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<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid #6868cc; margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br />To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br />http://grouptalkweb.org/mailman/listinfo/list_grouptalkweb.org<br />or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br />list-request@grouptalkweb.org<br /><br />You can reach the person managing the list at<br />list-owner@grouptalkweb.org<br /><br />When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br />than "Re: Contents of List digest..."<br /><br /><br />Today's Topics:<br /><br />1. re-visioning psychodrama 2 (Adam Blatner)<br />2. job in Wernersville, PA (HV Psychodrama)<br />3. comments on re-visioning psychodrama (Adam Blatner)<br />4. Re: comments on re-visioning psychodrama (Connie Miller)<br /><br /><br />----------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />Message: 1<br />Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:03:03 -0500<br />From: "Adam Blatner" <br /
>Subject: re-visioning psychodrama 2<br />To: <br />Cc: iagp-psychodrama@yahoogroups.com<br />Message-ID: <br />Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br /><br />My thought has been how to get the ideas of Moreno into the greatest number of hands. The first point is that psychodrama was only one---albeit the best known---of his many interests. <br />I think that we should try to get Moreno's theological and philosophical ideas out there, without having to require that anyone who learns about these ideas has to attend psychodrama workshops.<br />Of course there are areas of cross-over and complementarity, but that should be elective, not mandatory.<br /><br />Ditto for his social psychological ideas. Indeed, we might attract a good many more people if they came in a door other than psychodrama, which may be daunting, threatening to them, because to direct groups or even act in groups requires levels of self-disclosure and performance that many people find overwhelming
ly threatening. <br />I can imagine people learning a certain amount of sociometry and role theory in a more didactic fashion, with a few gentle, and well-paced experiential exercises to make it more of a participatory learning process... yet no psychodrama per se. (They can learn that this edge is available, but not required.)<br /><br />Similarly, some may come in the doors of spontaneity training, playback theatre, improvisational drama, and the like.<br /><br />Psychodramatic methods may be used as action methods and sociodrama in education at most levels (if not all levels), adapted, and yet no one would be doing classical psychodrama. I mean here to appeal to teachers who want to learn about social intelligence and then to be empowered in part to some day teach it <br />This kind of education can also be adapted for business people, executives, management trainees, in men's or women's consciousness-raising workshops and so forth. <br /><br />In fact, many of our associ
ates and members are already applying psychodrama and Morenian ideas beyond the context of therapy or requiring that participants imagine themselves in the sick role, needding help. So if this is so, might it change the way we market ourselves, what kinds of introductory programs we offer? Sincerely, Adam Blatner<br />-------------- next part --------------<br />An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br />URL: <br /><br />------------------------------<br /><br />Message: 2<br />Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:28:40 -0400<br />From: "HV Psychodrama" <br />Subject: job in Wernersville, PA<br />To: <br />Message-ID: <60250748FA0A495E853427E72B021262@Rebecca2><br />Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br /><br />CARON TREATMENT CENTERS, internationally recognized for excellence in chemical dependency treatment, is seeking the following:<br /><br /><br /><br />Therapist<br /><br /><br />Will facilitate experiential group therapy in Caron's 5-day residential Breakthrough pr
ogram. Requirements include a Bachelor's degree in Psychology or a related discipline required; Master's degree preferred. A minimum of one year experience facilitating experiential therapy preferred. Certified Experiential Therapist (CET) Certification through the American Society of Experiential Therapists (ASET) preferred.<br /><br /><br /><br />Preferred method of resume submission is electronically via ://www.caron.org under the career/training link. Or send to: Caron Treatment Centers, Attn: Recruiter, Galen Hall Road, PO Box 150, Wernersville, PA 19565. Fax: 610-678-8583. Email: mailto:recruiter@caron.org<br /><br />www.caron.org<br /><br /><br /><br />Hudson Valley Psychodrama Institute<br />68 DuBois Road <br />New Paltz, NY 12561<br /><br />Ph: (845) 255 7502 <br />E-mail: hvpi@hvc.rr.com<br />Visit us at our website: http://www.hvpi.net<br />-------------- next part --------------<br />An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br />URL: <br /><br />----------------------
--------<br /><br />Message: 3<br />Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:13:50 -0500<br />From: "Adam Blatner" <br />Subject: comments on re-visioning psychodrama<br />To: <br />Message-ID: <8BA6215469174A46BB5546C0D3050F58@desktop><br />Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br /><br />Here's my response to Peter Howie's response from Australia:<br />Peter Howie wrote October 28, 2009 You are spot on Adam. <br /><br />We (ANZPA conference in January? ) are developing a program for 2010 which only uses the word "psychodrama" as part of the subtext.<br />ab: what do you say as your theme or text?<br /><br />PH I think it is the job of those who want it, to translate this material into frameworks of others. That capacity is one of our standards for a practitioner over here. Is it the same in the US? <br />AB: I don't think so, specifically, but it well may be implied. What do any of those who are on the Board of Examiners think?<br /><br />PH .On another note - I think you
