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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I love what you are describing here.
T</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>his Awakened or Awakening Force, or
Presence, is what spiritual directors tune into and guide from when
companioning others on their spiritual path. Many do this through a silent
contemplative process (a different kind of focus than
meditation). Currently, using expressive arts in spiritual direction
are a leading edge in the field. </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Both
in psychodrama and spiritual direction, one follows what I call the Divine
Flow. Spontaneity and Creativity are the outward manifestations of this
Divine Flow. Spiritual directors, who use what is called the contemplative
evocative method, follow the internal movement of this Divine Flow....and also
look to the movement toward or away from this Divine Flow in the patterns in
one's life. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Where spiritual directors, or other spiritual
practitioners, do not have skills is understanding what I call the movement
of God between us. Spiritual direction done in groups is an individual
process in a group setting, with feedback from others. Many spiritual
folks want to live and teach living our highest spiritual ideals in how to treat
others, yet don't have skills of how to get there when it comes to life in the
complexity of groups, and thus in healing society. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am very intrigued with what you are saying about
how the process of healing and connection to the Godhead impacts
then sociometric connections in groups. I know that is the core of
psychodrama, yet you have much to offer in illuminating greater
understanding on sociometry and sociatry. I know you are leading workshops
on this. I also encourage you to write about his extensively. I
would love to read about this and get more detail and understanding!
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Godspeed,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cynthia Gayle</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=edwschreiber@earthlink.net
href="mailto:edwschreiber@earthlink.net">Edward Schreiber</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:52
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Sociatric Practices of the
Method</DIV>
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style="FONT: 18px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=5>Edward Schreiber
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color=#000000 size=5><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT
style="FONT: 18px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=5>October 14, 2008
5:41:52 PM EDT</FONT></DIV>
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color=#000000 size=5><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT
style="FONT: 18px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=5>"Ivo Banaco" <<A
href="mailto:ibanaco@gmail.com">ibanaco@gmail.com</A>></FONT></DIV>
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color=#000000 size=5><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT
style="FONT: 18px Helvetica" face=Helvetica size=5><B>Re: Ken
Wilbur</B></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV>Dear
Ivo,</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>I<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I want to print this out and think about it, add
my thoughts to your work and organization
<DIV>we - you mostly - are really onto something</DIV>
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<DIV>much of what an apprentice from a school is doing with me now he
is</DIV>
<DIV>taking the sociatric theories of Moreno, what he saw when he looked
into the world</DIV>
<DIV>and he is making them into formulas</DIV>
<DIV>what is mind-blowing is that we are</DIV>
<DIV>seeing the entire theory, all of it, method, theory, philosphy,
techniques all of Moreno</DIV>
<DIV>encoded into 3 codes</DIV>
<DIV>in other words, each code is 1/3 of a whole theory</DIV>
<DIV>the 3 codes, which is the whole theory, are pictures he drew to
represent a whole part of the entire body of knowledge he left to
us</DIV>
<DIV>it is the interface and sequencing of the 3 coded pictures that is
the most important - each sequence is different and is a whole
other</DIV>
<DIV>way of applying the method</DIV>
<DIV>but here is the issue:</DIV>
<DIV>the method is fundamentally about unlocking the psyche to an
encounter directly with the Godhead</DIV>
<DIV>and then</DIV>
<DIV>stabilizing it within the being as an "autonomous healing
center"</DIV>
<DIV>and</DIV>
<DIV>then AS THIS HAPPENS this autonomous healing center emerges in a
group and reorganizes the sociometry in such a way it illuminates first
the sociodynamic effect to the group and then - it reorders the
sociodynamic effect into circles within the group, different ways of
forming circles, which returns members to a role within a circle of life
and returns life - to the circle.</DIV>
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<DIV>This is all happening in a group that I am working with at Lesley
University in which I am finding-feeling-seeing myself "being directed
by an Awakened or Awakening Force moving in me and directing me" which
is what Zerka has taught happens to her, and now I know directly what
this is about and now Lesley students are starting to feel this and
begin to form cognition (language, expression, creativity) around the
experience they are beginning to have. The most advanced students
are women of color.</DIV>
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<DIV>So, I welcome lots of conversation now and before I teach in
Portugal.</DIV>
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<DIV>Ed<BR>
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<DIV>On Oct 14, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Ivo Banaco wrote:</DIV><BR
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a challenge Ed!<BR><BR>This quote by Moreno is so deep that I have to add other elements of the Ken Wilber's integral theory to the quadrants, namely levels, lines, states and types. In all quadrants there are levels, lines, states and types.<BR><BR> <SPAN
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width=408></SPAN><BR> <BR>For example, in the upper left, levels could be the evolving self from birth (e.g. pre-personal, personal, trans-personal) and lines (e.g. the multiple intelligences of the human beings - see Howard Gardner – like the cognitive intelligence, spatial capabilities, morals, ethics and so on). Types are the horizontal differences, personality types, etc. States could be moods, but it is often used with reference the various types of spiritual experiences.<BR><BR>In the lower left we have the same 4 elements but with different characteristics, levels of cultural development since the birth of humanity, different types of cultures, and so.<BR><BR>For me when Moreno says "The discovery that human society has an actual, dynamic, central structure<BR>underlying and determining all its peripheral and formal groupings may one day<BR>be considered as the cornerstone of all social science." – I feel he found with his large vision these same 4 quadrants, this same dynamic, diversity, that is shared by all human beings at a deeper level. I see the point from which the 4 quadrant arrows develop as the big bang or the ever present origin from where we all were born.<BR><BR>"This central structure - once it has been identified - is either found or discernible in every form of human<BR>society, from the most primitive to the most civilized." – the levels in all quadrants.<BR><BR>"It exerts a determining influence upon every sphere in which the factor of human interrelations is an active agent - in economics, biology, social pathology, politics, government and similar spheres of social action." – All quadrants, all levels, all lines, all states, all types.<BR><BR>
<DIV>Best wishes,<BR>
<DIV>Ivo
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Edward
Schreiber <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:edwschreiber@earthlink.net">edwschreiber@earthlink.net</A>></SPAN>
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would you work with this quote, using the 4 Quadrants?<BR><BR>The
discovery that human society has an actual, dynamic, central
structure<BR>underlying and determining all its peripheral and
formal groupings may one day<BR>be considered as the cornerstone of
all social science. This central structure -<BR>once it has
been identified - is either found or discernible in every form of
human<BR>society, from the most primitive to the most civilized: it
is the genesis of every type<BR>of society. In addition, it
exerts a determining influence upon every sphere in which<BR>the
factor of human interrelations is an active agent - in economics,
biology, social<BR>pathology, politics, government and similar
spheres of social action.<BR><BR>JL Moreno<BR><BR>How would we
"deconstruct" this quote and move it into the 4 quadrants? I
would be<BR>interested in working together on
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