Members Digest, Vol 50, Issue 22 Elders

Saphira Linden saphira at omegatheater.org
Tue Jul 11 20:58:00 UTC 2017


Dear Colleagues,
I have just read everyone's responses to "the elders" question.
First, I don't feel that creating a meeting or encounter during other
workshops is a good idea.
Second, I feel that the whole question of aging, as different
practitioners, as well as the aging of our organization, which seems to
have less new young members than other Creative Arts organizations, is so
important.
Third, I think everyones, ideas and enthusiasm to do something formal and
informal to connect new members to older seasoned members should be looked
at creatively.

One idea is to create a whole conference (one after this perhaps) about the
history and future possibilities of who we were, are and who and what we
might become. As I envision this, I think of creating a conference wide
talk/event/presentation. Perhaps we have fun with this and each of us play
roles of not only the Morenos but also, as Karen suggests,  roles of
ancestors, earlier practitioners and historical events, for example, in a
humorous but real way. The idea is to tell our stories but also to tell the
stories of others, for a longer time than Dena had for Moreno remembrances.
Perhaps all of this could lead up to creating sculptures of our idealized
future images of what we, as a movement, as an organization could become in
the future.

Thanks for everyone's inputs. These are just some seed reflections and
ideas.

Saphira

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Tian Dayton via Members <
members at asgpplistserv.org> wrote:

> I am totally onboard with that one Adam!
> I think we’re much too stuck in the medical model and too
> far away from “the streets” or the living room or all of that…
> I love the idea of mining the use of sociometry and role play for
> just better quality of life, yes!
> Couldn’t we be the quinoa of the mind…sort of a complete protein
> that stores easily on a shelf….just add water?
>
> Tian
>
> On Jul 10, 2017, at 7:44 PM, Edward Schreiber via Members <
> members at asgpplistserv.org> wrote:
>
> I want both!  The therapy and the spiritual presence he points us to.
> But I am liking your thoughts Adam.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Blatner
> Sent: Jul 10, 2017 7:26 PM
> To: asgpp listserve
> Cc: Grouptalk
> Subject: Re: Members Digest, Vol 50, Issue 22 Elders
>
> ​I guess I could qualify as an elder. I'll be in Dallas. My own direction
> is away a bit from psychodrama as therapy for the sick, and more as a
> method, mixed with other Morenian efforts, to meet the future.
>    There's his "spirituality"--- such as it is---which transcends either
> traditional religion or modern science, and is rooted less in the
> way-beyond-transcend-ent realm and more in how people can transcend their
> own boundaries​
>     And the way many of Moreno's inventions serve ths goal.
>
> I'm finished with "therapy," though it is a respected root form; but
> more,now,I want to help redeem Moreno's contributions beyond any
> "treatment" for people in the "sick  role"  Sociodrama, bibliodrama,
> applied sociometry--- these are ideas that intrigue me now. Especially
> Moreno's philosophy   I don't need to agree with every detail, but I want
> to understand his vision better.
>
> Warmly, Adam Blatner
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Tzivia via Members <members@
> asgpplistserv.org> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to see elders..not as a stagnant lot..but as a lineage tree.
>> There are more than one level of elders.  Like in constallations work..we
>> take our place from eldest to the youngest.  So..TEPS created a school and
>> lineage based on their own or classic psychodrama tastes.   They then
>> become the elder of their lineage.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Tian Dayton via Members <members at asgpplistserv.org>
>> Date:07/10/2017 1:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: Robert Siroka <rsiroka at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: List Serve ASGPP <members at asgpplistserv.org>
>> Subject: Re: Members Digest, Vol 50, Issue 22 Elders
>>
>> Go Bob….feels like  the old days! And I agree whole heartedly…..
>> very tender questions to ask..
