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Moreno
peter at moreno.com.au
Sat Sep 18 06:17:06 UTC 2021
I’ve a copy of the first WSS edition - not digitised though and at the office - I’ll have a look on Monday.
Dr Peter C Howie
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> On 18 Sep 2021, at 4:14 pm, Moreno <peter at moreno.com.au> wrote:
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> Dr Peter C Howie
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>> On 18 Sep 2021, at 8:48 am, cartmel at alphalink.com.au wrote:
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>> Hi Rollo – Walter – Peter - Group
>> regarding the 1940 article quote …...
>> Objectification of himself by the patient can also be accomplished by means of the 'reversal'
>> technique.
>> The patient is asked to place himself in the role of someone in his social atom, and an
>> auxiliary ego--or the actual person whom the patient is to portray, if possible--is placed In the role
>> of the
>> patient.
>> The first issue at stake here is the one of - ‘near’ and ‘far’ sociometry - JLM wrestled with and never
>> got to
>> resolve.
>> But, as much as I can discern, your dialogue to date relates to another and deeper issue – that of
>> the
>> place of the ‘individual’ in the modern mind where the individual is terrorized by the group.
>> A new reformulation of Aristotle’s dialectic of – the one versus the many. We see this with Trump
>> trying to
>> make the ONE usa great again by activating the unrulily mob. Trump can not see the
>> irony of his mob terrorizing the one speaker of the house.
>>
>> Here is a 2006 quote from Boltanski.
>> F. A. Hayek's Scientism and the Study of Society offers a particularly trenchant formulation of these
>> critiques. The author contrasts "method-ological individualism" with a "scientistic approach
>> treating as facts those collectives which are no more than popular generalizations" --or, as he puts it
>> later
>> on, "vague popular theories" (1952, 38, 54). To dismantle the totalist (collectivist)
>> prejudice, he borrows the terms in which Charles Vic-tor Langlois and Charles Seignobos
>> formulated their
>> critique of sociology: "[I]n the imagination as in direct observation, [collective acts]
>> always re-duce to a sum of individual actions. The 'social fact,' as recognized by certain sociologists,
>> is a
>> philosophical construction, not a historical fact" (210-11 n. 29).
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>> This is the issue for the auxiliary and protagonist reversing roles. Are they reversing [inverting
>> identity]
>> with a ‘sociological identity’ or a ‘phenomenon standing’ before them? A specific or a
>> generalization? A near or far ‘thing’? A social construct conserve or an emergent person?
>> Hope this assists.
>> Brendan Cartmel
>> Integral Socionomy
>> Mob:0427560724
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