is speaking too fast, too softly, with too much of an accent or dialect, using too big or unfamiliar terms or vocabulary, and so forth. In trying to bring up the problem of understand-ability, I've at times been met with blame.
2. Someone takes offense to what I say, which then makes it difficult in that escalated emotional context to seek clarification and make amends. Explanations are often perceived as trying to avoid responsibility when in fact they are seeking to find a way to work out the miscommunication.
3. Feeling one has a minority opinion when the group is perceived to have a certain bias. (Example: In one group many years ago a protagonist was complaining about a vague memory of possible sexual abuse---this was when this complaint was seen as always to be believed. I asked, "Well, there seems to be some question whether this event actually happened." Caught a lot of flack.)
-I like Ann's application of the cannon of creativity and impact of sociometry on challenging that "borgness" ... it seems to me that this is the heart of social movements.... those lone deviants who first step forward and say, consciously or not, I won't take these social rules and defying them... perhaps paying the price of being shut down or rejected..., perhaps getting social applause...,
So the trick becomes creating groups or moving towards situations in groups on one hand and on another, finding ways to communicate in a way that others can "hear."
peace,
regina sewell, Ph.D.
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Message: 6- Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:52:11 -0700 (PDT)
-From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Experiences and autism
To: karenc at wi.rr.com, ASGPP grouptalknew <list at grouptalkweb.org>
- From: BARNETT WEISS <budweiss at verizon.net>
Subject: Add to Subtle Oppression
To: ASGPP grouptalknew <list at grouptalkweb.org>
I think that that Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions goes well with this discussion as does Moreno's theory of the process of group norm shift as seen for example in the sociograms of pre adolescents to adolescents in their choices towards the opposite sex as mentioned by Adam; Early on, a boy choosing to be with a girl would have been more or less oppressed by his peers in terms of his choice; later that choice is either not a problem or is a kind of group norm.
Similarly (...)
"The perfect man breathes as if he is not breathing" - Lao-Tzu (circa 4th century BC)
Breathing is the foundation of life, and good breathing is the foundation of good health
Improve your health by improving your breathing
Barnett J. Weiss, MA, LCSW , 7410 Ridge Blvd 2D;Brooklyn, NY 11209 Cell (917)-751-3395
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- Some news from Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger (Paris and Argentiere- French Alps-France)
Good long French summer holidays in French Alps
In 2007 Anne published in Frech her book on "Psychogenealogy" =
"Psychogénéalogie, guérir les blessures familiales et se retrouver soi",
Paris, Payot.
July 2007 , collective book in English on Psychodrama
(anne has a long a rticle in it , as well as Adam Blatner and 25 others)
editors Clark Baim, Jorg Burgmeister, Manuela Maciel :
"Psychodrama, Advances in Theory and Practice", London, Routledge, July 2007.
Happy landings and happy summer to all
Tout de bon – Best of best
Anne, Paris,& Argentiere-Chamonix-Mont-Blanc (French Alps,France)
Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger, PhD, TEP
University Professor (emeritus)
Professeur des Universites, groupe-analyste
Psychodramatiste & analyste transgenerationnel
Co-Fondateu/Founder and actual honorry Archiuvist IAGP
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anne.schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr
http://www.psychogenealogie.name
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Quelques nouvelles d'Anne de juillet 2008
74400 Argentiere-Chamonix-Mont-Blanc (Hte Savoie) France
Longues vacances d'été - farniente, réédition de livres, soleil et pause en juillet-août.
- Some news from Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger (Paris and Argentiere)
Good long French summer holidays in French Alps
In Argentina in 2008 new translation of Anne's books (with new publisher Taurus) and new republications of old translations of Anne's books
"Sortir du Deuil" ("Salir del Duelo") with Evelyne Bissone Jeufroy is also in translation and soon in print in Argentina in 2008.
16° édition élargie de "Aie mes Aieux" (DDB) sous presse en juillet 2008
et "Sortir du Deuil" sortant en "poche" Petite Bibliothèque Payot
et "le Psychodrame" (nouvelle édition, pbp, Payot)
En novembre 2007, Anne a publié son livre :
"Psychogénéalogie, guérir les blessures familiales et se retrouver soi",
Paris, Payot. (Réimpression en janvier et mars 2008 avec petites corrections).
En juillet, 2007 elle a participé avec un long article à un livre collectif anglais
édité par/editor Clark Baim, Jorg Burgmeister, Manuela Maciel :
"Psychodrama, Advances in Theory and Practice", London, Routledge, July 2007.
Début 2008, quelques ouvrages d'Anne traduits et édités ou réedités
en Argentine en espagnol chez plusieurs éditeurs et divers nouveaux projets.
Anne fait, une pause pendant les vacances et ne prends pas de nouveaux
rendez-vous avant la rentrée...
Happy landings et "bon vent" comme on disait dans la "Royale" à voile.
Tout de bon – Best of best
Anne, Paris,
(et l'été souvent en Haute Savoie, à Argentiere-Chamonix-Mont-Blanc)
Anne Ancelin Schutzenberger, PhD, TEP
Professeur des Universites, groupe-analyste
Psychodramatiste & analyste transgenerationnel
Co-Fondateur et Archiviste IAGP
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anne.schutzenberger at wanadoo.fr
http://www.psychogenealogie.name
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Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.2/1562 - Release Date: 7/19/2008 2:01 PM
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