>>
>> Tian
>>
>> > On Jul 10, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Robert Siroka via Members <
>> members at asgpplistserv.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Folks,I had a conversation with two people that would likely fit
>> the criteria suggested so far. Person One  " yes I still use some of
>> Moreno's ideas in my work,primarily individual  therapy" "  It was very
>> important to me personally" I don't travel much any more for physical and
>> financial reasons,I read the journal  but the meetings are too hard to get
>> for me"  Person Two  " I use Psychodrama to this day but I don't go to
>> meetings because I don't know many people there any more and I feel quite
>> alone at meetings ,I miss people who have died and no one is particularly
>> interested in me or what I have to say"      There needs to be an in--
>> depth understanding of aging and professional affiliation.  I do not
>> believe that the status of Elder should be considered an award like the
>> JLMoreno award.  A question.  What has ASGPP done for Elders?  Did we do
>> too much ? not enough?" it never crossed my mind."    There seems to be
>> energy here maybe we have reason to hope.  How about a role reversal and
>> some doubling with possible Elders.    Best Bob Siroka
>> >
>> >
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>> >   1. Re: [NCGPS-Forum Listserv] Announcing two new books (Ilene Wolff)
>> >   2. Re: I WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN HOLD A "LETS TALK"SESSION,    AT
>> >       THE 2018 CONFERENCE?THIS WILL ENABLE ELDERS AND NEW MEMBERS TO
>> >       TALK TOGETHER? (drb)
>> >   3. Re: I WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN HOLD A "LETS TALK"SESSION,    AT
>> >       THE 2018 CONFERENCE?THIS WILL ENABLE ELDERS AND NEW MEMBERS TO
>> >       TALK TOGETHER? (Souldrama)
>> >
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:58:39 -0700
>> > From: Ilene Wolff <i.wolf at comcast.net<mailto:i.wolf at comcast.net>>
>> > To: Haim Weinberg <haimw at group-psychotherapy.com <mailto:
>> haimw at group-psychotherapy.com>>
>> > Cc: asgpp listserve <members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:
>> members at asgpplistserv.org>>
>> > Subject: Re: [NCGPS-Forum Listserv] Announcing two new books
>> > Message-ID: <899C55E9-B042-459F-921F-61B409B49B03 at comcast.net <mailto:
>> 899C55E9-B042-459F-921F-61B409B49B03 at comcast.net>>
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>> > Dear Fellow Psychodramatists,
>> > Just want to give a shout out to Moreno and Haim Weinberg, a very
>> talented elder who teaches group therapy in Northern Ca.
>> > Thank you,
>> > Ilene
>> >
>> > How to turn your life into a success story
>> > _________________________________
>> > Ilene Wolf, MFT, RDT
>> > 415.263.6744 <(415)%20263-6744>
>> > ilene at dramatherapyinstitute.com <mailto:ilene at dramatherapyinstitute.com
>> >
>> > http://ilenewolf.com <http://ilenewolf.com/>
>> > http://womenstherapynetwork.net<http://womenstherapynetwork.net/>
>> >
>> > On Jul 10, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Haim Weinberg haimw at group-
>> psychotherapy.com<mailto:haimw at group-psychotherapy.com> [NCGPS-Forum] <
>> NCGPS-Forum-noreply at yahoogroups.com <mailto:NCGPS-Forum-
>> noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Ilene,
>> > Thanks for the compliments.
>> > In the first volume of the series (Hopper, E. & Weinberg, H. (eds.)
>> (2011). The Social Unconscious in Persons, Groups and Societies: Volume 1:
>> Mainly Theory. London: Karnac), we have 3 chapters comparing Moreno's (the
>> father of psychodrama) co-unconscious, Foulkes' (the father of group
>> analysis) social unconscious, and Pichon-Rivier's (the father of Latin
>> American group psychotherapy) ideas. We also  summarize the similarities
>> and differences in our introduction.
>> > By the way, as far as I know the people who are considered the founders
>> of group psychotherapy are either Pratt (1906) or Burrow (1920) who was
>> actually the first to use the term group analysis.
>> > Haim
>> >
>> > On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 at 20:59 ilene wolff <ilene at ilenewolf.com<mailto:il
>> ene at ilenewolf.com>> wrote:
>> > Outstanding Haim!
>> > So it is Moreno who founded group therapy and psychodrama that you
>> honor and write about  here in Vol #3 of the social unconscious?