are wrong supposing that didactic methods are the way to go. Psychodramatic methods - specifically concretisation, modelling, role reversal, sociometry and realtionship - are all applicable in a wide variety of situation when working with mental models and other ideas. I spend most of my time in a workshop crafting processes that apply what I am saying in one form or another. I call all this stuff a technology of creativity.<br />AB: I sort of agree. I think though that some discussion, low grade group participation, might serve as an initial warm-up, just long enough for them to feel safe and oriented, and then slide into experiential stuff gradually. I think we agree. The point is how to introduce the action approaches so they don't feel too threatening, and that varies for group. <br />(I do square dancing, and visiting callers do their thing at a pace and intensity so that about one out of six squares break down, can't follow. If they are breaking down three out of six,
they scale back to a slower pace or more familiar or less demanding calls; if they're not breaking down 1/6, they're too elementary for the group and they ramp up a notch and then observe the next "tip" (or set of calls). They calibrate their difficulty to fit the group.)<br /><br />PH Even in the the Morenian learning paradigm spontaneity is crucial for developing creativity. I don't know anyone apart from the Anthony Robins and other charismatic spruikers of this world that hold attention for long. I mean, I can't continuously listen to world famous musicians for all that long let along complex ideas. We have all spent way to long in our respective education systems and all this has done is have us develop a range of barely functional student roles when in didactic learning situations. Dramatic methods bring livliness into group learning settings. And lots more could be done - apart from the "Talk to the person next to you?". Most of us will be switched off after about 20
minutes of talk or putting effort into remaining switched on. <br />AB: Agree. I want to see more experiential stuff in ordinary education at every level. <br /><br />Warmly, Adam<br /><br />responding to adam's previous email:<br /><br />My thought has been how to get the ideas of Moreno into the greatest number of hands. The first point is that psychodrama was only one---albeit the best known---of his many interests.<br />I think that we should try to get Moreno's theological and philosophical ideas out there, without having to require that anyone who learns about these ideas has to attend psychodrama workshops.<br />Of course there are areas of cross-over and complementarity, but that should be elective, not mandatory.<br /><br />Ditto for his social psychological ideas. Indeed, we might attract a good many more people if they came in a door other than psychodrama, which may be daunting, threatening to them, because to direct groups or even act in groups requires levels o
f self-disclosure and performance that many people find overwhelmingly threatening.<br /><br />I can imagine people learning a certain amount of sociometry and role theory in a more didactic fashion, with a few gentle, and well-paced experiential exercises to make it more of a participatory learning process... yet no psychodrama per se. (They can learn that this edge is available, but not required.)<br /><br />Similarly, some may come in the doors of spontaneity training, playback theatre, improvisational drama, and the like.<br /><br />Psychodramatic methods may be used as action methods and sociodrama in education at most levels (if not all levels), adapted, and yet no one would be doing classical psychodrama. I mean here to appeal to teachers who want to learn about social intelligence and then to be empowered in part to some day teach it<br /><br />This kind of education can also be adapted for business people, executives, management trainees, in men's or women's conscio
usness-raising workshops and so forth.<br /><br />In fact, many of our associates and members are already applying psychodrama and Morenian ideas beyond the context of therapy or requiring that participants imagine themselves in the sick role, needding help. So if this is so, might it change the way we market ourselves, what kinds of introductory programs we offer? Sincerely, Adam Blatner<br />-------------- next part --------------<br />An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br />URL: <br /><br />------------------------------<br /><br />Message: 4<br />Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:36:43 +0000<br />From: "Connie Miller" <br />Subject: Re: comments on re-visioning psychodrama<br />To: "Adam Blatner" , list@grouptalkweb.org<br />Message-ID: <br />Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br /><br />Thank you Adam and Peter. <br /><br />I have been doing this with Souldrama for 10 years now. The process of Souldrama is a transpersonal one that moves people through levels of grow
th and spiritual development so that they can access their spiritual intelligence. Each level builds up more love and connection within the group and more self love. One of the tools employed is psychodrama, and trainees must learn the methods of psychodrama and sociometry ( at least 200 hours). Morenos works are mentioned frequently. They also need 250 hours of Souldrama which for right now I teach. My trainees can use their own creativity within the structure of the stages of development such as art therapy, yoga, etc. <br />Souldrama has spread quickly throughout the world and has generated interest in the methods of psychodrama as many people want to access their spiritual intelligence.The process moves us through our rational and emotional intelligence and on to our spiritual intelligence while removing the blocks that keep us stuck. <br />I am off to Indonesia today to present Soiuldrama to the international conference of pastoral counselors in Indonesia for three days
