<div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Thanks for the wonderful replies!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I love hearing about couple therapy and psychodrama. I have developed Psychodramatic Couple Therapy Training (PCT) and it is thoroughly Psychodrama in that it uses all the psychodramatic principles. I sue sociodrama as a training tool so trainees get a deep experience working with a “sociodramatic couple”. When I say it is psychodrama I mean it, enriched by Imago, Hedy Schleifer, EFT, NVC and some solution focused ideas (got that from you Bud). Often I use psychodramatic language for things I learn from other modalities, in that process the work is deepened. For example, the "talker/sender/host” becomes protagonist and the other partner the auxiliary, that brings in riches. I may not use the terms with the couple. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'm limiting the training to the consulting room at present. Anything more anyone knows in detail about what Moreno and Zerka did with couples would be great. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>❋ <br></div><div><br></div><div>The term "group centered" is used in Australia and New Zealand with respect to warm-up and also with respect to the drama itself. I recall some teaching from Max Clayton when the group was under the misapprehension that sociodrama was always group centered i.e. without a specific protagonist, and psychodrama always had a protagonist. He then demonstrated a protagonist centred sociodrama, i.e. one based around the social roles in a person's work situation. On rare occasions I have seen a group centered psychodrama, in that sense, for example one that began as a sociogram. An isolate emerges and the group then works to include that person.</div><div><br></div><div>❋ <br></div><div><br></div><div>I am currently working with a personal development group that includes a couple. I've been in many groups where the "third entity" of the relationship remains invisible. Or the relationship is worked with in an individualistic way. I have seen this go not so well. One partner, against my best intentions, creates a drama where the other feels attacked. The sharing is tricky, as the principle that the audience share from their personal experience becomes distorted when the other partner's personal experience is included in the drama. It can become hard for the protagonist to accept the sharing from their partner.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm successfully avoiding these difficulties. One is by producing dramas with both on the stage followed by sharing with both partners on the stage. Sharing can also be to the "relationship". I've also included group members to "create a group sculpture of the relationship as you intuit it", the couple then watch and give instructions to maximise certain aspects.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I have called these dramas "relationship centered psychodrama" using the word "centered" in the tradition I describe above.</div><div><br></div><div>This made me curious if there was any precedent for this use of the word in past practice or the literature.</div><div><br></div><div>Warm wishes, Walter <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 at 9:56 AM, Thomas Treadwell <<a href="mailto:ttreadwe@grouptalkweb.org" target="_blank">ttreadwe@grouptalkweb.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Walter</div><div>It would help me if you described what you mean by Group Centered Psychodrama? <br></div><div><br></div><div>For example, my research and clinical work focus on 'group centered experiential psychotherapy' including a dominant components of CBT & Psychodrama. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I am interested in you inquiry and look forward to learning about your method.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 11:24 AM Walter Logeman <<a href="mailto:walter@psybernet.co.nz" target="_blank">walter@psybernet.co.nz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi all <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'm writing an article on what I'm calling “couple centered psychodrama”. That got me thinking that we already use the term “group centered psychodrama”. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Does anyone know of references or have ideas about producing such dramas?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Walter </div>-- <br><div dir="ltr">Sent from Gmail Mobile</div>
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