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Ilene
>> > How to turn your life into a success story
>> > _________________________________
>> > Ilene Wolf, MFT, RDT
>> > 415.263.6744 <(415)%20263-6744>
>> > ilene at dramatherapyinstitute.com <mailto:ilene at dramatherapyinstitute.com
>> >
>> > http://www.ilenewolf.com<http://www.ilenewolf.com/>
>> > http://www.womenstherapynetwork.net <http://www.womensther
>> apynetwork.net/>
>> > http://www.dramatherapyinstitute.com <http://www.dramather
>> apyinstitute.com/>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Jul 9, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Peter Cole peterhayscole at gmail.com<mailto:
>> peterhayscole at gmail.com> [NCGPS-Forum] <NCGPS-Forum-noreply at yahoogrou
>> ps.com<mailto:NCGPS-Forum-noreply at yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Haim -- you are making such important contributions to the field of
>> group therapy! Congratulations!
>> >
>> > Peter C
>> >
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>> > From: Haim Weinberg haimw at group-psychotherapy.com <mailto:haim
>> w at group-psychotherapy.com> [NCGPS-Forum]
>> > Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 4:40 PM
>> > To: ncgps-forum
>> > Reply To: haimw at group-psychotherapy.com<mailto:haimw at group-psychot
>> herapy.com>
>> > Subject: [NCGPS-Forum Listserv] Announcing two new books [1 Attachment]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear NCGPS Community,
>> >
>> > I am pleased to announce the launching of two new books about the
>> Social Unconscious that I co-author/co-edit.
>> >
>> > 1. The first book connects fairy tales and the social unconscious.
>> Examining different versions of fairy tales told by different ethnic
>> communities, teaches us about the relations between universal and
>> local/cultural aspects of the social unconscious. Exploring the unique
>> status of fairy tales as located on the border line between
>> concrete/somatic and abstract/linguistic realms sheds light on different
>> levels of the human mind. The authors, Ravit Raufman and I, connect these
>> abstract ideas to psychotherapy by bringing examples from group therapy.
>> > Here is a link to the book page on Karnac, the publishing house:
>> > http://us.karnacbooks.com/product/fairy-tales-and-the-soci
>> al-unconscious-the-hidden-language/36830/<http://us.
>> karnacbooks.com/product/fairy-tales-and-the-social-
>> unconscious-the-hidden-language/36830/>
>> > Some of the group chapters are extended versions of articles that we
>> have published in international journals. One of them, about the "skin ego"
>> (Anzieu's concept), won the Alonso award for excellence in psychodynamic
>> group psychotherapy (together with John Schlapobersky for his book: From
>> the couch to the circle). The award was granted at the latest AGPA
>> conference in NY. The announcement in "the group circle" and a picture is
>> attached.
>> > Raufman, R., & Weinberg, H. (2016). ?To enter one?s skin?: the concrete
>> and symbolic functions of the skin in the social unconscious, as expressed
>> in fairy tales and group therapy. International Journal of Group
>> Psychotherapy, 66(2): 205?224.
>> >
>> > 2. The other book is "The Social Unconscious in Persons, Groups, and
>> Societies: Volume 3: The Foundation Matrix Extended and Re-configured"
>> co-edited by Earl Hopper and myself. This is the 3rd volume in a series of
>> books we co-edit about the social unconscious, where we use a group
>> analytic and relational perspective to understand this concept and bring
>> examples from different parts of the world. In this 3rd volume we focus on
>> non verbal aspects of the social unconscious and bring empirical findings
>> from societies in the Middle East. Two chapters describe the Social
>> Unconscious of the Palestinians, and two chapters relate to Israel. Another
>> chapter is about the Egyptian SU and one on ISIS.
>> > Here is a link to the page on Karnac:
>> > http://us.karnacbooks.com/product/the-social-unconscious-
>> in-persons-groups-and-societies-volume-3-the-foundat
>> ion-matrix-extended-and-re-configured/37511/ <http://us.