and then at the university there where they have invited all the trauma workers, health care workers and psychologists from the area to learn Souldrama. - over 500 to count now. I have put out many requests for help from our community as I do need people who will teach psychodrama to those interested in Souldrama. I developed it to give psychodrama structure and to offer a more gentle name for the process. I also need trainees to help teach this process. Blessings Connie<br />Connie Miller TEP, LPC. NCC <br />http://www.souldrama.com/ <br />The International Institute of Souldrama <br />620 Shore Rd <br />Spring Lake Heights <br />NJ 07762 USA <br /><br />1-800-821-9919 <br /><br />-----Original Message-----<br />From: Adam Blatner [mailto:ablatner@verizon.net]<br />Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:13 PM<br />To: list@grouptalkweb.org<br />Subject: comments on re-visioning psychodrama<br /><br />Here's my response to Peter Howie's response from Australia:<br />Peter How
ie wrote October 28, 2009 You are spot on Adam. <br /><br />We (ANZPA conference in January? ) are developing a program for 2010 which only uses the word "psychodrama" as part of the subtext.<br />ab: what do you say as your theme or text?<br /><br />PH I think it is the job of those who want it, to translate this material into frameworks of others. That capacity is one of our standards for a practitioner over here. Is it the same in the US? <br />AB: I don't think so, specifically, but it well may be implied. What do any of those who are on the Board of Examiners think?<br /><br />PH .On another note - I think you are wrong supposing that didactic methods are the way to go. Psychodramatic methods - specifically concretisation, modelling, role reversal, sociometry and realtionship - are all applicable in a wide variety of situation when working with mental models and other ideas. I spend most of my time in a workshop crafting processes that apply what I am saying in one form
or another. I call all this stuff a technology of creativity.<br />AB: I sort of agree. I think though that some discussion, low grade group participation, might serve as an initial warm-up, just long enough for them to feel safe and oriented, and then slide into experiential stuff gradually. I think we agree. The point is how to introduce the action approaches so they don't feel too threatening, and that varies for group. <br />(I do square dancing, and visiting callers do their thing at a pace and intensity so that about one out of six squares break down, can't follow. If they are breaking down three out of six, they scale back to a slower pace or more familiar or less demanding calls; if they're not breaking down 1/6, they're too elementary for the group and they ramp up a notch and then observe the next "tip" (or set of calls). They calibrate their difficulty to fit the group.)<br /><br />PH Even in the the Morenian learning paradigm spontaneity is crucial for developin
g creativity. I don't know anyone apart from the Anthony Robins and other charismatic spruikers of this world that hold attention for long. I mean, I can't continuously listen to world famous musicians for all that long let along complex ideas. We have all spent way to long in our respective education systems and all this has done is have us develop a range of barely functional student roles when in didactic learning situations. Dramatic methods bring livliness into group learning settings. And lots more could be done - apart from the "Talk to the person next to you?". Most of us will be switched off after about 20 minutes of talk or putting effort into remaining switched on. <br />AB: Agree. I want to see more experiential stuff in ordinary education at every level. <br /><br />Warmly, Adam<br /><br />responding to adam's previous email:<br /><br />My thought has been how to get the ideas of Moreno into the greatest number of hands. The first point is that psychodrama was o
nly one---albeit the best known---of his many interests.<br />I think that we should try to get Moreno's theological and philosophical ideas out there, without having to require that anyone who learns about these ideas has to attend psychodrama workshops.<br />Of course there are areas of cross-over and complementarity, but that should be elective, not mandatory.<br /><br />Ditto for his social psychological ideas. Indeed, we might attract a good many more people if they came in a door other than psychodrama, which may be daunting, threatening to them, because to direct groups or even act in groups requires levels of self-disclosure and performance that many people find overwhelmingly threatening.<br /><br />I can imagine people learning a certain amount of sociometry and role theory in a more didactic fashion, with a few gentle, and well-paced experiential exercises to make it more of a participatory learning process... yet no psychodrama per se. (They can learn that this e
dge is available, but not required.)<br /><br />Similarly, some may come in the doors of spontaneity training, playback theatre, improvisational drama, and the like.<br /><br />Psychodramatic methods may be used as action methods and sociodrama in education at most levels (if not all levels), adapted, and yet no one would be doing classical psychodrama. I mean here to appeal to teachers who want to learn about social intelligence and then to be empowered in part to some day teach it<br /><br />This kind of education can also be adapted for business people, executives, management trainees, in men's or women's consciousness-raising workshops and so forth.<br /><br />In fact, many of our associates and members are already applying psychodrama and Morenian ideas beyond the context of therapy or requiring that participants imagine themselves in the sick role, needding help. So if this is so, might it change the way we market ourselves, what kinds of introductory programs we offer
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