List Digest, Vol 176, Issue 7

Bill Wysong iqwysong at gmail.com
Sun Jun 27 21:50:29 UTC 2021


"Group Centered Psychodrama" sounds wrong to me because that's the primary
way Psychodrama works. So I'm in agreement with Ed. It seems to be named
that way to soften the impact of the word, "psychodrama".

Bill Wysong,* MA, LPC, EMDR II, TEP*
*Author of The Psychodrama Companion*
*Aspen Counseling Center*
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>    4. Re: Group Centered Psychodrama (M.K.  Hudgins)
>    5. Re: Group Centered Psychodrama (Thomas Treadwell)
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> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 03:23:24 +1200
> From: Walter Logeman <walter at psybernet.co.nz>
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> Hi all
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> I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered psychodrama?.
> That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group centered
> psychodrama?.
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> Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such dramas?
>
> Walter
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> From: David Moran <davidfmoran at comcast.net>
> To: Walter Logeman <walter at psybernet.co.nz>
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> Please reply I am interested in answers I?m just breaking into couples
> therapy
>
> Thanks Dave
>
> > On Jun 26, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Walter Logeman <walter at psybernet.co.nz>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hi all
> >
> > I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered
> psychodrama?. That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group
> centered psychodrama?.
> >
> > Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such dramas?
> >
> > Walter
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> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 19:02:37 +0000
> From: edwschreiber at earthlink.net
> To: David Moran <davidfmoran at comcast.net>, Walter Logeman
>         <walter at psybernet.co.nz>
> Cc: list at grouptalkweb.org
> Subject: Re: Group Centered Psychodrama
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> Isn't that we were trained in, to do?
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> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 17:54:45 -0400
> From: "M.K.  Hudgins" <drkatetsi at icloud.com>
> To: David Moran <davidfmoran at comcast.net>
> Cc: Walter Logeman <walter at psybernet.co.nz>, list at grouptalkweb.org
> Subject: Re: Group Centered Psychodrama
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> Nice to be back on group talk with my buds!  Miss Adam.
>
> I have a model of couples therapy that combines Imago n psychodrama
> interventions that seems to work quite well.
>
> They start out by picking an object to be their TSM Observing
> ego/compassionate witness to help them stay out of shaming or blaming
> themselves or their partner.
>
> Then we do Imago appreciations n reflections.
>
> Then they each choose a topic to work on n we set a clinical contract in
> which order.
>
> I use soliloquy, empty chair to the parental voices intruding while the
> other partner watches, role reversal etc.
>
> N then end with TSM meaning making to carry forward.
>
> We have also moved to a model we are calling simultaneous protagonists for
> our group work if you want to hear more.
>
> Happy to be connected again.
>
> Kate Hudgins, Ph,D, TEP
> Therapeutic Spiral International
> www.therapeuticspiralmodel.com
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, David Moran <davidfmoran at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Please reply I am interested in answers I?m just breaking into couples
> therapy
> >
> > Thanks Dave
> >
> >> On Jun 26, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Walter Logeman <walter at psybernet.co.nz>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Hi all
> >>
> >> I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered
> psychodrama?. That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group
> centered psychodrama?.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such
> dramas?
> >>
> >> Walter
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> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 17:55:59 -0400
> From: Thomas Treadwell <ttreadwe at grouptalkweb.org>
> To: Walter Logeman <walter at psybernet.co.nz>
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> Subject: Re: Group Centered Psychodrama
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> Walter
> It would help me if you described what you mean by Group Centered
> Psychodrama?
>
> For example, my research and clinical work focus on 'group centered
> experiential psychotherapy' including a dominant components of CBT &
> Psychodrama.
>
> I am interested in you inquiry and look forward to learning about your
> method.
>
> Tom
>
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 11:24 AM Walter Logeman <walter at psybernet.co.nz>
> wrote:
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> > Hi all
> >
> > I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered psychodrama?.
> > That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group centered
> > psychodrama?.
> >
> > Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such dramas?
> >
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> From: Lusijah Darrow LMFT <lusijah.mft at gmail.com>
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> Thanks Kate for sharing your ideas!
>
> > On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:55 PM, M.K. Hudgins <drkatetsi at icloud.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?Nice to be back on group talk with my buds!  Miss Adam.
> >
> > I have a model of couples therapy that combines Imago n psychodrama
> interventions that seems to work quite well.
> >
> > They start out by picking an object to be their TSM Observing
> ego/compassionate witness to help them stay out of shaming or blaming
> themselves or their partner.
> >
> > Then we do Imago appreciations n reflections.
> >
> > Then they each choose a topic to work on n we set a clinical contract in
> which order.
> >
> > I use soliloquy, empty chair to the parental voices intruding while the
> other partner watches, role reversal etc.
> >
> > N then end with TSM meaning making to carry forward.
> >
> > We have also moved to a model we are calling simultaneous protagonists
> for our group work if you want to hear more.
> >
> > Happy to be connected again.
> >
> > Kate Hudgins, Ph,D, TEP
> > Therapeutic Spiral International
> > www.therapeuticspiralmodel.com
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, David Moran <davidfmoran at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Please reply I am interested in answers I?m just breaking into couples
> therapy
> >>
> >> Thanks Dave
> >>
> >>>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Walter Logeman <walter at psybernet.co.nz>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Hi all
> >>>
> >>> I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered
> psychodrama?. That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group
> centered psychodrama?.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such
> dramas?
> >>>
> >>> Walter
> >>> --
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> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 19:37:06 -0400
> From: "M.K.  Hudgins" <drkatetsi at icloud.com>
> To: Lusijah Darrow LMFT <lusijah.mft at gmail.com>
> Cc: David Moran <davidfmoran at comcast.net>, list at grouptalkweb.org
> Subject: Re: Group Centered Psychodrama
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> Nice to connect w you!
>
> Kate Hudgins, Ph,D, TEP
> Therapeutic Spiral International
> www.therapeuticspiralmodel.com
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 26, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Lusijah Darrow LMFT <lusijah.mft at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Thanks Kate for sharing your ideas!
> >
> >> On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:55 PM, M.K. Hudgins <drkatetsi at icloud.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Nice to be back on group talk with my buds!  Miss Adam.
> >>
> >> I have a model of couples therapy that combines Imago n psychodrama
> interventions that seems to work quite well.
> >>
> >> They start out by picking an object to be their TSM Observing
> ego/compassionate witness to help them stay out of shaming or blaming
> themselves or their partner.
> >>
> >> Then we do Imago appreciations n reflections.
> >>
> >> Then they each choose a topic to work on n we set a clinical contract
> in which order.
> >>
> >> I use soliloquy, empty chair to the parental voices intruding while the
> other partner watches, role reversal etc.
> >>
> >> N then end with TSM meaning making to carry forward.
> >>
> >> We have also moved to a model we are calling simultaneous protagonists
> for our group work if you want to hear more.
> >>
> >> Happy to be connected again.
> >>
> >> Kate Hudgins, Ph,D, TEP
> >> Therapeutic Spiral International
> >> www.therapeuticspiralmodel.com
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, David Moran <davidfmoran at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Please reply I am interested in answers I?m just breaking into
> couples therapy
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Dave
> >>>
> >>>>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Walter Logeman <walter at psybernet.co.nz>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?Hi all
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered
> psychodrama?. That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group
> centered psychodrama?.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such
> dramas?
> >>>>
> >>>> Walter
> >>>> --
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