>> karnacbooks.com/product/the-social-unconscious-in-persons-
>> groups-and-societies-volume-3-the-foundation-matrix-
>> extended-and-re-configured/37511/>
>> >
>> > Both books will be launched next month in the international group
>> analytic society conference taking place in Berlin August 15-19. See
>> http://berlin-gasi-symposium2017.com <http://berlin-
>> gasi-symposium2017.com/>
>> > Yours truly,
>> > Haim Weinberg, PhD, PSY#23243. Private Practice in Sacramento.
>> >
>> > 2017 Alonso award in group psychotherapy for the co-authored article
>> "to Enter One's Skin"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > THE PROFESSIONAL SCHOOL OF
>> > PSYCHOLOGY
>> > Academic Vice-President
>> >
>> > Haim Weinberg, PhD, PSY#23243
>> > www.group-psychotherapy.com
>> > doctorate in group psychotherapy: www.grouptherapydoctorate.com
>> >
>> >
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>> > Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 12:59:38 -0400
>> > From: drb <dalerichardbuchanan at yahoo.com<mailto:dalerichardbuchanan at ya
>> hoo.com>>
>> > To: Jacqueline Siroka <jacsiroka at yahoo.com<mailto:jacsiroka at yahoo.com>>
>> > Cc: Tian Dayton <tian at tiandayton.com<mailto:tian at tiandayton.com>>,
>> Linda Condon
>> >     <lincondon at yahoo.com<mailto:lincondon at yahoo.com>>,    Rosalie
>> Minkin <rorobear at aol.com <mailto:rorobear at aol.com>>,    Lorelei
>> >     Goldman <loreleigoldman at sbcglobal.net<mailto:
>> loreleigoldman at sbcglobal.net>>,    "hvpi at hvpi.net <mailto:hvpi at hvpi.net>"
>> >     <hvpi at hvpi.net <mailto:hvpi at hvpi.net>>, Jeanne Burger <
>> drjeanneburger at gmail.com<mailto:drjeanneburger at gmail.com>>,     List
>> Serve
>> >     ASGPP <Members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:Members at asgpplistserv.org>>,
>> "M.K. Hudgins" <drkatetsi at me.com<mailto:drkatetsi at me.com>>,
>> >     Barbara Guest <barbaraguest at cyg.net<mailto:barbaraguest at cyg.net>>,
>> thana ag <anathga at hotmail.com<mailto:anathga at hotmail.com>>,
>> >     Edward Schreiber <edwschreiber at earthlink.net<mailto:
>> edwschreiber at earthlink.net>>,    Jacqueline Fowler
>> >     <lambswood at gmail.com<mailto:lambswood at gmail.com>>
>> > Subject: Re: I WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN HOLD A "LETS TALK"SESSION,    AT
>> >     THE 2018 CONFERENCE?THIS WILL ENABLE ELDERS AND NEW MEMBERS TO
>> TALK
>> >     TOGETHER?
>> > Message-ID: <43ABA04A-CBE8-45CE-95C9-AEAD49581CD0 at yahoo.com <mailto:
>> 43ABA04A-CBE8-45CE-95C9-AEAD49581CD0 at yahoo.com>>
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>> > Yes clearly the criteria need to be flexible.  Again the ASGPP might
>> also want to know the criteria would be used for.  If the ASGPP chooses a
>> broader criteria - elders are folks who have been members twenty years or
>> more than be prepared for a panel of fifty presenters.  If an elder is only
>> j l moreno trained then the panel would probably be ten or fifteen.  Etc.
>> best, dale
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> > > On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:42 PM, Jacqueline Siroka <jacsiroka at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:jacsiroka at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Not only grandfathered but were the first to be certified by the
>> board and continued to support the organization. Perhaps we can have tiers
>> to honor more elders.
>> > > J
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my iPad
>> > >
>> > >> On Jul 10, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Tian Dayton via Members <
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi All,
>> > >>
>> > >> I think this is a lovely discussion all around and good for all of
>> the generations in one way or another.
>> > >>
>> > >> My concern with tying elders to either those who have trained with
>> Moreno or those grandfathered
>> > >>
>> > >> is that it would effectively limit being an elder to one generation,
>> it would mean that our community
>> > >>
>> > >> could never again mint an elder?.and my understanding of ?elder? is
>> that it is a designation that passes
>> > >>
>> > >> along throughout the generations?.and repeats itself over time...
