Surrender and spontaneity

Adam Blatner adam at blatner.com
Tue Nov 20 21:36:00 PST 2018


Dear Phil and all, ha ha, ha! Yes, it's humorous, and we must remember
that. Warmly, Adam

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 9:24 PM Adam Blatner <adam at blatner.com> wrote:

> As that funny guy in Laugh-In on TV in the early 70s, Arnie ?, playing the
> German soldier, said, "Verrry Interesting." (How many people even know to
> whom I'm alluding?) Funny thing, getting old. Or not so funny. Or funny to
> me.
>     Anyway, the permutations of words, letting go, acceptance, going along
> with, giving up, ... many subtle variations that elude a simply "modern"
> world-view, speak to a subtle freshness of mind, opening, being in the here
> and now. Perhaps Moreno was pioneering a state of mind that the Chinese
> have, or one that is perceived by Westerners as "spontaneity."
>      Hello, All.  Warmly, Adam Blatner
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 9:08 PM Bud Weiss <bud.weiss at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Once again I am so moved and to some extent intimidated by the
>> spontaneous poetic reaching creating that is being exchanged here. Not the
>> thing itself as that is untouchable, rather the approach, the act, the act
>> hunger amongst us that is calling us to this communion to form the vision
>> of beauty we take for life. We are through our protagonist Phil's
>> spontaneous need and willingness to rise up out of our chorus,   creating
>> the psychodrama here in these a*bsences *holy holes tele graphed on our
>> separate screens  across continents and oceans suspending time.  I'm so
>> pleased to be here in the audience and willing to join the chorus or any
>> role for which I may be chosen.
>> Bud
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>> "Nurtured Heart Approach" *® http://www.childrenssuccessfoundation.com/
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>>
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 5:12 PM Philip Carter <phil.carter at aut.ac.nz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome Azure and Shu. We have bought in the Daoists.
>>>
>>> I reckon 為無為 is probably exactly the thing i’m hovering around.
>>>
>>> Here’s a favourite of mine:
>>>
>>> 活在当下, 自然无为
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* List <list-bounces at grouptalkweb.org> *On Behalf Of *Shu Gong
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 November 2018 11:05 AM
>>> *To:* list at grouptalkweb.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Surrender and spontaneity
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Spontaneity is “Being natural “.  In Chinese it is “Fa dze ran(法自然)”.
>>>
>>> “Surrender” is “ letting be” or”non being”.  In Chinese it is “wei wu
>>> wei(為無為)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 20, 2018, at 3:44 PM, Shu Gong <edg1996 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Friends:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To me “surrender”  is the Daoist attitude of “non-being” , “letting-be”
>>>  In Chinese it is “Wei-Wu-Wei (為無為)”.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>>
>>> Shu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 9:23 AM, annehale <annehale at cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Phil, Walter and Shelley for enlivening the list serve with
>>> this topic. I hadn't ever used the word surrender before for that state
>>> within the cultural conserve when entertaining notions for altering a
>>> subject or process. I think of more allowing myself to follow my
>>> imagination into action, stepping into the warming up phase to explore the
>>> possibilities.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In "allowing" there is surrender, letting the bindings to should and
>>> have to, so they fall away and release energy to fuel the future.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Moreno was a futurist investing great energy in being in the moment.
>>> Surrender is a word worth keeping. Thanks.
>>>
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