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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dear Michael, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> Yiddish is a creole
language of northern-European Jewry, Lithuania, Poland, Russia, Hungary,
Ukraine, Some Germany and Austria..It is based about 69% on 16th century High
German, 18% Hebrew, and a variable mixture of Slavic, French, and
other languages. It was used by women and the general population aside from
actual liturgy---classical Hebrew was used for prayers at home or in the
synagogue, learning Hebrew to study Talmud in the kheder (elementary school) or
Yeshiva (high school for the more scholarly and talented). Many--probably
most---boys went off to work in their teens. Yiddish was written using the
Hebrew alphabet in a phonetic fashion. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> Ladino is like that,
but derives from the common language spoken by the large population of Jews in
Spain in the 14th and 15th century. In 1492, not only did Columbus sail the
ocean blue, but Ferdinand and Isabella, rabid Catholics, expelled the Jews from
Spain, forcing them to sell everything for near nothing, to find ships to carry
them---mainly into various ports in the Ottoman Empire. Some were enslaved. It
was a terrible tragedy. Yet communities were re-established in the emerging
communities of Amsterdam, Turkey, Italy, Palestine, Algeria, and elsewhere. Many
of these folks continued to speak in the 15th century dialect of Castilian
Spain, with (as with Yiddish), an admixture of Hebrew and other local variants.
So Ladino was for Southern Europe what Yiddish was for North-East-Central
Europe. It, too, when written, used a Hebrew alphabet. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> There were other variants like
this---regional types of Arabic written again in Hebrew script by the
communities living throughout the Arabic world. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> Your great-grandfather?
That would put him in the general era of what? Moreno in
Vienna? In spite of the active Jewish community that was rising in the
professions, etc., as in Romania, there was also a great deal of intense
anti-semitism in all those countries. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial> Did your grandparents
assimilate, convert, what's the story with you? Warmly, Adam
</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=Michael.Wieser@uni-klu.ac.at
href="mailto:Michael.Wieser@uni-klu.ac.at">Michael Wieser</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=list@grouptalkweb.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:24
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Moreno History (sort
of)</DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Adam and others,</DIV>
<DIV>could someone explain to me the term "Ladino-speaking Jews". My
grand-grandfather spoke "Ladinisch" and moved from a northern part of Italy.
Some told me that Sephardic Jews spoke the same but I still wonder if it
is the same.</DIV>
<DIV>Warmly</DIV>
<DIV>Michael</DIV>
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<DIV>PS: J.L. moved around 1895 to Vienna.</DIV>
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