>> > >>
>> > >> let?s find a way to give special appreciation to those elders who
>> > >>
>> > >> trained with Moreno and/or were grandfathered, they certainly have
>> something special to impart?
>> > >>
>> > >> But then I?d go with something along the lines of Ed?d suggestion of
>> 30 years in practice or something like that?
>> > >>
>> > >> Best,
>> > >>
>> > >> Tian
>> > >>
>> > >>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Jacqueline Siroka <
>> jacsiroka at yahoo.com<mailto:jacsiroka at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Let me enter the conversation. I have been engaged by the energy
>> and thoughts of the people participating and spent some time thinking about
>> criteria to use. An idea that came to me is all people who where
>> grandfathered or passed the original certification process. Who continued
>> to support the organization.
>> > >>> Respectfully Jacquie
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Sent from my iPad
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 11:02 AM, drb via Members <
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Hi Ed,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thank you for your viewpoint.  I respect and honor your comments.
>> I thought we were trying to define criteria for an elder.  I suggested a
>> criterion.  Please suggest something. I am pretty confident that you are
>> not suggesting all people seventy years or older even those those who just
>> took their first psychodrama workshop should be a psychodrama elder.
>> What's your criteria for being a psychodrama elder.  Best, Dale
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Sent from my iPad
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 10:28 AM, <edwschreiber at earthlink.net <
>> mailto:edwschreiber at earthlink.net>> <edwschreiber at earthlink.net<mailto:
>> edwschreiber at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> I am not in agreement.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> There are elders in their 70's who have not studied with JL.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> This is not an exclusionary club, it's to honor our senior
>> teachers and practitioners.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Let's not restrict the criteria.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Ed
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>>>> From: "M.K. Hudgins"
>> > >>>>> Sent: Jul 10, 2017 10:16 AM
>> > >>>>> To: Dale Richard Buchanan
>> > >>>>> Cc: Tian Dayton PhD , thana ag , Linda Condon , Rosalie Minkin ,
>> Lorelei Goldman , "hvpi at hvpi.net <mailto:hvpi at hvpi.net>" , Jeanne Burger
>> , Barbara Guest , "members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:
>> members at asgpplistserv.org>" , Edward Schreiber , Jacqueline Fowler
>> > >>>>> Subject: Re: I WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN HOLD A "LETS TALK"SESSION,
>> AT THE 2018 CONFERENCE?THIS WILL ENABLE ELDERS AND NEW MEMBERS TO TALK
>> TOGETHER?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Yes, I think it should be anyone who studied with JL directly.
>> What amazing stories those would be!  Maybe make the dessert and awards
>> banquet a time for stories as well?  And maybe we could have a one on one
>> mentorship for anyone experienced at the conference to lead a few new
>> students through the process?  Sociometrically chosen?  random?
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Exciting to have a new venture after dealing with Zerka?s legacy
>> committee for a year.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Kate
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 4:14 PM, drb <dalerichardbuchanan at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:dalerichardbuchanan at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Anath,
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Shirley Barclay is certified, thus her contact information is in
>> your copy of the annual directory of certified psychodramatists, and is
>> also on the ABE's website.  I believe Moreno passed over in 1974.  One
>> criteria for an elder might be anyone who studied with J L Moreno.  A panel
>> is a great idea.  A simple solution is  just be to get a panel of elders
>> and give each person 3 minutes to tell a favorite story or anecdote about
>> Moreno, and then open it to questions.  Great idea!  Thanks for shepherding
>> this endeavor.
>> > >>>>>> Dale Richard Buchanan
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Tian Dayton via Members <
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I wonder if a conversation among elders that was filmed could
>> be a wonderful thing?.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Not endless, focused ?.Bob SIroka on Sociometry and role
>> play?..for example, Rosalie on Sociodrama?.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Dale and Jackie on St. E?s, Dena on whatever she likes?.a
>> conversation in that generation on film so
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> that we don?t lose their special knowledge?.Anath?.Adam...whoever
>> is old enough?these folks I mentioned don?t seem that old to me actually
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I am just using the names mentioned?It could occur every so
>> often?.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Tian
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 3:35 PM, thana ag via Members <
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Great!
