Adam Blatner blatneradam at gmail.com
Sun Jan 4 20:50:34 UTC 2015

As I reflect on all this it occurs to me that there may be two or three 
phases here. One is warming-up, which is what's happening now. Problems and 
very tentative solutions are proposed.
   The second phase involves what Rebecca suggested, getting down to 
It's important to notice that few people will warm-up enough to 
generalities. Moreno himself talked of creativity as an ongoing process: 
Everything pretty much could do with occasional re-evaluations, or maybe say 
it as this: There's often someone out there with a better idea that invites 
us to re-think assumptions. Sometimes what's thought of as a better idea is 
actually a worse idea.
    Changing the certification?  Really, most things should be re-considered 
for change, but then again, most ideas about change are so laced with 
sub-problems that the sense of "let's not change" carries on. Occasionally, 
though the sub-problems are worked through, the personal clash of styles is 
limited, tact and persistence triumph, and a better idea or two gets 

    So for example, John Nolte proposed a number of specifics for a Revised 
Certification Procedure. Who then will discuss these?

For example: John said that for the application Forms: There are only three 
pieces of information that a trainer, primary or secondary can provide that 
are relevant to the certification process. They are:
> 1. The relationship to the trainee, how long trainer has known trainee, 
> and the extent of training with him or her;
> 2. Confirmation of trainee's calendar of training with this and other 
> trainers;
> 3. Endorsement of the trainee, indicating that the trainer is willing to 
> stake his or her reputation as a trainer on the trainee's competence as a 
> psychodrama director and his or her ethical behavior.
            AB: Is this so? I haven't thought this through, but what other 
things are indeed needed?
    Should this correspondence also go to the Members of the ASGPP 
Members at ASGPPListserv.org

In the same sense, John Nolte said about the examination:
> Rather than a written examination, I propose that the candidate for 
> certification meet with a committee of three members of the Board of 
> Examiners (or previous Board Examiners deputized for this purpose) for an 
> oral examination. I think that such a meeting for an hour or an hour and a 
> half can more effectively measure a candidate's grasp of knowledge of the 
> areas now covered by the written examination. After the examination, the 
> Examiners can decide whether the candidate has succeeded or not and inform 
> him or her directly. The oral examination would reduce the many hours 
> involved in preparing the examinations for grading as well as the hours 
> spent in reading examinations by the graders. Most importantly, the 
> candidate could receive an almost immediate result instead of waiting for 
> months as things now stand.
> Oral examinations could be scheduled to take place during the Annual 
> Conference of the ASGPP. The four days offer many opportunities for 
> examining committees to meet with prospective candidates. By deputizing 
> others as examiners and by using small committees, the task should not be 
> too burdensome for individual Board members. If necessary, another 
> opportunity for undergoing the oral examination could be arranged, 
> probably in a different area of the country at a different time of year.
> III. Demonstration of Directing Skill (On-Site)
> In lieu of the current practice of on-site observations, I would like to 
> suggest that the Board organize and offer several workshops of six to nine 
> sessions. Each session would be directed by a candidate for certification. 
> One, preferably two Board members (or other deputized observers) would 
> conduct a thorough processing session following each drama. Participants 
> in the workshops (seven to twelve) could be recruited by the Board from 
> people in training for certification who could attend at a small or no 
> fee, and in return would accrue training hours. In addition, they would 
> have the advantage of participating in the certification process in 
> advance of undergoing the it themselves. Another possibility is to conduct 
> several of these sessions during the Annual Conference of the ASGPP. In 
> that case, I would recommend different groups and observers for each such 
> session.

... so maybe these are good ideas. Who then is listening on the Board, and 
might they be considered. Would John be open to corresponding with those who 
are charged with making such changes, or even bringing up that they might be 
worthy of consideration? What other thoughts are relevant?
     Might this be discussed at the next conference in open session? What 
might be some counter-arguments?

       - Adam 

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