Surrender and spontaneity

Philip Carter phil.carter at
Tue Nov 20 21:20:53 PST 2018

It sounds like you have been assigned to the background, in the rhythm section. A steady shuffling of concentrated Rabbi feet and rubbing of cold hearts on the train of glory. With the occasional glorious sounding of chuckles released in the joy of voluntary suffering and liberation of being of service to those you love.

From: Bud Weiss <bud.weiss at>
Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2018 6:08 PM
To: Philip Carter <phil.carter at>
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Subject: Re: Surrender and spontaneity

Once again I am so moved and to some extent intimidated by the spontaneous poetic reaching creating that is being exchanged here. Not the thing itself as that is untouchable, rather the approach, the act, the act hunger amongst us that is calling us to this communion to form the vision of beauty we take for life. We are through our protagonist Phil's spontaneous need and willingness to rise up out of our chorus,   creating the psychodrama here in these absences holy holes tele graphed on our separate screens  across continents and oceans suspending time.  I'm so pleased to be here in the audience and willing to join the chorus or any role for which I may be chosen.
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On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 5:12 PM Philip Carter <phil.carter at<mailto:phil.carter at>> wrote:
Awesome Azure and Shu. We have bought in the Daoists.
I reckon 為無為 is probably exactly the thing i’m hovering around.
Here’s a favourite of mine:
活在当下, 自然无为

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Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2018 11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: Surrender and spontaneity

Spontaneity is “Being natural “.  In Chinese it is “Fa dze ran(法自然)”.
“Surrender” is “ letting be” or”non being”.  In Chinese it is “wei wu wei(為無為)

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On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Shu Gong <edg1996 at<mailto:edg1996 at>> wrote:

Dear Friends:

To me “surrender”  is the Daoist attitude of “non-being” , “letting-be”  In Chinese it is “Wei-Wu-Wei (為無為)”.

Warm regards,

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On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 9:23 AM, annehale <annehale at<mailto:annehale at>> wrote:

Thank you Phil, Walter and Shelley for enlivening the list serve with this topic. I hadn't ever used the word surrender before for that state within the cultural conserve when entertaining notions for altering a subject or process. I think of more allowing myself to follow my imagination into action, stepping into the warming up phase to explore the possibilities.

In "allowing" there is surrender, letting the bindings to should and have to, so they fall away and release energy to fuel the future.

Moreno was a futurist investing great energy in being in the moment. Surrender is a word worth keeping. Thanks.
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