>> > >>>>>>>> Who has her contact info?
>> > >>>>>>>>  Please forward.
>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>>>> Anath
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 2:52 PM, "edwschreiber at earthlink.net <
>> mailto:edwschreiber at earthlink.net>" <edwschreiber at earthlink.net<mailto:
>> edwschreiber at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> An unsung elder:  Shirley Barkley.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> She is for some odd.
>> > >>>>>>>>> For others, she represents a native culture in deep action.
>> > >>>>>>>>> Around the world she is honored as "grandmother" which is a
>> noted term for the honored elder.
>> > >>>>>>>>> Like the tallest tree.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> I would like to include, and to honor, her.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> That's my idea.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> And Adam.  And Natalie.  And Rosalie.  And Dale.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Ed
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>>>>>>>> From: thana ag
>> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Jul 9, 2017 2:19 PM
>> > >>>>>>>>> To: thana ag
>> > >>>>>>>>> Cc: "M.K. Hudgins" , Linda Condon , Rosalie Minkin , Lorelei
>> Goldman , "hvpi at hvpi.net<mailto:hvpi at hvpi.net>" , Jeanne Burger ,
>> Barbara Guest , "members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.o
>> rg>" , Edward Schreiber , Jacqueline Fowler
>> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: I WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN HOLD A "LETS
>> TALK"SESSION, AT THE 2018 CONFERENCE?THIS WILL ENABLE ELDERS AND NEW
>> MEMBERS TO TALK TOGETHER?
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>> > >>>>>>>>> This request goes to you all : please send in ideas
>> > >>>>>>>>> The more ideas - the better . It is easier to weed out , or
>> modify - when ideas are on the table.
>> > >>>>>>>>> One possibility : a round table of elders and a monitor with
>> Questions .
>> > >>>>>>>>> Passed through every elder or those who want to answer.
>> > >>>>>>>>> And participants surrounding the inner circle . Or arranging
>> a semi circle for visibility purpose.
>> > >>>>>>>>> Now of course the Q is : how much time to allot, where to
>> find the time during the Annual meeting ..etc
>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>> > >>>>>>>>> Anath Garber , MA, TEP, PDdir
>> > >>>>>>>>> Elders' Initiative ,  chair
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2017, at 2:11 PM, thana ag via Members <
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear Kate,
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Excellent Question!
>> > >>>>>>>>>> What do you suggest as a possibility?
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Please suggest any outrageous idea - we are cooking some
>> solutions .
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Anath
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2017, at 2:52 PM, M.K. Hudgins <drkatetsi at me.com
>> <mailto:drkatetsi at me.com>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Actually, as I get to thinking I dont that I am YET in the
>> elder category that needs to be celebrated with this idea..there is Dale,
>> Rosalie, Elaine Sacknoff, Jackie Siroka, Ann Hale, Donna Little, Dena,
>> Adam, etc?.those just a wee bit older than me and a generation ahead in
>> terms of many of them trained directly with JL.  I wonder if anyone has the
>> photo from the Phonix workshop with the inner circle of those recently
>> passed on a small round table and then an inner circle of the real elders,
>> my generation, another one out, etc.  It spoke to this sociometry.  So my
>> question is how can I support the elders to connect with the new folks so
>> much of the oral history continues to be shared?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Kate
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Jeanne Burger <
>> drjeanneburger at gmail.com<mailto:drjeanneburger at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Do we still have archive committee? What happened to that
>> collection and interest?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jeanne Burger
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 757 622 4986 <(757)%20622-4986> (home)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Drjeanneburger at gmail.com<mailto:Drjeanneburger at gmail.com>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Edward Schreiber via Members <
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Linda-
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to put forward the idea of assuming
>> responsibilities for Adam's vast array of international contacts,
>> conferences, etc., that he posted about some time ago.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea put forward was that the International Committee
>> might take this on.  So sending to Anath and others on the committee (I am
>> on it as well).
