sick role or not

Adam Blatner adam at
Mon Apr 2 13:59:33 PDT 2018

excellent response: Exactly, but "therapeutic" means that the doctor knows,
when in fact no one has a fixed answer;  and doctors or psychiatrists don't
know the "answer"----perhaps there is no answer that they can give...
    Can any professional group claim to know the answer to all political

So even if Moreno did know that sociometry were the "cure" for all that
ails humanity, there is still work to be done to spread it, and it must
transcend the status of "therapy"---which implies (1) that it's medical;
(2) that doctors know how to cure it; (3) that only doctors know, and ALL
doctors know; (4) that only "sick" people need it, not "healthy"
people---and so on. But there are some parts of human life that transcend
the medical model.

Warmly, Adam

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 1:41 PM, <edwschreiber at> wrote:

> One might also ask "what is therapeutic" beyond medical applications?
> Like this:  "A truly therapeutic procedure cannot have less an objective
> than all of mankind.  But no adequate therapy can be prescribed as long as
> mankind is not a unity in some fashion and as long as its organization
> remains unknown."    That's outside the medical paradigm + it is truly
> therapeutic!  Don't you say?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Blatner
> Sent: Apr 2, 2018 4:05 PM
> To: asgpp listserve , Grouptalk , dramatherapylistserv at
> Subject: sick role or not
> I have grown increasingly aware of the number of drama therapists who work
> in more than the "sick role" (i.e., with people with "psychiatric
> diseases") context, but also with people NOT in the sick role. These are
> people in transition, perhaps, and they’ll use resources available to them
> ---- such as refugees. That is to say, many people in both psychodrama and
> drama therapy address both sick-role and non-sick-role people. That is to
> say, drama therapists (and psychodramatists)  work with people both in and
> beyond the patient role. Drama therapy for these people—and
> psychodrama---isn't really "therapy" so much as "liberation," or some other
> better word.
> This dual role, therapy and non-therapeutic “helping,” is in many contexts
> a critical difference. It points out that the methods that I call “enhanced
> simulations” work for non-“sick” adults! It also implies that the two field
> are not strictly “therapeutic,” but also socially facilitative—beyond any
> medical applications.
> Comments?
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