<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">"Group Centered Psychodrama" sounds wrong to me because that's the primary way Psychodrama works. So I'm in agreement with Ed. It seems to be named that way to soften the impact of the word, "psychodrama".</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><font color="#38761d" face="georgia, serif"><font style="font-weight:bold"><span></span><span></span>Bill Wysong,</font><b> MA, LPC, EMDR II, TEP</b></font></div><div><font color="#38761d" face="georgia, serif"><b>Author of <i>The Psychodrama Companion</i></b></font></div><div><font color="#38761d" face="georgia, serif"><b>Aspen Counseling Center</b></font></div><div><b style="color:rgb(56,118,29)"><font face="georgia, serif">276 Crystal Park Road</font></b></div><div><font face="georgia, serif"><b style="color:rgb(56,118,29)">Manitou Springs, CO 80829</b><br></font></div><div><b style="color:rgb(56,118,29)"><font face="georgia, serif">(719) 360-0102</font></b></div><div><b style="color:rgb(56,118,29)"><font face="georgia, serif"><br></font></b></div><div><font color="#38761d" face="georgia, serif"><b><a href="http://www.AspenCounseling.com" target="_blank">www.AspenCounseling.com</a></b></font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif"><a href="mailto:iqwysong@gmail.com" target="_blank"><font color="#38761d"><b>iqwysong@gmail.com</b></font></a><br></font></div><div><font color="#38761d" face="georgia, serif"><b><a href="http://www.PsychodramaCompanion.blogspot.com" target="_blank">www.PsychodramaCompanion.blogspot.com</a></b></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 6:00 AM <<a href="mailto:list-request@grouptalkweb.org">list-request@grouptalkweb.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send List mailing list submissions to<br>
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4. Re: Group Centered Psychodrama (M.K. Hudgins)<br>
5. Re: Group Centered Psychodrama (Thomas Treadwell)<br>
6. Re: Group Centered Psychodrama (Lusijah Darrow LMFT)<br>
7. Re: Group Centered Psychodrama (M.K. Hudgins)<br>
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Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2021 03:23:24 +1200<br>
From: Walter Logeman <<a href="mailto:walter@psybernet.co.nz" target="_blank">walter@psybernet.co.nz</a>><br>
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Hi all<br>
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I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered psychodrama?.<br>
That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group centered<br>
psychodrama?.<br>
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Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such dramas?<br>
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 14:39:03 -0400<br>
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Please reply I am interested in answers I?m just breaking into couples therapy <br>
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Thanks Dave<br>
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> On Jun 26, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Walter Logeman <<a href="mailto:walter@psybernet.co.nz" target="_blank">walter@psybernet.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
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> ?Hi all <br>
> <br>
> I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered psychodrama?. That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group centered psychodrama?. <br>
> <br>
> Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such dramas?<br>
> <br>
> Walter <br>
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 19:02:37 +0000<br>
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Isn't that we were trained in, to do?<br>
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 17:54:45 -0400<br>
From: "M.K. Hudgins" <<a href="mailto:drkatetsi@icloud.com" target="_blank">drkatetsi@icloud.com</a>><br>
To: David Moran <<a href="mailto:davidfmoran@comcast.net" target="_blank">davidfmoran@comcast.net</a>><br>
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Nice to be back on group talk with my buds! Miss Adam. <br>
<br>
I have a model of couples therapy that combines Imago n psychodrama interventions that seems to work quite well. <br>
<br>
They start out by picking an object to be their TSM Observing ego/compassionate witness to help them stay out of shaming or blaming themselves or their partner. <br>
<br>
Then we do Imago appreciations n reflections. <br>
<br>
Then they each choose a topic to work on n we set a clinical contract in which order. <br>
<br>
I use soliloquy, empty chair to the parental voices intruding while the other partner watches, role reversal etc. <br>
<br>
N then end with TSM meaning making to carry forward. <br>
<br>
We have also moved to a model we are calling simultaneous protagonists for our group work if you want to hear more. <br>
<br>
Happy to be connected again. <br>
<br>
Kate Hudgins, Ph,D, TEP<br>
Therapeutic Spiral International<br>
<a href="http://www.therapeuticspiralmodel.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.therapeuticspiralmodel.com</a><br>
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> On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, David Moran <<a href="mailto:davidfmoran@comcast.net" target="_blank">davidfmoran@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> ?Please reply I am interested in answers I?m just breaking into couples therapy <br>
> <br>
> Thanks Dave<br>
> <br>
>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Walter Logeman <<a href="mailto:walter@psybernet.co.nz" target="_blank">walter@psybernet.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> ?Hi all <br>
>> <br>
>> I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered psychodrama?. That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group centered psychodrama?. <br>
>> <br>
>> Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such dramas?<br>
>> <br>
>> Walter <br>
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 17:55:59 -0400<br>
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Walter<br>
It would help me if you described what you mean by Group Centered<br>
Psychodrama?<br>
<br>
For example, my research and clinical work focus on 'group centered<br>
experiential psychotherapy' including a dominant components of CBT &<br>
Psychodrama.<br>
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I am interested in you inquiry and look forward to learning about your<br>