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Linda Condon
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Jul 7, 2017 8:18 AM
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: edwschreiber at earthlink.net<mailto:
>> edwschreiber at earthlink.net>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: thana ag , "Dr. Kate Hudgins" , Rosalie Minkin ,
>> Lorelei Goldman , Rebecca Walters , Jeanne Burger , Barbara Guest , "
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>" ,
>> Jacqueline Fowler
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: I WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN HOLD A "LETS
>> TALK"SESSION, AT THE 2018 CONFERENCE?THIS WILL ENABLE ELDERS AND NEW
>> MEMBERS TO TALK TOGETHER?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry it took so long to get back to you.  Anath Garber
>> is the chair of the International Committee.  Linda
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda Condon, LMHC, TEP
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Licensed Mental Health Counselor
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trainer, Educator & Practitioner of Psychodrama
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> President, American Society of Group Psychotherapy &
>> Psychodrama
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2641 Harbor Circle
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Clearwater, FL. 33759
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 727-543-9128 <(727)%20543-9128>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 4:15 PM, Edward Schreiber via Members
>> <members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Linda!  Great to know.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about the International committee?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Linda Condon
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Jul 4, 2017 3:27 PM
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "edwschreiber at earthlink.net<mailto:
>> edwschreiber at earthlink.net>" , thana ag
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Dr. Kate Hudgins" , Rosalie Minkin , Lorelei
>> Goldman , Jacqueline Fowler , Jeanne Burger , Barbara Guest , "
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>" , Rebecca
>> Walters
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: I WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN HOLD A "LETS
>> TALK"SESSION, AT THE 2018 CONFERENCE?THIS WILL ENABLE ELDERS AND NEW
>> MEMBERS TO TALK TOGETHER?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have just formed a Conference Task Force committee at
>> the May EC meeting that is being led by EC member, Kim Cox.  They will be
>> examining the evaluations from the last conference and exploring the
>> structure, conserves, processes of the conferences and looking at changes
>> we might want to consider for the future.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We also have just formed an Elder Committee at the May
>> EC meeting that is being chaired by EC member, Anath Garber.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Chapters Committee is chaired by member, Craig
>> Caines.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Membership Committee is chaired by EC member, Linda
>> Condon.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Promotion and Expansion Committee is chaired by EC
>> member, Steven Durost.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Research Committee is chaired by EC member, Chi Sing
>> Li.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Scholarship Committee is chaired by EC member, Sandy
>> Seeger.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The CEU Committee is chaired by EC member, Mary Ann
>> Bodnar.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Website Committee is chaired by member, Regina
>> Sewell.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please know the ideas, suggestions, thoughts of the
>> membership about these issues are appreciated, being heard, and
>> considered.  Please consider joining our ASGPP committees as we need you in
>> order to make things happen.  The chairs of all of these committees will
>> gratefully accept whatever assistance you can offer. The committee work and
>> leadership of ASGPP exists only because of our generous volunteer members.
>> Come join us.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let the dialogue continue...
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On behalf of the Executive Council,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda Condon, LMHC, TEP
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Licensed Mental Health Counselor
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trainer, Educator, and Practitioner of Psychodrama
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> President, ASGPP
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2641 Harbor Circle
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Clearwater, FL 33759
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (727) 543-9128
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (727) 723-1219 (FAX)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 2:57 PM, Edward Schreiber via
>> Members <members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One more thought:  Would it be feasible, and desired, to
>> have a committee formed to review the entire structure, process, etc. of
>> the ASGPP Conference?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe we can advance the ASGPP Conference conserve -
>> and potentially promote-attract more folks.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or is this too radical of a proposal?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: thana ag
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Jul 4, 2017 2:26 PM
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "edwschreiber at earthlink.net<mailto:
>> edwschreiber at earthlink.net>"
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Rebecca Walters , "Dr. Kate Hudgins" , Rosalie
>> Minkin , Lorelei Goldman , Jeanne Burger , Barbara Guest , "
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>" ,
>> Jacqueline Fowler
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: I WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN HOLD A "LETS
>> TALK"SESSION, AT THE 2018 CONFERENCE?THIS WILL ENABLE ELDERS AND NEW
>> MEMBERS TO TALK TOGETHER?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can read at the ASGPP forum - all the proposals re
>> Elders.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus few more will be posted .
