Terrific program using Role reversal with opposite deeply invested beliefs and experience

Dan Randow dan at randow.nz
Mon Jan 16 21:21:39 PST 2017

Hi Bud,

I agree that the first two steps of the process appeared to work well. My
interest is in the third step when people did create a war of “I’m right,
you’re wrong” and several walked out.

Actually, I am amazed that the group held together as long as it did. The
disparity between the values in the two subgroups is enormous. If I were
working with diads like that, I would facilitate each step closely, with
regular checking for accuracy. Working with a whole group, I would choose a
set of sociometric criteria that were much less confronting so that the
group warmed up to trust and empathy in a series of small steps.

Yes, it would be great to have work like this happen widely.


On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 3:55 PM Buds <bud.weiss at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Dan:
> Starting with people having a go at it would immediately create a war of
> "I'm right, you're wrong, now what?" As Dr.  Xavier Amador wrote.
> They begin by having the persons story and position honored and listened
> to fully both by the other and by the entire audience with some warm up
> being about really listening to and doing the best they can with that. Then
> the  two subjects are asked to inhabit the other person's story and
> position as faithfully as they can. That's when the real magic occurs.
> There's no subsequent role reversals; just sharing what it was like to
> inhabit the others position in which they begin to bridge the gap between
> them and in so doing they  assist a real empathetic exchange for all
> involved.
> This is such a human process without any sense of manipulating either
> person to make a point. The two together make the point in their process
> and sharing.
> I do think some of us could help to enhance the process and we'd have to
> be really careful not to disturb the integrity they have built.
> I'd like to see us finding ways of supporting this process doing it all
> over the world.
> Be well, Bud
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 6:53 AM, shelley j korshak <sjschicago at juno.com>
> wrote:
> wow...this is what we want...role reversal to heal the conflicts in our
> society...my vision is for it to be taught in kindergarten and grades
>  K-8...thank you, Bud...
> shelley
> sj korshak firestone
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> On Jan 16, 2017, at 2:27 AM, Dan Randow <dan at randow.nz> wrote:
> Great process. I think Psychodrama systemises things that we know about
> already. If role reversal is a developmental stage for children, then if
> things go ok, we all learn some.
> Actually, this process reminds me of the Imago flavour of Mirroring where
> one repeat the other’s words back to them verbatim.
> I really appreciate seeing this example of empathy being created across
> seemingly impossible difference.
> I would like to have seen a better process when people started to have a
> go at each other.
> Thanks for posting this, Bud.
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 5:47 AM Bud Weiss <bud.weiss at gmail.com> wrote:
>  This is a program that was just highlighted in New York Magazine as well
> as an interview with the principle movers on National Public Radio on WNYC
> in New York City
> <http://www.wnyc.org/story/storytelling-tool-build-empathy>
> Reverse roles healing the chasm between Gun owners and victims and more
> <http://www.wnyc.org/story/storytelling-tool-build-empathy>
> Check out this amazing story of folks reversing roles in a forum that
> changes lives forever. And I don't even think they knew about psychodrama.
> They just came to this naturally.
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