method.<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
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> Hi all<br>
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> I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered psychodrama?.<br>
> That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group centered<br>
> psychodrama?.<br>
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> Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such dramas?<br>
><br>
> Walter<br>
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 16:28:02 -0700<br>
From: Lusijah Darrow LMFT <<a href="mailto:lusijah.mft@gmail.com" target="_blank">lusijah.mft@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "M.K. Hudgins" <<a href="mailto:drkatetsi@icloud.com" target="_blank">drkatetsi@icloud.com</a>><br>
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Thanks Kate for sharing your ideas!<br>
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> On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:55 PM, M.K. Hudgins <<a href="mailto:drkatetsi@icloud.com" target="_blank">drkatetsi@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> ?Nice to be back on group talk with my buds! Miss Adam. <br>
> <br>
> I have a model of couples therapy that combines Imago n psychodrama interventions that seems to work quite well. <br>
> <br>
> They start out by picking an object to be their TSM Observing ego/compassionate witness to help them stay out of shaming or blaming themselves or their partner. <br>
> <br>
> Then we do Imago appreciations n reflections. <br>
> <br>
> Then they each choose a topic to work on n we set a clinical contract in which order. <br>
> <br>
> I use soliloquy, empty chair to the parental voices intruding while the other partner watches, role reversal etc. <br>
> <br>
> N then end with TSM meaning making to carry forward. <br>
> <br>
> We have also moved to a model we are calling simultaneous protagonists for our group work if you want to hear more. <br>
> <br>
> Happy to be connected again. <br>
> <br>
> Kate Hudgins, Ph,D, TEP<br>
> Therapeutic Spiral International<br>
> <a href="http://www.therapeuticspiralmodel.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.therapeuticspiralmodel.com</a><br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
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>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, David Moran <<a href="mailto:davidfmoran@comcast.net" target="_blank">davidfmoran@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> ?Please reply I am interested in answers I?m just breaking into couples therapy <br>
>> <br>
>> Thanks Dave<br>
>> <br>
>>>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Walter Logeman <<a href="mailto:walter@psybernet.co.nz" target="_blank">walter@psybernet.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> ?Hi all <br>
>>> <br>
>>> I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered psychodrama?. That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group centered psychodrama?. <br>
>>> <br>
>>> Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such dramas?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Walter <br>
>>> -- <br>
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2021 19:37:06 -0400<br>
From: "M.K. Hudgins" <<a href="mailto:drkatetsi@icloud.com" target="_blank">drkatetsi@icloud.com</a>><br>
To: Lusijah Darrow LMFT <<a href="mailto:lusijah.mft@gmail.com" target="_blank">lusijah.mft@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: David Moran <<a href="mailto:davidfmoran@comcast.net" target="_blank">davidfmoran@comcast.net</a>>, <a href="mailto:list@grouptalkweb.org" target="_blank">list@grouptalkweb.org</a><br>
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Nice to connect w you! <br>
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Kate Hudgins, Ph,D, TEP<br>
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> On Jun 26, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Lusijah Darrow LMFT <<a href="mailto:lusijah.mft@gmail.com" target="_blank">lusijah.mft@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> ?Thanks Kate for sharing your ideas!<br>
> <br>
>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:55 PM, M.K. Hudgins <<a href="mailto:drkatetsi@icloud.com" target="_blank">drkatetsi@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> ?Nice to be back on group talk with my buds! Miss Adam.<br>
>> <br>
>> I have a model of couples therapy that combines Imago n psychodrama interventions that seems to work quite well. <br>
>> <br>
>> They start out by picking an object to be their TSM Observing ego/compassionate witness to help them stay out of shaming or blaming themselves or their partner. <br>
>> <br>
>> Then we do Imago appreciations n reflections. <br>
>> <br>
>> Then they each choose a topic to work on n we set a clinical contract in which order. <br>
>> <br>
>> I use soliloquy, empty chair to the parental voices intruding while the other partner watches, role reversal etc. <br>
>> <br>
>> N then end with TSM meaning making to carry forward. <br>
>> <br>
>> We have also moved to a model we are calling simultaneous protagonists for our group work if you want to hear more. <br>
>> <br>
>> Happy to be connected again. <br>
>> <br>
>> Kate Hudgins, Ph,D, TEP<br>
>> Therapeutic Spiral International<br>
>> <a href="http://www.therapeuticspiralmodel.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.therapeuticspiralmodel.com</a><br>
>> <br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>> <br>
>>>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, David Moran <<a href="mailto:davidfmoran@comcast.net" target="_blank">davidfmoran@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> ?Please reply I am interested in answers I?m just breaking into couples therapy <br>
>>> <br>
>>> Thanks Dave<br>
>>> <br>
>>>>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Walter Logeman <<a href="mailto:walter@psybernet.co.nz" target="_blank">walter@psybernet.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> ?Hi all <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I'm writing an article on what I'm calling ?couple centered psychodrama?. That got me thinking that we already use the term ?group centered psychodrama?. <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such dramas?<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Walter <br>
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