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The encounter with elders and new comers is one of them.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They will all be discussed and voted
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the next meeting of the council.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So please keep sending new ideas or requests, before
>> July 23.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another idea: an ongoing PD theater
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> During the ASGPP Annual Meeting directed by elders - to
>> process  themes/ issues  arising during the Meeting
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A great  opportunity for newcomers  to witness PD by
>> elders. An extra learning opportunity if time left for processing .
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy 4th ,
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anath Garber, MA, TEP, PDdir
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 1:34 PM, Edward Schreiber via
>> Members <members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The work of the cultural conserve is to preserve itself.
>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A new idea, as creative energy emerges - and meets
>> resistance.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the resistance can be mastered, that energy/new idea
>> can form into something new, and embodied into form.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's the Canon of Creativity.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This new idea - to gather together - elders and those
>> new in some forum, some form - would be a welcoming for new folks.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opening the circle.  Completing the Circle.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can find out what people want by making an offering
>> of a gathering, a circle.  Inclusion.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can be simple.  An actual circle of chairs.  Open to
>> questions and sharing.  What a delightful idea put forth by Rosalie and
>> Lorelei and others!
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Rebecca Walters via Members
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Jul 4, 2017 12:32 PM
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Dr. Kate Hudgins"
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Rosalie Minkin , Lorelei Goldman , Jeanne Burger ,
>> Barbara Guest , " members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:
>> members at asgpplistserv.org>" , Jacqueline Fowler
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: I WANT TO KNOW IF WE CAN HOLD A "LETS
>> TALK"SESSION, AT THE 2018 CONFERENCE?THIS WILL ENABLE ELDERS AND NEW
>> MEMBERS TO TALK TOGETHER?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In ST Louis we did have small group meetings at the end
>> of each day in order for newcomers to feel more connected. I dont know if
>> they were successful. I do know that we didn't do it again.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          I wonder if this sort of gathering meets the
>> needs of the new conference attendees or is it to meet the needs of the
>> elders?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        I think we need to do a little ~market research~
>> . We need to find out what the newbies actually want. Maybe they would
>> indeed like to have a meeting during a workshop slot. Maybe they would
>> prefer to be  paired up with an elder to check in with, to have lunch with.
>> Why dont we ask them?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2017 12:19 PM, "M.K. Hudgins via Members" <
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Elders
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that this is a great idea and would be more
>> than willing to do whatever is requested.  I know at IAGP that there are
>> daily debriefing sessions both in small and large groups and that is has
>> been very helpful to have that at the many meetings I have gone to.  I dont
>> know if we?d want to let people make sociometric connections based on their
>> interests or do the random choosing Jeanne suggests, but I am on board.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love as Zerka taught us to say, Kate
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Barbara Guest via Members <
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds like an excellent idea. I would have
>> appreciated that when I first came. I know many first timers have a trainer
>> there to debrief with, but this takes the burden of hand holding off the
>> trainer when they are busy with their friends at the conference. I know
>> meeting with some students can be a joy, but not always. This would provide
>> an alternative and offer support to those who don?t have anyone there they
>> can turn to.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barbara
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 2017, at 10:01 PM, Jeanne Burger via Members <
>> members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we could organize some small mentoring groups
>> for new conference attendees at the beginning or end of each day to process
>> with an "elder".  Jeanne
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Lorelei Goldman via Members
>> <members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea has been formulating for some time.    Rosalie
>> has been out there pushing ahead and anath Garber is spearheading what she
>> has called the "elder initiative".
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let us find a time and place at the conference and gel
>> our ideas ahead of time.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anath has put together s list of questions for out
>> initiative.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I spoke with Zerka several years ago she
>> encouraged and wished for a mentoring program within our community.  How
>> about the elders mentoring new members?
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luv, lor
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 3, 2017, at 8:24 PM, Jacqueline Fowler via
>> Members <members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love the idea, Rosalie -- I'll be there!  Jackie
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Rosalie Minkin via
>> Members <members at asgpplistserv.org<mailto:members at asgpplistserv.org>>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Surface
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